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Please Help! Stage 4 Liver and Pancreatic Cancer

Discussion in 'Medical Marijuana Patients' started by Joe Arsenault, Jan 13, 2017.

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    Joe Arsenault

    Joe Arsenault New Member

    Hey everyone , i just have a few questions for anyone out there that has been through a similar situation as mine.

    I have been battling stage 4 liver and pancreatic cancer for 3 months now. Instead of the conventional methods I have chose to use Rick Simpson Oil as my primary treatment and have recently began vitamin c and Alpha Lapoic Acid IV treatments twice a weak as well.

    I slowly and progressively raised my doses of Rick Simpson Oil until I had reached 1.25grams a day, and I've now consumed close to 65grams of the oil since diagnoses.

    I'm currently dealing with extreme levels of nausea, loss of appetite, weight loss, and pain in my lower body, all of which I am having trouble alleviating.

    Has anyone out there reading this been through a similar situation and can help give me some advice, feedback or information on how you treated your illness and conditions ?

    Thank you in advance to anyone who spent the time to read my post and I appreciate any help I can get, thank you take care.
     
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    ttystikk

    ttystikk Well-Known Member

    The closest I can come to your situation is unfortunately no closer than seeing cancer patients using cannabis to alleviate the side effects of chemo. It was no cure but it made them feel a lot better.

    I wish I had more specific advice for you. Good luck and well wishes.
     
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    MMJ Dreaming 99

    MMJ Dreaming 99 Well-Known Member

    take a look at Dr. Simoncini's baking soda regime. I am not sure it works but there are lots of vieos on you tube. Cancer likes sugar aka acids. Cancer hates alkeline aka baking soda. You mix mollasses or pancake syrup with baking soda so they bind. The cancer sucks up the sugar but gets alkilinity.

    https://www.cancertutor.com/simoncini/
     
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    ovo

    ovo Well-Known Member

    perhaps diversify the inputs on the oil. assuming you don't make your own oil, consider obtaining samples prepared from different thc/cbd profiles and maybe that will vary the effects.
     
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    gb123

    gb123 Well-Known Member

    I have never heard of anyone suffering from lower body pain from RSO, like you have described. Did the pain start after the oil treatment? Where are you getting it from?
    I only know that on a 1.50 grams myself, I felt great once up to that dose. Getting there was a ride though. You can keep uping your dose..you dont have to stop at a gram a day!!!!!!!!!!!


    Have you tried using sups as well? Coconut oil and canna oil mixed 3:1 will give you 250 mg caps which you can toss in the freezer or fridge, which get popped out of the gel cap and inserted only an inch up the wazzo. (:

    ... I ate well over 300 grams in order to shrink a tumor and I still eat it every day, just for maintenance. :|
     
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    BarnBuster

    BarnBuster Virtually Unknown Member

    Hi Joe,

    Welcome to RIU and sending prayers your way.
     
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    whitebb2727

    whitebb2727 Well-Known Member

    I don't know about the whole mixing the baking soda and sugar products. I don't think that's how it works.

    You actually want to change the body's pH to alkaline.

    Just search alkaline body to kill cancer.

    Good luck and prayers with you.
     
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    whitebb2727

    whitebb2727 Well-Known Member

    That is mainly for digestive cancers or cancers where you can actually apply baking soda.

    Other cancers they want to inject it.

    Making the body alkaline works. You do that through diet.
     
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    NEEDMMASAP

    NEEDMMASAP Well-Known Member

    Hi Joe , so sorry to hear about your situation , hopefully we can help each other , I am trying to help my brothers wife , she has pancreatic cancer , the doctors have told her that they can do no more to help her and she has 3 months or less to live , she has been to 2 other doctors and got the same results , one did say 3 to 6 months . we have found one person who was willing to sell her some RSO infused carnal candy and maybe a source that will sell us some bud so we can make our own oil , I just ordered some of that Alpha Lapoic Acid you mentioned from Amazon , You said you are now having problems with " nausea, loss of appetite, weight loss, and pain in my lower body," I have been doing a lot of reading on the RSO and your results seem different than the results I see being posted by others , Are you making your own oil? and if so what process do you use ? and how do you take it ? Do you know how much THC and or CBD is in a gram of the oil you are taking ? You can PM me if you would like ,
     
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    imamalmahdi

    imamalmahdi Member

    Guerson cure work for sure do it
     
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    gb123

    gb123 Well-Known Member

    from what I hear,,,you cant raise your body blood acidity...and thats what needs to be done...
    rather be ingesting as much THC filled oil as possible myself but thats just me
     
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    HerbalRelief

    HerbalRelief Well-Known Member

    Not knocking the RSO, I know many that have tried it and found it effective. But also, have you read about apricot seed kernels? The active ingredient is known as B17. I recommend this video to explain why the B-17 Amygdalin/Laetrile works and is ONLY poisonous to cancer cells, not healthy cells (it contains a form of cyanide that is released only in the presence of cancer cells). You only eat as many seeds as you would real fruit a day (and in fact you should eat the fruit flesh too). I have personal experience with this as it was recommended to a friend who was sent home to die with 3 months to live, and that was over a year ago (and given no drugs obviously other than pain meds). Her tumor shrunk 90% and the doctor could not believe it. So anyways that is my personal anecdote and maybe it will help you. I hope you start feeling better.
     
