president backs immoral seizure of property by law enforcement

Rob Roy

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^^ LOL. Your exaggeration makes a good point.

Roy continually searches for the exception to disprove a general rule. In this case, there is no exception to be found. 12 year old kids, no matter how exceptional haven't yet fully developed their brain. The areas of the brain associated with decision making and understanding future consequences aren't physically fully developed until the ages of 20 to 22. Which is why parents have the role of guiding the kid and responsibility for that kid's choices until they reach the age of majority.

Societies fall apart when they don't raise children into healthy adults. Sex at an early age affects development of the child's brain and can really fuck up that kid's life as an adult especially if the sexual relationship was abusive. Couple that with the early teen or child's poor ability to make decisions and recognize consequences and it becomes clear that society has a vested interest in protecting children and young adults from abuse. In most cases, the responsibility to protect and guide a child's development falls on the parents but other agencies are empowered to step in, especially when abuse is evident. Counter to Roy's strange and unnatural ideas about human social systems, protecting children from abuse is a necessary value in modern society.

That was actually not a bad post. I agree with some of it, especially the sentiment that children should be protected from predators.

How would you reconcile "society" protecting children who are unable to consent (a good thing) with forcing their parents without the parents consent to pay for government schools ? Isn't that sending the kids a message that "society" is a hypocrite?

Now mind you, I don't expect you to answer without conflation.
 

Justin-case

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That was actually not a bad post. I agree with some of it, especially the sentiment that children should be protected from predators.

How would you reconcile "society" protecting children who are unable to consent (a good thing) with forcing their parents without the parents consent to pay for government schools ? Isn't that sending the kids a message that "society" is a hypocrite?

Now mind you, I don't expect you to answer without conflation.

Why are you soooooooo cheap?
 
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Rob Roy

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So you are arguing semantics ?. To be clear maybe they shouldn't be in the position to give consent . Or we can establish what we mean by can't. The answer is in psychology and in human development and in the modern world there is no edit shit tabletccircumcercercumstascercerccercercumcecercercucer circumstances where it is ok for a 12 year old to be in a position to consent to sex with an adult. Personally I think if 2 kids 12 and up want to have sex that none of my business. I would question if they where if fact the same age or if ,..i mean and or maturity level. But the later is a matter for parents and big sisters not ththe gov.

Do you agree rob ?
I think what other people do may meet with my disapproval (and often does) but my disapproval doesn't necessarily create a license for me to intervene with initiatory force.

For instance if a person wanted to defecate on their own floor, I'd heartily disapprove, but I don't think I should forcibly stop them, if their actions were confined to themselves and their own property. The corollary to this idea is if that same person, shat upon MY floor, I would have every right to stop them.
 

Rob Roy

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Why are soooooooo cheap?
It's not a matter of "being cheap". It's a matter of principle, which might be why you fail to comprehend.

In real life I've done a good deal of voluntary charity and intend to continue. Charity doesn't come thru forcible extraction though, as they are opposing concepts.

Human relations which are involuntarily imposed should be held in the highest suspicion.
 

Justin-case

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It's not a matter of "being cheap". It's a matter of principle, which might be why you fail to comprehend.

In real life I've done a good deal of voluntary charity and intend to continue. Charity doesn't come thru forcible extraction though, as they are opposing concepts.

Human relations which are involuntarily imposed should be held in the highest suspicion.

I don't buy it, Rob. There are things to worry about in life, paying for other's educations isn't one of them. You're obsessed and extremely cheeeeeeaaaaaap!
 

Rob Roy

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I beat the brakes off a guy for just saying my daughter was pretty after finding out he was a sex offender.

I wouldn't let my 12 year old have sex. Period. Doesn't matter how mature he/she is.

I dont think I would allow my children to have sex before the age of 18. I might not be able to stop it. A couple of teenagers being teenagers is something different.

Sorry, I just don't see any situation a 12 year could consent to sex.

No long answer needed.
I appreciate that you want to protect your daughter.

If your daughter got pregnant via consensual sex at sixteen by the nice sixteen year old lad down the street, would you also assault the father of your grandchild ?

Also, to be clear, I am not advocating that 12 year olds engage in sex. I disapprove of that, due to my own bias.
 

Rob Roy

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I don't buy it, Rob. There are better things to worry about in life, paying for others education isn't one of them. You're obsessed and extremely cheeeeeeaaaaaap!

The underlying principle isn't "education" dunce.

It is, "do you or I or anyone else have the right to decide what another persons labor will be used for without their consent" ? If you disagree with me, you are advocating for a form of slavery.
 

Rob Roy

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You didn't choose to be born either, that made you a slave at conception, amiright?

Quit your constant whining, you little bitch.
No, you're wrong.

...and please for the sake of other family members wipe the keyboard down after you're done.
 

Justin-case

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So, if person A or group A uses force (or the threat of it) to determine what will happen with the output of the labor of person B or group B, it's not slavery Dunce?

I fucked myself earlier today and am still in afterglow mode...maybe later. When you take your fingers out of your ass perhaps you could type a coherent reply rather than an inane deflection?

If only you practiced, what you preach.
 

Rob Roy

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If only you practiced, what you preach.
Have you washed your hands yet?


Wrong,how? You chose to be born?

My apologies you were half wrong, half wit. Being born was not a choice, but being born isn't what makes a person a slave.

What enslaves another person is when people like you, forcibly remove their choice and dispose of the fruit of their labor as you see fit, rather than respecting the others person right to make peaceful choices.
 

Justin-case

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Rob is that dude that adds up what he's spent on the restaurant tab when hes with 10 people...and pays it to the cent...with no gratuity.

That's a lie, Rob doesn't have 10 people who'd sit with him and eat in public...

He probably brings 12 year olds who "consent" to it.

To the cent,lol. It's a matter of principle, dammit !
 

Rob Roy

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Rob is that dude that adds up what he's spent on the restaurant tab when hes with 10 people...and pays it to the cent...with no gratuity.

That's a lie, Rob doesn't have 10 people who'd sit with him and eat in public...

He probably brings 12 year olds who "consent" to it.

No, but I've frequently been the guy who throws in an extra 20 or two when people like you slink out early, you Sneeky Ninja, you.
 

Justin-case

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Translation : You can't address what I said, which succinctly pointed out your hypocrisy, so now you're crying.

Can you please be more imaginative in your insults too, "fuck you", is so, well, bland. Thank you.

Lol, if you lived like you say we all should, you would have an argument. But you don't, do you... fucking hypocrite. Once again, Gfy whiny bitch.
 

Rob Roy

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Point proven, thank you.
Now, how bad did you just want to post a meme just then?

Not as bas as I want to find my lighter, but pretty bad.

You're like a Sherlock Holmes with an oral fixation which can only be satisfied by sucking on a large pipe.
 
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