OldMedUsers current grow and plans

OldMedUser

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Ah I'm a little south of you around gp area. also used to drive truck but just a small bed to stand 400s small world.
We're going to GP Wednesday so the wife can see her eye doctor about her glaucoma. I'll be stopping by the hydro store to pick up a few things and see how Big Al and Lee are doing. Going to hit the electrical supply too and see what they may have in the way of a 600W switchable ballast cheap. Got a bulb from my buddy but nothing to run it with.

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whitebb2727

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They should work fine. I used to be a chemist at a hazardous waste disposal facility in the Vancouver area and got all sorts of lab chemicals in for disposal. Some made their way home with me and a big jar of that Drierite was one of them. Lots of glassware too that they tossed rather than clean out but with all the crap at my disposal I'd clean it at work.

As it gets moist it turns pink and then can be re-dried in the oven to turn it blue again for reuse. Even rice can be used to dry out stuff. Microwave it for a while or dry well in the oven, let it cool and keep in a sealed jar. Won't change colour but absorbs moisture really well. They sell those big packs to keep in your RV when parked to keep moisture down that would work too.

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Lol. Ill just say I handled hazardous materials in the military. The good stuff gets phase out. It ends up in peoples sheds.
 

OldMedUser

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Decided to drag my CO2 tank downstairs a couple days ago to dose the plants with it and they seem to love it!

Set my heat and RH fan controller up higher so the temps can get up to almost 90F before the exhaust fan kicks in and the gas has time to be used by the plants. They really seem to look more vibrant and happy after two days of it so I'm going down ten minutes before the light come on and giving the room a good blast. Wish I had something to read the CO2 levels but it's got to be way up over atmospheric levels with a good dose.

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Tried a quick pic with the flash before the lights came on and they look like they are all standing up just waiting for the lights to come on. Gave them a good shot of gas and got the hell out. :)

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NEEDMMASAP

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Decided to drag my CO2 tank downstairs a couple days ago to dose the plants with it and they seem to love it!



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Happy Thanksgiving , I hope you don't mind me asking a bunch of Questions . I got my Silica Gel packs , put some in my seed containers , the pack seem to be a plastic sealed pack , I didn't know if I should cut the pack open and dump the contents into the seeds or what so I called the company that made them , talked to a lady about it . she didn't sound like she knew much about them . she said to just put the pouch in with the seeds , question is - could the plastic somehow allow the moisture through the plastic ?

I have my Colloidal Silver made , but the 2 plants I was going to use are showing signs of both male sacks and female flowers , I'm thinking my plants have Hermied on me , I know my growing conditions really suck , temps got as high as 107 degrees . But my question is = what is the difference between treating a female plant with Colloidal Silver and a plant that Hermies due to bad growing conditions ? Wouldn't I get female seeds both ways ?

I had a really nice growing set-up but then my youngest son and his wife and 4 small grand-kids went broke and they moved in with us , so my wife made me shut every thing down because of the small kids ( worried about family services ) I agreed , then I started up again in a not so good of a location , but not doing to bad , never run into a Hermie situation .

My wife says she only sees 3 things wrong with the way I grow , said its the way I water them , the way I feed them and the amount of light I give them , LOL could say that is sarcasm at its finest LOL .
 

OldMedUser

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I'm pretty sure you don't cut those packs open. I can't be positive but most likely you put the seeds and a pack or more into a jar that seals well and leave them in there. I'm not certain how long you should leave the seeds exposed to the packs as I think they could dry them too much over a long period of time. A couple weeks with the drierite while in the vials with the top off then screwing the tops on and storing the vials in a sealed jar with a bit of the drierite is what I do and I've sprouted 10 yo seeds no problem.

Those packs will eventually absorb as much moisture as they can then need to be recharged or discharged by heating to drive the moisture out of them like I have to do with the Drierite once it turns pink. The microwave would work for that. Then if the packs aren't being used for some time they should be kept in a sealed container to keep them dry or nuked again to dry them out before you use them. The colour changing that the drierite does tells me when it's spent but you don't have that luxury with those.

