Optimum Humidity?

Underground Scientist · Mar 16, 2017

ChaosHunter said:
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Perfect bud, thanks.

Underground Scientist · Mar 16, 2017

SSGrower said:
How effective have those co2 bags been for you? Especially given a 100cfm flow for a 2x2x? Im asking not being a dick.

It's 4' tall BTW, with a 1x1.5x2 bump out on the side to place an oscillating fan, hepa passive intake, and co2 additive sources.

SSGrower · Mar 16, 2017

Underground Scientist said:
Yeah, It's not ideal to have so much flow for a small space, i might try not having the intake in the box, but external.

With the bag, it recommends just spraying with water to activate. If I spray it, my co2 meter will go up 100 - 200 ppm, even with the door off. Looking at the CO2 graph on my monitor, it looks like as it dries it peaks and then fades. So if my humidity was actually stable and I spritzed it, it might work better longer. Running some mild humidification does seem to add 100 to 200 ppm fairly steadily, even with ventilation. So it does work, but I think being fairly sealed is important to get greater results.

I screwed up my first few batches of fermentation. They worked, but not like they should have. I made some foolish mistakes, like not heating the water enough to dissolve the sugar better or properly activating the yeast. Using DADY Distiller's yeast. It is cheap in bulk and can withstand high alcohol content. I can hook a hose from the carboy, into the grow space, and put the airlock in the grow space for co2 release. I'm about ready to start another batch. If honey wasn't so expensive, I would use my Mead runs to fuel my grows. Pretty efficient from a production standpoint. Cane sugar brew costs me about $1 per gallon, Mead costs about $12 a gallon, but I get a nice end product with Mead, and I just dump the sugar brew.

I suspect this change you see is the result of an increase of humidity interfering with the sensor more so than an actual increase in co2, what kind of sensor?

Instant yeast is all thats needed, yeast nutrient can help. Much of what you post here makes me think you may have a bill washing operation going as well? @RM3 knows his shit much more so than alot of jackasses on here so when you post these questions you have you need to respect the time of the responder if you want the best result for yourself.

Underground Scientist · Mar 16, 2017

SSGrower said:
I suspect this change you see is the result of an increase of humidity interfering with the sensor more so than an actual increase in co2, what kind of sensor?

Instant yeast is all thats needed, yeast nutrient can help. Much of what you post here makes me think you may have a bill washing operation going as well? @RM3 knows his shit much more so than alot of jackasses on here so when you post these questions you have you need to respect the time of the responder if you want the best result for yourself.

It works with just the misting of the pad itself and no real change in ambient humidity.

Autopilot Desktop Data Monitor & Logger

I have it set as far away from the pad as possible. You can see on the graph when the pad runs out of moisture completely, it drops back down to baseline.

And I know bakers yeast will work, but DADY Distillers yeast is only 10.75 per pound, a little more cost effective than say flieschmann's?

SSGrower · Mar 16, 2017

Underground Scientist said:
, but DADY Distillers yeast is only 10.75 per pound, a little more cost effective than say flieschmann's?

If youre going to distribute cost to making mead then maybe, but nutrient is cheaper, used in tsp quantites and, one packet fleichmans at $0.30.
Skin that cat however you want.

Underground Scientist · Mar 16, 2017

SSGrower said:
If youre going to distribute cost to making mead then maybe, but nutrient is cheaper, used in tsp quantites and, one packet fleichmans at $0.30.
Skin that cat however you want.

Right, got nothing against fleichmans. How much sugar per gallon you running? I add nutrient as well. tsp each yeast/nute. I use 2-3 lbs per gallon of GV cane sugar.

growingforfun · Mar 16, 2017

Personally i use bakers yeast that costs about $3 a lb and it can ferment up to 15% so meh... and your yeast can last many batches. I know its all pretty cheap.

Any reason to not distill your suger washes? Maybe add a little this an that to the fermenter for flaver such as corn or some berries....

You can build a 5 gallon still for about $120 including everything, copper, water pump, everything.

Underground Scientist · Mar 16, 2017

growingforfun said:
Personally i use bakers yeast that costs about $3 a lb and it can ferment up to 15% so meh... and your yeast can last many batches. I know its all pretty cheap.

Any reason to not distill your suger washes? Maybe add a little this an that to the fermenter for flaver such as corn or some berries....

You can build a 5 gallon still for about $120 including everything, copper, water pump, everything.

I haven't got that far, but could be a great idea. Possibly reuse soil for outdoor endeavors of berries for just that. Plant companion plants in the back yard and a lady bug house. They love those raisins. A lot of brewers use raisins for a yeast nutrient as well. How about some cannamead, flavored with fresh oranges, cinnamon and vanilla bean.

Underground Scientist · Mar 18, 2017

growingforfun said:
Any reason to not distill your suger washes?

You think this might end up a halfway decent drink?

