Pot or no pot?

SchmoeJoe

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OP, plastic pots can be found at most nurseries. Often for free. For autos, 3 or 5 gallons would be big enough. Sink the pots flush with the ground. Plant directly into the pots. Good luck
That restricts root growth lowering yields and also forces you to have to water a lot more.
 

too larry

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That restricts root growth lowering yields and also forces you to have to water a lot more.
Never done autos myself, but I've seen they do fine in smaller pots. I agree on photos, especially if you are trying to grow them big. I've always grown in the ground in the past, but did use pots this year. I used 5, 10, & 15's. But I planted late so the plants would stay smaller. No issues with watering, but then it did rain just about every day this summer.

I'm using the same pots for my spring crop.
 

SchmoeJoe

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Never done autos myself, but I've seen they do fine in smaller pots. I agree on photos, especially if you are trying to grow them big. I've always grown in the ground in the past, but did use pots this year. I used 5, 10, & 15's. But I planted late so the plants would stay smaller. No issues with watering, but then it did rain just about every day this summer.

I'm using the same pots for my spring crop.
I usually water my outdoor plants about once every 4-6 weeks.
 

too larry

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I usually water my outdoor plants about once every 4-6 weeks.
That is good water retention. I always have a few patches I call Darwin Dope. It's survival of the dankest. After I get them going, I pretty much leave them alone until it's time to check for males. Lots of mulch helps. In dry years you lose a few, but some years you get lucky with the weather and everything works out.
 

SchmoeJoe

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That is good water retention. I always have a few patches I call Darwin Dope. It's survival of the dankest. After I get them going, I pretty much leave them alone until it's time to check for males. Lots of mulch helps. In dry years you lose a few, but some years you get lucky with the weather and everything works out.
That's it. A big deep, planting bed with plenty of organic material and a good mulch layer to help with holding water.
 

too larry

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That's it. A big deep, planting bed with plenty of organic material and a good mulch layer to help with holding water.
I grow some in young planted pines, planting in the skips. When you plant pines in pasture land you have to "scalp" it first. That is to turn back a 12" strip of sod each way, so you have a ditch 24" wide and about 12-14" deep. I turn up the dirt in the bottom, then add my soil mix up to ground level. According to how long the skip is, you can do several plants. I do a lot of LOB {Lean Over, Baby} work on mine, so I will plant thicker than most do.
 

too larry

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That what I was gonna do but the 5 gal pots are like $3 a piece.
That is pretty tough. I've never had to pay for plastic pots. I got about 25 three gallon pots this year for free. I did give them a good mess of squash though.

If stealth is not a big deal, you can always use a kiddie pool. If you can find one this time of year, it's going to be cheap. I use the 45 gallon ones for my soil mixes, and I have grown veggies in them. No reason you couldn't put several plants in a pot that size.
 
That is pretty tough. I've never had to pay for plastic pots. I got about 25 three gallon pots this year for free. I did give them a good mess of squash though.

If stealth is not a big deal, you can always use a kiddie pool. If you can find one this time of year, it's going to be cheap. I use the 45 gallon ones for my soil mixes, and I have grown veggies in them. No reason you couldn't put several plants in a pot that size.
Ya good idea. For the pool do you inflate it?
 

too larry

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Ya good idea. For the pool do you inflate it?
You can get inflatable ones but I'd suggest the hard plastic ones.
What he said. Here is my soil mix. The pools are like 5 bucks if you catch them at the end of summer. This size will hold 40 gallons easily, or 45 if you are careful. Many folks use these for single photo plants. You get the width of a 200 gallon pot with way less soil. If you support your plant, it will grow a monster with out problems.

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too larry

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I have grown 4 really big tomato plants in a swimming pool. Also 10-12 pepper plants. I sink them level with the ground and make sure mulch is covering the outer rim, because the sun does break down the plastic pretty quick. Also helps with water retention.
 
What he said. Here is my soil mix. The pools are like 5 bucks if you catch them at the end of summer. This size will hold 40 gallons easily, or 45 if you are careful. Many folks use these for single photo plants. You get the width of a 200 gallon pot with way less soil. If you support your plant, it will grow a monster with out problems.

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I've seen them before. Aren't they really shallow and wouldn't that cause the plant not to grow well.
 

too larry

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I've seen them before. Aren't they really shallow and wouldn't that cause the plant not to grow well.
Wide is more important that deep. I bust a few holes in the bottom, so you could let the tap root go down that way.

If Tdub was still here he could show you his kiddie pool grow. Using bag soil and MG for ferts, he pulled around 3 units. Lots of other examples.
 

SchmoeJoe

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Wide is more important that deep. I bust a few holes in the bottom, so you could let the tap root go down that way.

If Tdub was still here he could show you his kiddie pool grow. Using bag soil and MG for ferts, he pulled around 3 units. Lots of other examples.
Yep, the feeder roots are the ones that grow out laterally and don't go very deep. It would still restrict root growth but the biggest difference would be having to water a lot more often.
 
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