So I pinched the top of one of the colas that my plant has begun making in hope that it could add some weight/size to that bud. And also as an experiment to see if that cola does indeed get bigger or smaller as a result. So I did it yesterday and now where I pinched the top of the bud off it is starting to turn brown. is this normal as it recovers or might I have caused a problem. I can upload pics if needed but it pretty much just looks like the areas which were previously inside the bud and are now exposed to the air are drying out and turning brown. Anyone ever done this before, thanks!
Pinching top of buds (Backbuilding) technique
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SouthCross
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Ever think the technique is one big troll to get you to mess up plants?
I've heard a lot of good about it and everything negative doesn't really seem to come from anyone who's actually tried it.
I've got a single plant that's pretty evenly split into 5 colas and some of the pistils on one cola were starting to look a little brown so I decided I would give it a try because for one the pistils were not looking healthy and secondly I thought it a good opportunity to compare what this form of "training" does vs the pinched colas. Ill update this with pics when the plant is done if people are interested. Ill be taking pics as it progresses
I've got a single plant that's pretty evenly split into 5 colas and some of the pistils on one cola were starting to look a little brown so I decided I would give it a try because for one the pistils were not looking healthy and secondly I thought it a good opportunity to compare what this form of "training" does vs the pinched colas. Ill update this with pics when the plant is done if people are interested. Ill be taking pics as it progresses
Dutchieman420
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This technique is something I have been doing for years, I'm sure you have noticed but pinching the very tip make whatever cola is pinched mature much quicker, wether it makes the plant bigger or not is debated. But like you are saying the damage "just the pinched tip" will turn if it isn't clipped within about a week. This will also result in a quick change in color of pistils on entire cola.
Dutchieman420
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It's really good for when you are planning on topping your plants and they are already in flower if you pinch the very tip of the bud wait a few days or a week or so and then when you take that branch because of the pinching it has matured a lot more than if you hadn't it's a late topping technique
This appears to be true the pinched bud site looks to be a lot more filled with trichomes, phone is just charging the pic will be up in an hour or so
Dutchieman420
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I honestly have no clue why this isn't discussed more. It may be because most people's wanna grow quick weed. This is not true for myself I don't really mind and will intentionally manipulate the early budding stage to be longer.
What I am rfrencing here is pinching around half of the tips of mostly primary and secondary s. Doing this to sativa plants at this stage "correct orchistration" will give you a bigger plant.
So all in all pinching tips can be quite helpful
What I am rfrencing here is pinching around half of the tips of mostly primary and secondary s. Doing this to sativa plants at this stage "correct orchistration" will give you a bigger plant.
So all in all pinching tips can be quite helpful
Flowki
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If the negatives only come from those who have not tried it then those who have must realize it does work. The reason my BS alarm is ringing is because if this is the case then why is it so hard to link proof of the gains other than growers word. This is one of a few threads on the topic and not one of them have provided anything useful at all. I'm not being a skeptic for the sake of it but you guys are genuinely giving no solid proof what so ever for any grower to even consider this outside of complete curiosity.
It needs to be done on a bigger side by side scale, not just a few buds from the same plant. You need to tally up end weights because density can mess up your ''appears to be bigger''. You need to quantify the budding delay on a full plant. Days, weeks?.. does that extended flower time offset potential yield increase?. You'd also have to go get the buds lab checked if you are going to claim it does anything in regard to potency.
Opposing my intuitive belief that topping buds slows maturity, this comment suggests topping buds speeds up maturity. You can't make claims like this as fact and show no evidence. You would also be required to get those buds tested to make sure the faster maturity rates (if true) don't reduce potency
I'm not being an ass honestly.. but you guys need to try harder.
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Dutchieman420
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The difference is in the timing. I didn't even read what you posted to be honest and you can do whatever you want with your on pot.. I grow marijuana ,farm for a living if my explanation is lacking I apologize I'm new at the whole "sharing techniques". Yes the same technique is used for both purposes the only part of the plant that matures quicker is the affected branch. Light changes also change the plants reaction.
Innovation comes through experimentation
When yo have a surplus at your disposal at times it can be helpful to do a wide variety of different things even if you only learn something .I believe there's a lot of worth in that
Flowki
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When ever you damage a bud you do run a risk of creating rot or other issues, especially if humidity is high and/or canopy air flow is not good enough (24/7). This may not be the case for you, just pointing that out.
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Flowki
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You stated you didn't read my post and then continued to create text for me to read?. It was difficult, not going to lie.. but with not being an ignorant so and so I did read on.
You are more than entitled to experiment and give opinion on results but you are not entitled to state your own findings as fact when you don't provide proof. I mean you can, and obviously you have.. as you have the right to exercise freedom of speech and as you've shown, freedom to ignore opposition.
Again I am not trying to be a dick, I am actually trying to help you guys. If you are trying to share and convince people this technique works you need to show them actual proof and not just ''trust me'' while shunting questions/skepticism with ignorance.
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Dutchieman420
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Lol ok buddy.. I was having a convo with dude, go burn one n try to relax lil bit pls. not everyone is trying to convince the masses about anything at all really .
If it helps ur blood pressure i amend what I said to an opinion
If it helps ur blood pressure i amend what I said to an opinion
Rasta Roy
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Anecdotal science like this is why the agriculture and horticulture industry don't take cannabis growers seriously. What you're doing is killing the bud and making it die/sort of ripen early. This might induce a slight swell from where it was before you pinched it...but this is at the cost of trichome, terpine, and resin development. Topping and pinching (or super cropping) your main colas when you're still in veg before buds develop can increase yield. Pruning out small lower buds can increase the yield of top colas. Pinching your main buds in flower? You are just stopping production of what's going on inside the plant, maybe the outside looks like it swells to you, but I can promise you, with all assurance, that you are not increasing yield or potency by doing this.
I 100% respect the spirit of what you're doing, experimenting and hunger for trying new things is the funnest part of growing. I've tried everything under the sun myself! But this technique is not what you think it is.
I 100% respect the spirit of what you're doing, experimenting and hunger for trying new things is the funnest part of growing. I've tried everything under the sun myself! But this technique is not what you think it is.
Dutchieman420
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This is why I would only suggest this if you A. Know you are about to top a plant considerably, and want a temporary isolated area to mature 'quicker' ad B. You intend on intentionally stunting a plant for a looonger life cycle
lst and super cropping are the only way to go in my opinion no matter the grow. I supercropping no matter what and is a great alternative to topping, with experience topping is often beneficial but not an always
Roger A. Shrubber
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wheres the pics?
Dutchieman420
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Flowki
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If I used a profile pic would that have increased the likelihood of you validating my opinion rather than insult and insinuation. Or was it merely your interpretation of the name rasta boy and what ever it implied to you, that encouraged your more diplomatic side to show face?. He did post quite eloquently though, but if that is the measure you should be ignoring me and your self alike.
Since you already have a buzz for me I might as well be the one who says it. Those plants show not a single gram of convincing evidence.
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Dutchieman420
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I have no problem with you man profile pic or not your alright by me man
Lightgreen2k
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Interesting that I am seeing this thread. I hear you on pinching the top of your buds.
I have actually topped the tops of my buds. I did this a week ago; to half of my plants. To break it down evem more I have four main colas per plant. Two of them have been topped and the other two left alone...
are you actually topping and cutting off the top part of the bud, or just pinching it..