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Organic Growing Made Easy & Fox Farms Ocean Forest!

Discussion in 'Organics' started by Sincerely420, Nov 7, 2012.

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    Pattahabi

    Pattahabi Well-Known Member

    Mmmm Mmmm... Feather meal and blood meal, gotta love the slaughter house byproducts! So are those organic birds and cows? I bet not. How about cutting a cow open and let them bleed on your soil? I mean fresh is better right?

    Subtool should not be allowed to tell people how to grow. I mean seriously, have you listened to this guy talk?

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    Yodaweed

    Yodaweed Well-Known Member

    Can we please move this to the hydro section Fox Farm Ocean Forest is not organic and this entire topic should be in the hydro drain to waste section.
     
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    Joedank

    Joedank Well-Known Member

    @subcool did you make up the name SUPER SOIL? that was @Vichigh 's name was it not??
     
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    radicaldank42

    radicaldank42 Well-Known Member

    but what you do is take is recipe and eliminate the blood meals and feather meals and shit and incorporate you're own recipe. that's what ive been doing but now ive been eliminating amendments and narrowed it down to only a few things rather a few too many
     
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    HazyDays65

    HazyDays65 Active Member

    What's in FFOF that's not organic? Thanks
     
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    Kind Sir

    Kind Sir Well-Known Member

    I got free sample of the whole line of nectar of the gods, any experi3nce with this?
     
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    Yodaweed

    Yodaweed Well-Known Member

    They lost their organic certification I believe it was because of the urea in their soil is not organic but I could be wrong.
     
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    Shed&Breakfest

    Shed&Breakfest Well-Known Member

    thanks for clogging up the thread with utter useless info... the fact is the thread is here... get over it... now rather then finding the info i need i have to waste my time scrolling through your endless comments of 'this stuff isn't organic' jesus fucking christ....

    the amount of utter shit on this site can be soooo fucking annoying... every thread is like this too... rather then getting to the facts is just a endless tirade of people bickering about nothing at all

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    i just wanna know what is a GOOD ph number to have for the run off Fox farm? im getting a bit over 6.01 but can't find any info from anyone else on here without reading the whole blog.

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    and after reading 5 pages of 'this isn't organic' ive had enough of looking so if someone who knows the answer could jsut tell me that'd be great... its a shame these threads have to get ruined by trolls and people who have nothing useful to add to the convo... people just love to hear them selves talk
     
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    Kind Sir

    Kind Sir Well-Known Member

    Solid post. True , I have ph issue as well. Runoff was 1000+ppm and in the 4s for ph. Id like to mix something to die it down.
     
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    Pattahabi

    Pattahabi Well-Known Member

    You mad?
     
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    Shed&Breakfest

    Shed&Breakfest Well-Known Member

    lmfao yes, im sick of the world with people like you in it... if you really are asking bongsmilie

    god... i love when i remeber to use the ignore button.... <3 praise jesus...lmfao


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    *and on a side note... and in general*

    and another thing with this site... too many people on here who think they are your best friends and shit on each other... i don't use this site for social reason, and even if i did im not the type of person to rag on even my REAL friends, so im sure as hell not gunna put up with some no body on the internet pulling that immature high school shit, sorry your life is so boring you need to troll the internet for 'fun' sounds pretty pathetic to me but hey w/e... that what most the internet has become... and w/e but this site should stick to the facts... as in data, numbers, actual useful info... thats great that you're aware FFOF isn't organic but i don't really care in the first place, i just came looking for other people's grow advice, as in what actually occurred in the grow, not info that i can look up on the company site if i really wanted to know if was organic or not
     
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    Shed&Breakfest

    Shed&Breakfest Well-Known Member

    deff want dolomite lime for that, but i haven't been able to get a solid idea as to how much for one little plant... most people say 1 cup for 5 gals of soil but i am not mixing that much.
     
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    Pattahabi

    Pattahabi Well-Known Member

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    I think when you hit 1200 ppm your organic plants will spontaneously combust. At least that's what I heard anyway. However, if you check the runoff in time, there may still be time for open heart surgery... or was it chemotherapy? This agriculture stuff is so confusing...

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    Kind Sir

    Kind Sir Well-Known Member

    Please be respectful on here, trying to figure what Im doing!! ( :
    Ill buy a small bag locally, can you use water and ph down? Idk why i even bought that stuff
     
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    Pattahabi

    Pattahabi Well-Known Member

    The general rule of liming is 1c per cu ft (7.5 gallons) of NON limed peat moss. Meaning if you are using promix, there is no need to lime again. If you are using lakeland or premier peat, you will need to add calcium carbonate. I prefer oyster shell over dolo lime, but both can work. It would also be a good idea to get a little gypsum flour in your soil. 1/2c per cu ft of base soil mix.

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    Kind Sir

    Kind Sir Well-Known Member

    Solid info brotha! I appreciate it, ocean forest starts with oyster shells so must be solid. ITs a good just in case item, I shouldve haad already.when I water or feed (i dont feed yet)arnt I supposed to use ph up ( I hwve orange GH PH UP/DOWN) and get it between 6.5-6.8?
     
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    Pattahabi

    Pattahabi Well-Known Member

    Imo you do not pH an organic grow. The soil microbes and plant exudes will take care of this for you as long as your mix is somewhere in the ballpark. I wouldn't add too much lime as this will cause problems also. What are you planning to 'feed'?

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    GHOPZZ

    GHOPZZ Well-Known Member

    My usual mix is 2 to 1 ratio of Pro-Mix BX to Ocean Forest with extra perlite. I usually just water for three weeks then start with 15ml to gallon of SPT, after 2 weeks of that I start my Veg nutes from BMO with occasionally waters with molasses. My flowering is also with BMO and later weeks with molasses and alaskan morabloom. My end result is good but looking to improve in regards to taste, smell yield. I veg with t5's on a 24hr cycle and flower with HPS 12/12. Im open to sugestions on nutes replacements adding more to soil such as worm castings? whats everyones thoughts?
     
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    Shed&Breakfest

    Shed&Breakfest Well-Known Member

    6.5-6.8 is like perfect!!! i wish i had those numbers, i wouldn't try to change the soil ph with the acid. you can change the water if your water is hard but even then i'd recommend a RO filter instead. but to each his own


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    ***another side note... gotta love it when you call people out and thier 'troll' buddies try to come to the rescue, too bad for them the auto ignore is in full effect... if you want to be respected don't troll... its that simple... i pay zero attention to trolls


    i miss the days when the moderators actually banned people for causing a scene. now a days this place looks more like reddit then RIU. in fact i went to the micro grow page on reddit and it seemed more helpful and less trolly then this place... so that is saying alot

    considering reddit is the mecca of trolls
     
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    Pattahabi

    Pattahabi Well-Known Member

    Ban people for answering the question you didn't know? Lol. Who quoted who first and started talking smack?

    Sniffle, sniffle, sob...

    bongsmilie

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