Don't waste your CS on a hermied plant. You're just going to grow more hermies with any seeds you make from it.

If you think your wife may be right about your growing style maybe start a grow journal so myself and others can chime in and maybe help out. If you think she's wrong then just smile and walk away to preserve marital harmony. :)

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OldMedUser

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Overdue update time for sure. The girls have changed a lot in the last 15 days with a huge explosion of buds turning into colas only 26 days since the flip.

They have been getting 3/4 feed dosing every watering through the stretch with lots of Big Bud and Bud Ignitor added from a few days before flipping. I've been dosing them good with CO2 a few times every day as well and they just went nuts on it all.

I've been seeing some light bleaching happening and when I thought about it a bit I figured that with two 400s in that hood it was beaming about 175 - 200W/sqft so it's no wonder. I recently got a digital heat gun and the leaf temp under the lights was up to 100F. Not good. I swapped out one 400 and moved the 150 from under the plants into the hood and it seems much better. The leaves that were getting yellow up top have greened up a little again so looks like no serious damage done.

I used my E39 - E26 socket adaptor to rig up my shiny new reflector under the plants for side lighting and put my 85W, 5000K CFL in there.

I just pollinated some lower buds on all four girls last night right before lights out so I could leave the fan off overnight and then sprayed down everything below the screen with a fine spray of water before light on. Also gave them a good feeding following the Lucas Formula for the base nutes.

For 20L of water I used 20mls Rhino Skin first then 30mls Micro, 50mls Bloom, 8g BigBud, 6mls CalMag and a tsp of Epsom Salts. No Grow nutes as I want to reduce N now that the stretch has been over since their last feeding 5 days ago. They got a good dose of molasses last time so I didn't bother with it this feed.

Now for some bud porn. 26 days since the flip. Right side.

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Left side. This is where most of the bleaching was happening.

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One of the larger colas of which there are a dozen like it.

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OldMedUser

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Day 36 and they're doing great!

Getting a touch of nute burn so they got just RO water for one watering on the 10th with a lower nute dose but a full 8g of Big Bud on the 14th. Picked up a liter of OverDrive for half price yesterday so will start them on that the next watering in a couple of days. Still showing nute burn a bit more so just the OD and some molasses next time.

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Picked up 6 clones too. 5 - OG18 and one little Purple Kush. Got home late last night but managed to mix up some dirt for them and get them transplanted. 50/50 ProMix HP/ProMix Potting Mix. I have put them in a tall RubberMaid tub covered with Saran Wrap to keep the humidity up and they are a good foot away from the T-12 fluoros now. Just have 4 tubes going to keep the wife's lemon trees happy and give the clones a decent light cycle. They were rooted in a DWC type bubbler and this is the first time I've transplanted bare roots into dirt so hoping it all goes well. The OG's were 8" long and 4" of the stems are in the dirt. The Kush was much shorter but enough is in the dirt it didn't need any support either. Fingers crossed!

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OldMedUser

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Day 50 today and they're getting nice and phat!

Between the nute burn and light bleaching a lot of the upper fan leaves are fading out tho those lower down or in shaded areas are mostly still nice and green. Gave them some more nutes with the OD and Big Bud on the 19th and they didn't like it so much so on the 22nd I soaked them good until runoff then put 5L of RO water through them to lower the level of nutes in the pots. Day and a half ago gave them just OD and about 3 Tbsp of molasses with their watering and that should be the last of the feeding. Looking like maybe 2 weeks to go if that so just water to the end now. Trichs are still mostly clear but some cloudy showing up with a few red hairs here and there but still mostly white.

Some of the colas are big as beer cans so if they put that last rush on to fatten up they're gonna be huge. All the leaves in the buds are crusted with trichs top and bottom so looking like lots of oil/hash in my near future. Had to run a long piece of twist tie wire across the front of the plants as the colas were flopping over and a few of the ones in the back needed tying up to the back screen too.