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    Heisenberg

    Heisenberg Well-Known Member

    "Answer by David Chan, MD from UCLA, Stanford oncology fellowship:

    I believe in treating cancer with anything that works. Show me that something works, and I'll use it. Period.

    But don't give me a story of how someone's aunt's best friend was told that she had six months to live and was cured by taking a natural supplement found through the Internet and is still alive 10 years later—and then ask me to give the OK to try it.

    Some cancer patients have the great misfortune of having a cancer that is very advanced or poorly treatable by anything. For them, it doesn't make a great deal of difference what they do, with the exception of some considerable out-of-pocket expenses if they see someone particularly unscrupulous.

    But I've seen my share of patients with very curable cancers who elected to go the "natural" or the "holistic" or the "alternative" route and then come back to see me with an advanced incurable disease. That's really tough to swallow for them and for me.

    Don't give me anecdotes. Show me the data. Give me 200 to 300 patients with biopsy-proven cancers. Yes, biopsy-proven. Because I see patients all the time who are told they have cancer, but when the biopsy is finally done, it's something else. Let a computer select half of them to get the "natural" regimen and the other half to get standard cancer treatment. No, that's not remotely fair to patients. How about giving all of them the best standard treatment and then having the computer select half of them to also have the "natural" regimen? Will it have any positive effect?

    Show me the results. If the "natural" stuff works, I and most other cancer specialists will use it.

    No one likes surgery, radiation therapy, or chemotherapy. But advances have made all of these treatments more effective and more tolerable. These treatments have scientific proof behind them. Don't give into magical thinking."

    http://www.slate.com/blogs/quora/20...take_on_alternative_and_natural_regimens.html
     
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    gb123

    gb123 Well-Known Member

    Oil works. Try it. I did,
    Nuff said,
    Beats dying for a business!!!!.
     
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    Heisenberg

    Heisenberg Well-Known Member

    "It worked for me!' is not a valid criteria for judging any medical intervention. People say that rubbing a toad on a wart made it go away. People say that drinking lemon juice cured their diabetes. There is no treatment, no matter how silly or implausible, for which we cannot find someone somewhere to say "it worked for me!"

    Even if it did work for you, that doesn't mean it will work for everyone. Cancer is not one disease, but a category of diseases, each with its own ultimate and proximate causes. Even a single tumor can be a collection of different diseases, and every person has their own lifestyles, genetics and progressions that make their cancer unique.

    So while I'm glad that you are, apparently, cancer free, pointing it out is hardly "nuff said." It naive, irresponsible and callus. People aren't pawns in your conspiracy theory. Implying that cancer is merely a business is nothing more than cynicism.
     
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    chemphlegm

    chemphlegm Well-Known Member

    know that while a constant ph monitor is used one can see your body ph can and will change according to much more than diet.
    for instance, and true, an alkaline body will go acidic instantly with negative emotions, pain, and even while reading the politics section here. Literally can be changed from alkaline to acidic as easy as changing channels. total mind and body and spirit is necessary to keep that organ alkaline. Eating alkaline foods does near to nothing to prevent this from happening but there is alkaline exercise to keep it right.
    best of fortune to you and yours, and congratulations on your decision to take matters into your own hands
     
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    Tangerine_

    Tangerine_ Well-Known Member

    I'm hesitant to even reply to this thread, but feel its the right thing to do. Couple of things. I worked in the medical field for many yrs as a RN (Triage, Medsurg, Hospice etc) and as a Paramedic/EMS before early retirement. I've also had a child diagnosed with stage 3 embryonic carcinoma. I couldn't agree more with the statements you've posted. Every single point. Not just as a nurse but as a mother, who witnessed her teenage son go from a healthy strong sport lovin teen to a weakened sickened thin boy retching in constant pain. Its one of those indescribable feelings of helplessness that rocks you to the very core of your soul.
    There is no room for anecdotes when someone is faced with their own mortality.
    To the OP - With all my heart, I wish there were something more that could be done for people who've suffered with pancreatic cancer. Even with advances it remains one of the most grueling cancers and the most difficult to get the pain under control. I'm afraid the pain you're experiencing is going to need a much more aggressive approach with pain meds.
    I wish you all the best and do hope you find relief...in any form.
    Please feel free to PM me. I'm very hesitant to publically post much more...for personal and ethical reasons. I hope you understand.
     
    Last edited: Mar 19, 2017
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    heckler73

    heckler73 Well-Known Member

    It doesn't appear the OP has been back here since writing that message. Odd...
     
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    Indacouch

    Indacouch Well-Known Member

    Anyone heard from OP after his original post?

    Sure hope he's alright and all is well ....I grow for the handicap and cancer patients as well ....hopefully OP is doing ok .....GL OP
     
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    Indacouch

    Indacouch Well-Known Member

    I posted below you without reading what you posted .....hope he's doing alright ......hits real close to home reading his post .....people like him and the handicap are why I grow .....it's worrying not to hear anything since his OP ,,,especially after helping people like him for many many years now....we can only hope for the best for him .....
     
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