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Panama Red -Greenthumb Seeds

Discussion in 'Grow Journals' started by Dr Gruber, Jul 14, 2017.

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    Dr Gruber

    Dr Gruber Well-Known Member

    In life, we are sometimes given opportunities that if we fail to act on, will be gone forever. However, every once in a while, we are given a second chance at something we thought was a long lost hope.
    Around 1979 I missed my chance at real Panama Red when I was taken for $25 (half ounce) by a local legend of a pot head by the name of Richard E.
    Among other things, Richard is know for what were termed, "Cheater hits," where he would take repeated in and out drags of a joint or bowl, trying to fill his lungs to capacity, and wasting a bunch in the process.
    This could be a real issue when pot was scarce and you had to share with a group.

    One day Richard told a friend and I (Dr Sharp) that he could get us some of the legendary PR but for a slightly higher price. We shelled out the money and waited for his return but alas, he never came back.
    We eventually ran into him and he concocted some story about being ripped off and we just had to let it go at that. Over the next year or so, Richard kept promising to get some PR and he even smoked us out with what he claimed was real PR, but we never knew for sure if it was the real deal.
    To this day, I cannot be sure that it was real so I cannot express how excited I am to get my "second chance" to find out, and to give Richard a second chance at redemption..

    At the time, the story on PR was that it was highly psychedelic and I used that factoid and the Richard E story to save my ass one day. I must have been about 15 years old at the time and one day my buddy, Dr Sharp and I ran into Richard. Richard had some mescaline for sale(micro dots) and we decided to give it a try for the first time. Well, when I came home 3 hours later and I was flying out of my mind, my older sister noticed something was up and started questioning me. She was cool with me smoking pot but not doing heavy drugs and she was sure to tell my parents and I would face heavy trouble.
    My mind was reeling but quickly settled on the fact that she knew the Richard E, "PR" story and told her an elaborate story of a chance meeting and smoke session with Richard and his famous Red Bud. She bought it hook line and sinker because she was more concerned that I didn't get some to share with her and because PR had a reputation that explained my crazy eyes.

    To be fair to Richard, I have to say that I have nothing but fond memories of him and those times.
    Man, those were magical times!

    So, it is with these memories in mind that I truly thank all the old school guys like Dr Greenthumb that had the foresight to keep these strains alive.

    Hail to Richard E!

    Hail to the 1970s!

    Hail to Greenthumb Seeds!

    Hail to second chances!

    Here we go…..




    I believe flower time on these will be no less 11 weeks so I plan to put them in at around 9 inches tall to avoid ridiculous amounts of stretch. I will also top at the 2nd node which will also reduce stretch and produce 4 main colas.

    I will be using pro-mix and doing the flood to waste method as usual.

    Veg under 400-800 watts of MH.
    Flower under 1800 watts of HPS (vertical)

    Any questions, please feel free…..


    I included a shot Doc sent me of some finished PR. It looks just as I imagined.
    For the pure Sativa lovers like myself out there, this is a god send.


    I started 3 of them. The larger one is 4 days older.
     

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    Dr Gruber

    Dr Gruber Well-Known Member

    Progress....
     

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    RichRoots

    RichRoots Well-Known Member

    Looking good so far! Are those fem or regular seeds?
     
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    DeepToke97

    DeepToke97 Member

    Ohhh Man, this has the potential to be great! Subbed! I am still not sure if have ever smoked the real stuff...this is truly legendary pot..
     
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    farmerfischer

    farmerfischer Well-Known Member

    Awesome shit doc!, I've grown Panama (suposably) but not the Panama red.. Can't wait to see how she does for ya. Lucky fucker..lmao.
     
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    Dr Gruber

    Dr Gruber Well-Known Member

    They are Fems....

    The legend is back!

    How did you like the panama you grew?
     
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    farmerfischer

    farmerfischer Well-Known Member

    It's was really good. It didn't grow hog buds, just lots of nuggets..
    The taste was very classic sativa ( black pepper and a sleight hashy taste) a very motivative high yet you could still chill and relax if one wanted.how ever some people would get painoid and ancy . A very talkative Buzz as well. I have a pic some where, I'll post it if I can find it. It was hard to hit the ceiling with it, which is one of the things I liked about it,so no tolerance build up. Great for the connisur but not for commercial growers in my opinion.
     
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    farmerfischer

    farmerfischer Well-Known Member

    Here she is ( Panama ) I grew her three years ago.. Shit pics though , I believe I took These at the end of IMG_20150817_153831.jpg august . IMG_20150817_153937.jpg
    This was one plant ,I topped it a few Times. She got about ten and ahalf foot tall.
     
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    Dr Gruber

    Dr Gruber Well-Known Member

    Where do you live that PR can finish outdoors?

    Your description sounds very good to me!
     
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    Dr Gruber

    Dr Gruber Well-Known Member

    They've all been topped. It should be 5-7 days until flower.
     

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    whytewidow

    whytewidow Well-Known Member

    Why would you start flowering them small? Are you not concerned with any type of yield? Or are you wanting a quick run in and out? Just curious
     
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    RichRoots

    RichRoots Well-Known Member

    Not doing the air pots anymore?
     
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    Dr Gruber

    Dr Gruber Well-Known Member

    They are full sativas and will be in flower about 14-16 weeks. They have the potential to stretch beyond my limits. A few years ago I started a different full sativa at 9 inches. It ended up 6.5 feet tall.

    I didn't use them for the 1 gallon size but they are in 5 gallon air pots now.
    Also, I'm starting to feel they are a pain in the ass to clean.
     
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    Dr Gruber

    Dr Gruber Well-Known Member

    Plants one and two are in the flower room. Tomorrow will be day one.

    P1 is about a week older then 2 and 3.
    P3 is a little smaller so i decided to give it a few more days.
     

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    farmerfischer

    farmerfischer Well-Known Member

    It never finished all the the way. Probably could of gone 3-4 more weeks.
     
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    farmerfischer

    farmerfischer Well-Known Member

    It didn't finish in time. Probably had 3 weeks to go. This year I'm trying malawi gold , 0821171259.jpg but I'm going to try and finish it in a green house. So far no preflowers yet.. 0821171259a.jpg
     
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    whytewidow

    whytewidow Well-Known Member

    Yeah I knew they were full sativa. I just wasn't sure why you were flowering so early. But.i understand. I have a hybrid. Pineapple Express V2. That is sativa dom. And it stretched me out of tent. In a 2ft x 4ft x 5.5ft but i vegged it for like 70 days roughly lol. Way way too long. It's huge. I can't even zip the tent back up. It's stretched over 3 feet so far. And only on day 14. I hope it's done stretching.
     
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    morgwar

    morgwar Well-Known Member

    First of all Dr Gruber I've been watching your grows on different sites and love your work! Much respect and appreciation for what its worth from a grumpy old bear.
    Congrats on finding her and kudos on the grow.
    Welcome, good luck, and good hunting!
     
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    Dr Gruber

    Dr Gruber Well-Known Member

    Thank you for the feedback.
    I need a little positive attitude in my life right now. I've been spending some time on boxing forums with the big fight that just happened and all.
    If you think its negative on MJ forums, don't even bother going to a boxing site.
     
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    Dr Gruber

    Dr Gruber Well-Known Member

    All 3 plants are in flower now.
    Pictures to come.....
     
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