I snuck in before lights on and took some pics with the flash so here's a little bud porn for a Friday morning.

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The OG18 clones are doing well except the one Purple Kush which is struggling but gradually putting out some new growth. All but one small root got broken in transit so I'm hoping it comes around soon as it grows new roots.

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OldMedUser

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Grabbed a pic with a beer can for size comparison. That cola is bigger than it looks in this pic but hard to get it all in as it goes down a ways further than is visible here. Gotta be there! :D

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Just a glamour shot when she's all made up nice. :)Girls09.jpg

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OldMedUser

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Day 61 now and one plant is close to getting cropped. Plant "A" must be the earliest finisher and has suffered some serious nute burn but not enough to really affect the buds. All the burnt bud leaves were destined for the oil pile anyway. All her colas below the damaged tops look just fine. No burning at all other than the very tips. I flushed her again with 10L of water after first saturating the root ball so the ppm of the final runoff was down to about 500 from 1200 at the start. From sampling her buds she is quite potent compared to plant "B" so I may use the F2 seeds from her for the next generation. Haven't sampled C or D yet so nothing at this point is final.

You can see the difference with the burnt A cola on the left and a nicer looking B cola on the right. "A" is showing a lot more purple which is another trait I'd like to keep but really doesn't matter as far as potency or medicinal qualities go so is a minor factor to me.

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The other three plants seem to need a couple weeks more and got their last feed of OverDrive and a little CalMag yesterday. Some nice phat colas on those ones especially C and D.

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The little Purple Kush clone I was concerned about has perked right up and is looking great now. Be getting cuts off it ASAP.

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Won't be long and I can get 4 or 6 cuts of the OGs and maybe start a DWC tub.

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Finally got some beans planted. The last 3 OTTO#1 beans in the front row with the green toothpicks. The bag seed I found in the Sweet Skunk CBD I bought in BC in the middle. Light in colour but plump and firm so fingers crossed. The other 5 are OTTO x Cannatonic. One of those was cracked in transit so is an extra in the cup with the yellow toothpick to see if it sprouts. Didn't look crushed so it might sprout. 40 hours now but nobody up yet. Should I be worried? ;)

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NEEDMMASAP

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So PM me and if you're right you win 50 beans of the four girls flowering now. :)

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Hi again Old Man , love those pictures of the plants , My Colloidal silver experiment appears to be a failure , not sure yet the plants are about ready to chop and no signs of seeds , in one of your posts you stated--

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QUOTE -- I'm going to make two 200ml batches of my cocobudder with one being decarbed and the other not to see what kind of difference there is in the high and the perceived therapeutic effect. Everything will be done exactly the same except the temp will be kept lower with one so it doesn't decarb. I've got a few cans of sugar trim laying around so might as well use them for something other than hash tho I'll be making some of that as well.

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Would love to hear how that came out , I am trying to help my sister-in -law , she has Pancreatic cancer and the doctors have told her there is nothing more they can do for her , I read something about making suppositories with Cocobudder but didn't say anything about how to make them ?

Sure would like to help you with your Question about the og18 and Win some of those 50 beans , but know nothing about the og18
 

OldMedUser

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QUOTE -- I'm going to make two 200ml batches of my cocobudder with one being decarbed and the other not to see what kind of difference there is in the high and the perceived therapeutic effect. Everything will be done exactly the same except the temp will be kept lower with one so it doesn't decarb. I've got a few cans of sugar trim laying around so might as well use them for something other than hash tho I'll be making some of that as well.
Would love to hear how that came out , I am trying to help my sister-in -law , she has Pancreatic cancer and the doctors have told her there is nothing more they can do for her , I read something about making suppositories with Cocobudder but didn't say anything about how to make them ?
I haven't got around to making any more cocobudder yet. The general consensus is that oils/extracts need to be activated before they are effective as medicines but I've read articles like this one that basically say it still has medicinal effects if it's not decarbed. Whether it's as good I haven't figured out yet. Oil that isn't decarbed should be able to be taken at higher doses without getting you so high. That way you can get more medicine in you without getting ripped off your ass. Tiny doses are what most people start with until you build up more tolerance to handle larger doses. I was taking some 10:1 cocobudder every day for a month and the same amount I started with, 2mls, still got me uncomfortably high at the end of the month.

