Plant nodes too small

Hi I am new to growing and don't really know if this is normal. The two plants are about 6-7 weeks old and the plant that was growing faster than the other has seemed to slow down and stop producing nodes. The plant seems to be just growing taller and leafy. The other plant that took awhile to grow as surpassed the other by far and producing new stems and branches all over. Should I be worried? I transplanted them last week from they're solo cups into 4 gallon pots. I am using foxfarm oceans forrest fertilizer. Why did that plant slow down and stop producing? The strand is mangolicious btw. Any insight would be great thanks!
 

GoRealUhGro

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I'm not really much of an indoor grower..but I usually start mine inside and then go out..and I usually just use CFLs and once I had a lil t5...and my nodes were always about an in , in and a half apart...idk what kinda light u have and tbh I'm not familiar w many lights but iv always noticed the main prob w long spacing is the light being too far away ..making them stretch ..I out my lights as close as possible w.o hurting anything...like I'm taking a couple inches..and u might wanna make a lil box or put them next to the wall with some reflective material around ...
 

Punk

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Hi, The simple answer is, No. You shouldn't be worried about these observations.

I'm assuming you're growing these from seeds? In which case, it's expected that the plants will vary in many ways at different points during their growth cycle...ways that can easily be noticed by a new grower, even if you're growing the same strain.(different Phenotypes) Plus, there's growth differences between males and females, so be sure you can tell the difference as early as possible...and by 6 weeks you should be able to.
 
Thanks for responding but my problem isn't stretching. I didn't describe it very clearly. The problem is the plant isn't producing at the nodes. The better of the two plants is growing new branches everyday seems like at the nodes and the foliage at the spot is nice growth. The troubled plant isn't growing any new branches, at the nodes there's just two very tiny leaves all the way up the plant, plant is growing at at good rate but it's just getting taller and new sets of leaves. There's not really any new growth at each set of leaves going up the plant. The other plant just looks way better. I don't understand why it isnt growing any new foliage like the other plant
 
Thanks punk, both of the plants are female. Did you see my photos in my first post, the difference between the two? I'm sure it will be fine like you said I just think it's weird that the same strain can grow so differently. I'm just hoping it catches up and starts growing new branches
 

GoRealUhGro

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Well honestly it does look like u have a stretching prob to me...you want those node spaces tight as u can ..an in or 2 if u can...I see what u are saying with the growth between the two...and like stated above males grow diff..they are sometimes more lanky or just taller..they grow and develop faster most of the time also..as I'm sure u know..so this could also be a factor..but honestly it looks like u should have more growth at the nodes on the lesser plant..I think I would do some light adjusting for one..put more lights and or reflective material..put them as close as u can also...idk what you are growing in..feeding...or how often u water and how u water...all could slow growth ..they look stretched and like they are needing a lil more of something ..or a lil less lol..but dont think I'm putting u down please..I'm just trying to help
 

GoRealUhGro

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Thanks punk, both of the plants are female. Did you see my photos in my first post, the difference between the two? I'm sure it will be fine like you said I just think it's weird that the same strain can grow so differently. I'm just hoping it catches up and starts growing new branches
If it is from seed.. both..like said u could very well have diff phenos and they will grow different for sure...iv had 4 diff phenos of the same strain from 4 seeds ...I know they all looked diff and grew diff anyways...some faster .. one of .the indica dominant strain was the faster of them
 
No I don't think you are putting me down, I'm new to growing and could use all the help I can get. I did start them from seeds, I had them under T5 sunblaze fluorescent light, about 4 days ago I transplanted them into 4 gallon pots from solo cup. Now they are under 1000 watt LED. I'll get some reflective material and try that, I just think it's weird that one plant is 2/3 larger than the other with no issues.
 

GoRealUhGro

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No I don't think you are putting me down, I'm new to growing and could use all the help I can get. I did start them from seeds, I had them under T5 sunblaze fluorescent light, about 4 days ago I transplanted them into 4 gallon pots from solo cup. Now they are under 1000 watt LED. I'll get some reflective material and try that, I just think it's weird that one plant is 2/3 larger than the other with no issues.
1000 watt LED..if I'm not mistaken..is pretty awesome for growing...Im not much on lights so idk..but I think u should be able to grow some killer plants w that..and very tight ones..node wise..how far away is the light from the plant....and can I ask what u are growing in...what u use for fert..and how u water..like how do u determine when to water and when u do how much....oh btw...one thing I like doing is going from a solo to a 1 gal pot ...it makes a good root ball...then I go to my 4 and 5s...also u might of had some shock when transplanting on the one plant....also if u grow organic I would get some plant success soluble to use when transplanting...and some granular..u can get better kinda but this is what I use...also I would get some aloe plants and use them in a watering after transplanting..this helps w shock some
 
