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Organic Growing Made Easy & Fox Farms Ocean Forest!

Discussion in 'Organics' started by Sincerely420, Nov 7, 2012.

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    DrCannaPath

    DrCannaPath Well-Known Member

    Thank you very much brother for taking the time to read my post and reply! .... i was worried that my mix would be too hot at first then just went ahead and mixed it up anyway. Now that you mentioned it, i am hoping that the 4 to possibly 6 weeks of letting the soil "cook" will help out in regards to how hot it is. I am also going to wait until almost a week or few days before flipping bwfore i transplant the girls to their final and hotter mix. Hopefully that'll help them not burn. Ill also try to get some kelp from a nearby beach to dry it then use it for top dressing or in teas i know for a fact i wont be able to get anything to help raise the pH but ill try to collect some crushed seashells from the beach and see if I can pulverize it (or can i use it in as course as it is?) thanks bro again for your help. This organic gardening is like all new ocean for this fish and this fish is loving swimming in it

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    ShLUbY

    ShLUbY Well-Known Member

    you're welcome! glad you saw the response! it's always good to ask questions...

    the thing about nutrients is they dont expire unless they are used up. so your microbes will consume some but the vast majority will still be in the mix, so letting it sit won't do a lot to "dilute" the mixture. what goes in stays in until it's taken out... you know... just like matter is neither created or destroyed. microbes will consume the nutrients and grow more microbes, but all that nutrition is still in the soil in the bodily forms of the microbes, and the stuff the exude. when the microbes die those nutrients that built their bodily forms are returned back to the soil and new microbes/benes consume those and so on and so on and so on. So basically what i'm saying is your plants pull the majority of nutrients from your soil to build plant matter! :)

    also i highly suggest waiting 2-3 weeks before flipping when you transplant (depending on container size 3wk is best IMO). you want to give the plants time to spread their roots out in the new pot, so that when you do flip, A) the can drink water faster which means they won't sit in a damp/wet soil between waterings. you gotta remember they can only drink and feed where the roots are so you want the roots to "move into the pot". B) having more roots will allow them to uptake what they need better/faster so when you do flip, they'll be able to take everything they need and really get an explosive start to flowering.

    IMO, if you flip a week after transplant, it's just not enough time to let the plant do what it needs to do to "move into the pot".

    pulverizing the shells would be best. you create more surface area. which means that more microbes can work on the shell flour. you can topdress the shells and over time they will work their way into the soil via water erosion/leaching. you have some lime in the FFOF so that will work until the shell flour starts to do its thing!

    just remember.... more is not always better!!!!
     
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    DrCannaPath

    DrCannaPath Well-Known Member

    Thanks brother again for your reply and the additional tips. Alright ill try to let them go for a couple weeks before I flip. But then that means ill have to transplant them into their final pot maybe in a week when i just transplantted them from their 3" germination pots to their i think 8" veg pots 3 days ago. 10 days in this 8"pot is ok beforr i transplant again? The final pots I have are 35L (almost 10 gal). Thanks again brother

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    ShLUbY

    ShLUbY Well-Known Member

    generally how i do it is from the cloner to a quart sized pot for a couple weeks so the roots fill it out, then to a 1 gal pot for 2-3 weeks so the roots fill it out, and then to a 7-10 gal for 2-3 weeks (again let roots grow) and then into flower. I know @greasemonkeymann 's process is very similar to mine.

    you want to build a good size root-ball before you get them into the bigger container, so i would say if you try and transplant from the 8" to the 10 gal it's just going to fall apart when you remove from the 8" so quickly. just remember.... some things in life are worth waiting for, even though i'm sure you're anxious as all fuck to get some into flower lol. i know i would be!
     
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    greasemonkeymann

    greasemonkeymann Well-Known Member

    damn good advice, another thing worth mentioning is not only is this method the best for minimizing root-shock ( a formed rootball is nearly undisturbed at trans, done correctly)
    but the method is also the best for maximizing the soil web, frequent transplants tend to create a more dense rootball, reason being is cannabis is a drought tolerant plant, and it shoots the roots out as far as it can when transplanted, when it does that it tends to NOT fill inside the smaller areas inside the container, rather more on the outside (looking for water, so to speak)
     
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    DrCannaPath

    DrCannaPath Well-Known Member

    Thank you gentlemen for taking the time to help out a fellow grower ... i appreciate all your valuable advice. My axiety with trying to (or having to) send them into flowering by feb 15 is the time constraints I have. I have to go on 2 trips out of the country, once during and once after i harvest (and the trips are 3 weeks long each hah)
    Ill have to check the calendar and see if I can stretch the veg a little longer and flower after I come back from the first trip and make sure that (with estimated flowering time +2weeks) ill finish flowering AND harvest before I have to leave the country again for another 3 weeks
    Thank you gentlemen


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