I've read some stuff about using suppositories inserted to the proper depth so you get the medicine without the high but I can't seem to find a bookmark to the article. Some searching should turn up lots of articles how to make them and that one about seating the suppository. So much research should have been done by now if it weren't for the US suppressing any research that showed any benefit from using cannabis. They were only interested in results showing it's harms which are very few and minor. Almost all the harm associated with cannabis use is from prohibition itself.

Sure would like to help you with your Question about the og18 and Win some of those 50 beans , but know nothing about the og18
I wasn't starting a contest or anything. He had said he knew where the clones were from and I wanted to see if he was right so offered an incentive. No reply so far. :) I've shipped many packs of beans to people I have met in forums if they are in Canada. I'm leery about shipping out of the country especially to the US tho I use a phony return address I don't want the authorities looking for fingerprints as mine are on file from an impaired driving conviction in '93. I knew nothing about the OG18 either and when I posted in a thread dealing with various OG strains was informed that they are not the same thing as the Ocean Grown family of strains that the thread was discussing. Someone there sent me this link to it's origins tho.

My best buddy from my childhood died a few years back from pancreatic cancer. I think he got it from the diabetes medications that are known to cause that kind off cancer or maybe the 2L bottles of Diet Coke he drank every day and the toxic artificial sweeteners and artificial caramel colouring that California considers a carcinogenic. Nasty type of cancer and I hope she manages to beat it. He smoked a lot of pot but didn't try oils. I went out to BC to stay with him for a few days about 6 months before he died and he looked really bad then but was still taking chemo. They ended up having to keep him in a drug-induced coma the last month as the pain was so bad. If they did that to a dog they'd be charged with cruelty so they put the dog down. I want to be put down should my demise come to such a horrible end.

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NEEDMMASAP

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I haven't got around to making any more cocobudder yet. The general consensus is that oils/extracts need to be activated before they are effective as medicines but I've read articles like this one that basically say it still has medicinal effects if it's not decarbed. Whether it's as good I haven't figured out yet. Oil that isn't decarbed should be able to be taken at higher doses without getting you so high. That way you can get more medicine in you without getting ripped off your ass. Tiny doses are what most people start with until you build up more tolerance to handle larger doses. I was taking some 10:1 cocobudder every day for a month and the same amount I started with, 2mls, still got me uncomfortably high at the end of the month.

I've read some stuff about using suppositories inserted to the proper depth so you get the medicine without the high but I can't seem to find a bookmark to the article. Some searching should turn up lots of articles how to make them and that one about seating the suppository. So much research should have been done by now if it weren't for the US suppressing any research that showed any benefit from using cannabis. They were only interested in results showing it's harms which are very few and minor. Almost all the harm associated with cannabis use is from prohibition itself.



I wasn't starting a contest or anything. He had said he knew where the clones were from and I wanted to see if he was right so offered an incentive. No reply so far. :) I've shipped many packs of beans to people I have met in forums if they are in Canada. I'm leery about shipping out of the country especially to the US tho I use a phony return address I don't want the authorities looking for fingerprints as mine are on file from an impaired driving conviction in '93. I knew nothing about the OG18 either and when I posted in a thread dealing with various OG strains was informed that they are not the same thing as the Ocean Grown family of strains that the thread was discussing. Someone there sent me this link to it's origins tho.

My best buddy from my childhood died a few years back from pancreatic cancer. I think he got it from the diabetes medications that are known to cause that kind off cancer or maybe the 2L bottles of Diet Coke he drank every day and the toxic artificial sweeteners and artificial caramel colouring that California considers a carcinogenic. Nasty type of cancer and I hope she manages to beat it. He smoked a lot of pot but didn't try oils. I went out to BC to stay with him for a few days about 6 months before he died and he looked really bad then but was still taking chemo. They ended up having to keep him in a drug-induced coma the last month as the pain was so bad. If they did that to a dog they'd be charged with cruelty so they put the dog down. I want to be put down should my demise come to such a horrible end.