Awesome thanks for g tips. I am growing in fox farm oceans Forrest soil, supposed to have a lot of good organic stuff in it like kelp and worm casting and bunch of other stuff. The owner of the hydroponic store told me that is all I needed no other fertilizers for about 8 weeks unless I transplant again. I buy water that has good PH levels and I test every gallon just to make sure even if it's same brand. I just recently transplanted from solo cup to 4 gallon pot. The owner of the hydroponic store I've been buying from told me to start in solo cup the. Go 1 gallon then 4 gallon but he also said that step wasn't that important you can go straight to 4 Falon from solo cup. I had a lot of really nice roots when I transplanted. But you are right transplant shock could definitely be a thing. I really don't want to change up growing conditions if the one of the two plants is thriving.
 

GoRealUhGro

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Ff is good but it needs more than what is just in it after a much shorter time that they say imo...and btw growing organic u don't need to pH anything..one of the many cool things that goes w organics...make sure if u are buying water u bubble it..stir it..and or let it sit out for a day or two to get the chlorine out of it...that shit defeats everything that organics is about ..which is the microbes tbh...I wouldn't pay any mind to those hydro dudes...I would make your own soil mix next time around ...u can use the ff as a base too ..even w a heavily amended soil..much more amended than ff of ..still needs help getting through...
 

GoRealUhGro

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Also make sure u have a good watering schedule...don't water until the pots become dry..but don't make your plant get all droopy..then once you have a dry pot..water it completely..until you get it draining from the bottom...it will drain out a lot at first when it's really dry..so don't count that
 
Yeah I'm definitely going to make a soil blend next time around. I was just excited to start growing the seeds as soon as I got them. I'm looking at liquid nutrient fertilizers now. Thanks for the advice I appreciate it
 

GoRealUhGro

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Yeah I'm definitely going to make a soil blend next time around. I was just excited to start growing the seeds as soon as I got them. I'm looking at liquid nutrient fertilizers now. Thanks for the advice I appreciate it
Hey man..I'm not busting your balls..but stay away from liquid frets...I have all the ff and bush doctor liquid and it just sits on a shelf..you want dry frets..and next time u want to mix them in your soil...I would get some all purpose mix for this time around ...something like happy frog all purpose would be a. Good one...and I would maybe get some Peruvian sea bird guano... along w some ewc ...buy u a lil bit of compost too and w the ewc u can make a good microbial tea...along w a couple other things...I bet money if u get more diversity in your soil you will quickly realize u don't need this or that.. or u will see what u do need much easier...plus your plans will be much better...maybe look into making a lacto serum ..u need more microbial activity in that soil
 

GoRealUhGro

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You are heading in the right direction buddy...and def do not think u can just do this or that and it'll be better than a good soil mix with a lot of diversity...if u can I would start a compost pile asap...a worm bin too
 

GoRealUhGro

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No..u can top dress w dry ferts buddy..but u want to get your microbial habitat going to break them ferts down quicker ..get your stuff u need to make some good microbial tea...or a lacto..both honestly..but definitely get some microbial tea going...top dress w some ewc and compost too....
 

GoRealUhGro

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I would top dress and also make a Nute tea..not to be confused w a microbial tea..2 diff things for two diff purposes...a micro tea is also called a aact..I just prefer microbial tea beacuse I think it puts more stress on what it really should be lol...ppl like to defeat the purpose of a micro tea by adding nutes..which actually just slow down or stops microbial growth aanyway and u don't get the benefits..so make them separately lol..I'll help u with a good recipe or u can look here... www.microbeorganics.com and u can learn the good facts on how to build the. Best brewers and make good recipes...
 

Lucky Luke

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Its normal for diff phenos of the same strain to express themselves differently. This is one of the reasons that people often do a large seed run and then pick the Mother plant that best suites them. You are seeing this.
However you are also getting stretching IMO.
I understand your light is marketed at 1000w. I think its a marketing gimmick. Cheaper LEDs are often marketed as "Equivalent"- Which is in 99.9% of cases- bullshit. What brand and model of light is it and if you have the relevant info what does it say it draws at the wall and at what hight are you running it from the top of your canopy?
 
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