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Organic no till, probiotic, knf, jadam, vermicomposting, soil mixes, sips etc... Q & A

Discussion in 'Organics' started by hyroot, Oct 11, 2017.


    DonTesla Well-Known Member

    .. noticed this wasn't answered ?..
    I would add the worms after unless you have plenty to spare, in case your mix is hot.
    In other words, this is recipe-dependant.. but better safe than sorry same time.

    Re: the cover crop, it is a good way to get endo myco fungi established early,
    potentially allowing you to avoid individual sprinklings later at each transplant, as they need roots to infect (in a good way).. once a main crop is introduced a cover crop becomes a companion crop, with inherent pro's and con's to this latter stage.

    You can also do water only with amazing results if Hy's regime is too much for you. Make your own compost and the expression may wow you.

    & in Hy's defense, he makes all his own stuff for very cheap. Practically no cost, really. Once you have stable ferments they can last if stored properly.
    For example, use a small mouth bottle for your labs and it can last nearly forever if it's made right.
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    dubekoms Well-Known Member

    Oh no not hyroot, I meant the modern methods schedule from buildasoil.
    Chunky Stool

    Chunky Stool Well-Known Member

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    DonTesla Well-Known Member

    Yeah modern is a bit ridiculous, more like mayhem. I agree there 100%.

    Even hy does a lot of work, imo, a lot more than me, anyway, with all due respect.. I do hope to try his herb out this year in person if I can make time, to see if its all worth it. One good bong rip and I could tell you a lot. For me, though, I'm constantly looking for the MED principle or Minimum Effective Doses, and MEWL, Minimum Effective Work Load.. to bring out the most amazing results.. without over complicating it. KIS all day.

    How far can we take water only growing, and how little can we do to get immaculate, expressive, terp-rich herb full of potency, color & flavour. The common ground there is what interests me. Interesting stuff for sure!
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    BionicΩChronic Well-Known Member

    VERY nice ice hash what micron?

    BionicΩChronic Well-Known Member

    He had developed some nice plants but had to start over cause of broad mites.
    What sprays do u use to prevent this and other mites?
    Neem? Citrus?
    What about bud worms and the accursed bud ROT?
    The latter is the biggest issue in my region
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    DonTesla Well-Known Member


    Bud rot is from lack of soluble calcium, I think, as seen in tomatoes with blossom end rot.
    What form(s) of calcium do you use..

    And since Hy is away from the desk at the moment..

    He endorses a 5 part IPM regime with a different spray every 2nd day as to keep the fuckers shocked and make it harder for them to adapt.

    Neem oil
    Citrus Ferment etc
    then repeat cycle

    We talked about it on the first few pages here :) Tutorials posted too
    Chunky Stool

    Chunky Stool Well-Known Member

    You are referring to tip rot.
    Bud rot is caused by cold & wet conditions -- and it starts on the stem.
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    DonTesla Well-Known Member

    Yep. You got me, I've never had either issue tbh in all my years and I read that pretty quick.. just some friends have, but yeah, you could post an info source to confirm / that'd be champ
    Chunky Stool

    Chunky Stool Well-Known Member

    I don't have an info source, but I lost at least 4 zips to bud rot last year on my outdoor grow.

    Pretty sure I know what it looks like and what causes it... :roll:
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    DonTesla Well-Known Member

    moment of silence for the buds...


    Experience is the best teacher though, so I would say it counts as an info source

    I see lots of so called bud rot in the street stuff being sold, even at dispensaries, many of them, sadly.
    I just call it mold..bloody spoilage fungus actually botrytis cinerea

    You could have still sold it there lol Jk
    Indoors it can be avoided though, so it surprises me so much makes it way to retail
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    CaptainSnap Active Member

    Hello fellow herbalists!
    Just started getting into the true organics over a year ago thanks to the leaders in the section!! You guys rock.

    I've been having issues since winter set in with not being able to hold enough water in my 10 gallon pots to be gone 3 days every week and my plants are showing severe yellowing due to them being wilted every time I come back. I really liked the idea of going with bigger containers and going trying my hand at sips style containers. Any of you who built your own with cotton rope wicks? Any tips or suggestions? such as how many wicks you used or how many for a certain gallon pot size?

    If you get the chance I posted pictures of the 20 gallon sips containers I built.

    ShLUbY Well-Known Member

    there are a couple possible solutions.

    you could get one of those large, deep "runoff trays" you know the 4x4 and 4x8 ones that are like 8 inches deep... and then install a float valve on it so that when it goes below a certain level, it will trip the water back on and refill it. basically you'd be building a passive hydro table, which seems awesome to me! it may require you to prop your plants up slightly, but it would definitely do the trick.

    also, you could go the blumat route, if you are not attached to having SIP garden, and they do a pretty damn good job. sometimes they can be finicky, but the same thing can apply. you can get a reservoir, install a float valve, and then not have to worry about leaving for several days!
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    RandomHero8913 Well-Known Member

    I’ll second the blumat option. Once they are setup life becomes so much easier. They’ll be at the moisture level you set them at for the rest of the grow and you’ll be surprised at how little work needs to done.
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    ShLUbY Well-Known Member

    literally don't know what i would do without them....

    in veg with my smaller pots (1 gal and less) i have been experimenting recently with some "psuedoSIPs". i just put about 1-1.5" of pumice at the bottom of the pot, and then soil above that. then i put the plants on a drip tray and just put water in the tray and let the pumice wick it up to the soil. it's been working great so far as i can tell... only about 10 days in so far but having no worries about dry soil as far as i can tell. pots have nice weight to them whenever i check once the tray dries out.
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    dubekoms Well-Known Member

    Sounds kind of like the swick method. I think you use fabric pots and put them over a container of perlite. Fill the container with water until its 2 inches below the fabric pot. Sounds a lot easier than cutting holes and what not for net pots in sips. If its working well for you I might give it a shot, my only worry is it might get overwatered? Maybe letting the roots fill out the pot first would be a good option before putting it on the perlite.
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    ShLUbY Well-Known Member

    the pumice is in the pot itself. so no soil medium actually sits in the water at all. the pumice is what sits in the water, and naturally wicks water up to the soil. so far i have not experienced any signs of over-saturation (i've lifted the containers to make sure they didn't have too much weight to them) I'll take some pics when i get back home today and put them in my thread. hopefully, they will still be looking good :)
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    dubekoms Well-Known Member

    Gotcha I think I've seen you make a 5 gal sip before? I'm stuck on what size net pot to use I was thinking maybe 4in?

    ShLUbY Well-Known Member

    t'was not me! but it sounds like fun though. Just haven't gotten around to it yet!
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