1 gallon Poland Spring Water, 3 Lbs Cane Sugar, 1 tsp DADY yeast activated in 2 oz of 105 degree water, 140 degree water when sugar is added and yeast pitched on the cool off period at 105 degrees. Raisins for yeast nutrient, and one Organic Orange, and one Madagascar Vanilla Bean.

Underground Scientist · Mar 18, 2017

These cost 3-5 bucks to make, and will ferment rapidly, generating co2 but keep it dark and store it at temps your yeast likes. In two months, you could have 4 wine bottles of potential booze for enjoyment and perhaps the perfect inexpensive drinks for relatives. Age it 6-12 months for a quality brew. Make better brews with better base sugars for success

Underground Scientist · Mar 18, 2017

I've made 3 gallons of Mead, looking at Blackstrap Molasses for my next sugar base.

Huckster79 · Mar 18, 2017

I feel working your way towards vpd is great idea, i feel you can follow that into the heavy growth part of flower at a higher than what most consider ok temp and then start backing down to finish low temp and rh... full vpd charts through first 4 or 5 weeks of flower then incrementally step down to finish cool and dry... this way you help plant grow its best, but then finish by tailoring enviornment to best ripening conditions for high quality end product... im working on getting back to this, i got off track with diff plants at diff stages in flower so kept it cool n dry for quality, lost quantity on those girls that had to grow in cooler dryer setting for longer, because i was accomodating a finishing sister...

Underground Scientist · Mar 21, 2017

Things have been better after a Botanicare CalMag foliar feeding. Branching is going well. Lime green leaves turning darker. Pretty stout plants, short internodes, but again, the leaves are dry feeling to the touch. They aren't burning on the tips or edges though. They feel dry. I've been getting humidity a little higher, but still not ideal. Maybe 20-25%. I have quite a bit of air exchange to control heat, so the humidifier can only do so much with ambient humidity around 9%. Temps only get up to 80, so it's not bad at all. This can only be fert, light, or humidity. The light isn't that far away, only 12" or so with a 400w, could be too close...maybe should back that off some? Fert shouldn't be bad, over a month old and feeding around 500 ppm, with 100 - 150 ppm plain waterings with a cal mag amendment for the RO. And low humidity.

SSGrower · Mar 21, 2017

Underground Scientist said:
Right, got nothing against fleichmans. How much sugar per gallon you running? I add nutrient as well. tsp each yeast/nute. I use 2-3 lbs per gallon of GV cane sugar.

Just saw this, I start with 2 cups in a gallon then 1 cup in a quart as replacement, pinch of nutrient after a few "feedings".

growingforfun · Mar 21, 2017

Underground Scientist said:
You think this might end up a halfway decent drink?

1 gallon Poland Spring Water, 3 Lbs Cane Sugar, 1 tsp DADY yeast activated in 2 oz of 105 degree water, 140 degree water when sugar is added and yeast pitched on the cool off period at 105 degrees. Raisins for yeast nutrient, and one Organic Orange, and one Madagascar Vanilla Bean.

Best part of distilling is everything is easier when it doesnt need to be sterile.
Room temp tap water, added to old batches. Saves money on yeast tho cheap.

Easy to do 35 gallon batches in rubbermaid trashcans, lots of co2

50 lb bags of sugar are cheap an works out easy bag dump. Rasins dump, cornflakes dump, yeast dump. Done in a week around 15%. Thats around 4 gallons of highproof.

Underground Scientist · Mar 21, 2017

growingforfun said:
Best part of distilling is everything is easier when it doesnt need to be sterile.
Room temp tap water, added to old batches. Saves money on yeast tho cheap.

Easy to do 35 gallon batches in rubbermaid trashcans, lots of co2
50 lb bags of sugar are cheap an works out easy bag dump. Rasins dump, cornflakes dump, yeast dump. Done in a week around 15%. Thats around 4 gallons of highproof.

Ha, gonna have to talk about this more...this is awesome.

growingforfun · Mar 21, 2017

Underground Scientist said:
Ha, gonna have to talk about this more...this is awesome.

Whatcha need to know beyond that? Thats all there is to it really. Theres a really good forum called homedistiller with lots of g9od tips. Odin has a great cornflakes recipe just add rasins.

Underground Scientist · Mar 21, 2017

Quantities. Never heard of cornflakes, but never got into it, and know nothing of distilling besides a couple episodes of Moonshiners...Lol. So yeah, quantities, some good resources for info. Do you put the cover on the can with an air lock or anything? Anything special to get that co2 over toward the grow area?

growingforfun · Mar 21, 2017

Underground Scientist said:
Quantities. Never heard of cornflakes, but never got into it, and know nothing of distilling besides a couple episodes of Moonshiners...Lol. So yeah, quantities, some good resources for info. Do you put the cover on the can with an air lock or anything? Anything special to get that co2 over toward the grow area?

Check out the homedistillers forum i mentioned and the recipe by odin.

growingforfun · Mar 21, 2017

And reread post from 823 that has all the info actually.

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