Organic Noob

calliandra

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This is so hard for me to understand and I don't know why lol.
Don't panic, just enjoy the journey! :D
When you get into real organics your frame of reference changes.
We have been indoctrinated with the idea of feeding nutrients to plants, whilst in real organics all we do is establish a good environment and support the natural cooperation of the plant with beneficial microorganisms in the soil and on the plant surfaces.
In essence, you're switching from a mindset of control to one of trust, and that doesn't happen in a day hehe

So if I were to start composting, I could mix that with coco, crab meal and everything else you mentioned, and just supplement with tea as deficiencies show? Any links that could point me in the right direction so you don't have to waste any more of your time on me?
Rasta Roy just wrote a lovely introduction here: https://www.rollitup.org/t/organic-growing-an-introductory-guide.921380/

And definitely Jeff Loewenfels, Teaming with Microbes, gives you a good intro to the workings of living soil.
https://books.google.at/books/about/Teaming_with_Microbes.html?id=r3ZsL47QiVQC

Hope that helps! :bigjoint:
 
wait...
with just that amount of room i'd go smaller plastic square containers, to fit as many tops as you can.
train clones to two tops a piece
get these.
http://www.hydrogalaxy.com/pots-square-pots/3-gallon-white-square-pot/?utm_source=msn&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=Bing Shopping&utm_content=All Products new&utm_term=1101002975583
you can fit six of those in your area, and have either 12 tops or 24 depending on how you train.
in a 3 gallon a small plant wont be a problem
a ten x ten footprint would match a nicely trained four-cola clone
24 tops of even small colas would get you at least a lb,
or hopefully
Hey Grease.. I'm still vacillating weather to use x4 big 10 gal pots or x9 (or 12) 3 gal pots in my 3' x 3' tent.. Obviously 4 plants would take a little bit more veg time. With the 3 gallon pots, would you basically root clones, top (or fim), transplant and go straight into flowering? Would a soil mix such as 'Cootz's mix' support a plant throughout the flowering cycle with perhaps a bit of top dressing if needed?
 

greasemonkeymann

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Hey Grease.. I'm still vacillating weather to use x4 big 10 gal pots or x9 (or 12) 3 gal pots in my 3' x 3' tent.. Obviously 4 plants would take a little bit more veg time. With the 3 gallon pots, would you basically root clones, top (or fim), transplant and go straight into flowering? Would a soil mix such as 'Cootz's mix' support a plant throughout the flowering cycle with perhaps a bit of top dressing if needed?
ok, so heres my train of reasoning on this, if you do bigger pots, you will undoubtedly have bigger plants, BUT, longer vege times, and less colas.
SO, with a faster vege time, more plants, more colas, BUT less time trained/veged means smaller colas, BUT more of them.
You follow me?
with your space allotted the minimizing factor is the space.
I root clones, and as soon as I transplant into a party-cup, then I start training to two tops ,basicly bending the top two growing shoots down to the third or fourth growing shoots, then training those for the next 14-20 days under a good light, at that point the tops should be roughly the same height.
depending on your schedule that's when you flip, but most people match their flowering time, to their clone/train/time.
Meaning that most have a 50-70 day flowering time, if you don't have an extra room theres no point to vege fast.
Make sense?
for example, I run multiple strains, with variable maturation times, from 50 to 80 days, you don't finish all at once unless you are doing a monocrop.
so you clone each strains right before you flip, then it takes about 10-15 days to root the clones, so you trans after they root, then again to train, and finally into the 3 gals about 15 days prior to flip, if you time it right the time allotted for cloning, training, and transplanting, matches the time you need to flower, and then theres no hiccup when you are done.
a simple perpetual harvest
 

greasemonkeymann

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Would a soil mix such as 'Cootz's mix' support a plant throughout the flowering cycle with perhaps a bit of top dressing if needed?
i'd say yes, a good amended and cycled coots mix will last in a three gallon grow, assuming your flipped around two weeks after transplanting.
probably wouldn't need anything added
assuming the plant isn't a fast stretcher or a long maturing sativa
 
Thanks Grease! So you're essentially rooting clones, then topping them and training them for a bit in the small container/cup before transplanting into the 3 gal. container? I'm sure there's many ways to skin this.. This is my first soil grow coming from my last hydro grow about a decade ago (clone, veg, scrog, flower). I appreciate the pointers! Thank you!
 
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