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Thanks for the information Old Man that will help a lot , sorry to hear about your buddy , my brother did say she had been on diabetes medication for a long time and when we would visit them they always had that diet soda pop , I would never drink that shit , they always made sure they had regular soda for me

Just kind of kidding about the seeds although I do want to get some better seeds ( want to try Auto flower plants )I am just afraid to order from the seed companys because of customs , dont want to be on LEOs radar , I ordered some cocoabutter from Amazon a little bit ago , have it Tues , want to make some skin cream , Cocoabutter with Oil and B17 in it , I had already decarbed it so I will try that as a starting point , also Mainlined 5 plants , that will be interesting .
Have you ever ran Auto Flower plants ?
 

OldMedUser

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The seeds that I was offering are the F1 cross of my fave regular cross and an auto called Purple Jem. I'm trying to get an autoflowering version of the first cross to grow outdoors here where I'm too far north to have regular plants finish flowering outside. Almost at the 60th parallel here.

Regular pop isn't much better as it's full of high fructose corn syrup and the toxic caramel colouring, (in colas like Coke and Pepsi). HFCS causes fatty, non-alcoholic liver disease and cirrhosis in young children as well as adults. I haven't had any pop in years and beside coffee and RO water only drink pure fruit juices that haven't been made from concentrates. Sometimes there's some vodka in my apple juice but not often. :)

I haven't actually grown autos to get size but have grown many just to breed them for more seeds. The F2 seeds coming off the plants flowering now will be grown under 20 hour light to see which start flowering on their own then those will be used to breed the next generation..

If you do order seeds get them sent to an address other than your own. I've only ever bought seeds once and walked into the store in Vancouver and paid cash. That was 6 or 7 years ago.

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OldMedUser

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Cropped Plant "A" thinking it was done but it could have gone longer. All the fan leaves were going dark but turned out they were turning purple and not burning. Trichs were all mostly still clear tho fully formed.

I still spent too much time pre-trimming and it took me about 8 hours to get it all ready for the TrimPro. Next plant gets less than half that time I hope. Just going to clip off anything that doesn't have sugar on it and feed it to the machine.

Ended up with 230g of nice looking buds, 60g of sugar trim by hand and 50g of mostly chopped up bud from the trimmer. All wet weights that I have slow drying in these bowls with sheets of paper over them. Keeping them in the mud room where it's about 8C/45F. I'm dumping them out onto a sheet of parchment paper to spread out and air dry for about 5min twice a day and hope to go about 3 weeks on the buds doing that with less time to dry the trim.

Machine trimmed in the purple bowl and the hand trimmed under it with the buds up front.

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I repotted the clones into 2L cans and the plan for them is to get at least 6 clones off the stringy OG18s, move 4 of them into the basement as soon as the big ones are out in the next week or so, repot thme into larger pots, veg/ScroG for a bit then flower them out. I'll keep one for a mother in case I really like the buzz. The Purple Kush will get cloned for possible DWC and kept for a mother.

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A new project I started on the 18th was I filled a seed flat 2/3 with my planting mix then covered it with a bit of screened ProMix then laid out seeds in a grid, covered with a half inch of the screened stuff and watered it all in. Today on the 23rd all but 5 or 6 are up. As soon as they have a couple sets of true leaves they will be transplanted into 10 - 2 gal pots with 6 or 7 per pot. Vegged for a month then flowered in a SoG. In about 4 or 5 weeks will do another batch like that to have a shitload of colas down the road. Should be fun. :)

56 seeds of the same strain that are flowering in the grow room now and 20 of the Blue Heaven, (L.S.D. x Blueberry), that finish much faster so when they flower out I can stagger the harvest. I'm going to have to build a drying box to handle all the bud I have planned. Need to build my extra grow room first and will be picking up the materials for that next week.

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