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Progressive Party **Official Thread**

Discussion in 'Politics' started by schuylaar, Nov 11, 2017.

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    tangerinegreen555

    tangerinegreen555 Well-Known Member

    They do.

    All your noise is bullshit.

    There's an ebb and flow to politics you obviously totally reject. But it's fucking there all the time.

    There's currently a racist overtone to the current regime. Trump won't sneak in the back door again. Just watch the turnout next year, people just don't approve. Period.

    I doubt he'll be around in 2020 to run at all. He'll fire Mueller and 20 republican senators will turn on him over night.

    Most of them never liked him to begin with.

    He'll be a footnote in history when you're 50.
     
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    Padawanbater2

    Padawanbater2 Well-Known Member

    Right, and how does calling them names help them realize that? When has that ever worked? Cite an example
     
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    SneekyNinja

    SneekyNinja Well-Known Member

    You can only make people reevaluate their positions if you make them realize they're retarded positions and that they appear retarded for holding them.
     
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    Padawanbater2

    Padawanbater2 Well-Known Member

    Then why didn't voters turn out for Clinton, African Americans in particular, to secure her the nomination against Trump? Someone you guys compare to Lucifer incarnate, especially in regards to minority issues..
     
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    Padawanbater2

    Padawanbater2 Well-Known Member

    How does calling someone a "fat, lonely, racist, sexist, cuck" make someone realize their positions are retarded?
     
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    Fogdog

    Fogdog Well-Known Member

    I do so look forward to watching how foregoing legal contributions from large private donors or corporate donors plays out in the primaries. Wouldn't it be great if the underfunded candidate wins because they did not accept donations?
     
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    Padawanbater2

    Padawanbater2 Well-Known Member

    When some of them do, you don't get to claim you always supported them, you just thought they couldn't win.. If you support them, you support them now, even if you think they can't win by opposing big money donors. That's how political support works.
     
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    tangerinegreen555

    tangerinegreen555 Well-Known Member

    Trump lost by 3 million. The election was a fucking fluke. It will likely never happen again. You couldn't recreate a perfect fire storm like that

    Of course, you can always repeat right wing radio noise and try to fuck it up.
     
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    UncleBuck

    UncleBuck Well-Known Member

    hey padaraper, is it true you've never cum inside a woman?
     
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    Fogdog

    Fogdog Well-Known Member

    I can't support any of them. None of them are running in my district. The only Congressman who is running in my district is Defazio and he's a progressive. As far as I know, he's not opposed by any Democrats. He does accept legal contributions, so I'm sure you hate him even though he supports every position you like. Except that one with the duct tape. I don't think he does that.
     
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    Fogdog

    Fogdog Well-Known Member

    There you go again, putting words in my mouth. I don't think the majority of the electorate cares if the candidate accepts legal donations from corporations or big money donors. If it's a good candidate up against a bad one, then they can win. But the campaign will revolve around healthcare, opposing Trump, local issues, jobs, stuff like that.
     
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    Fogdog

    Fogdog Well-Known Member

    has he ever had the opportunity?
     
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    Padawanbater2

    Padawanbater2 Well-Known Member

    So why didn't African Americans turnout for Clinton during the general election?

    You guys claimed African Americans were one of the main strategic demographics required to win the Democratic nomination, that Sanders failed to earn their votes, that Clinton beat him 4/1... yet they didn't show up for Clinton in high enough numbers during the general election, even against someone as racist as Trump...;

    From 538; Black Voters Aren’t Turning Out For The Post-Obama Democratic Party

    From CNN; How Hillary Clinton lost

    From Politico; Weak early voter turnout among African-Americans hurts Clinton in Florida
     
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    UncleBuck

    UncleBuck Well-Known Member

    maybe if you tell them they have a herd like mentality, resemble west african primates, don't have to work as hard as whites, and simply stop talking about racism then you will get them to turn out.
     
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    tangerinegreen555

    tangerinegreen555 Well-Known Member

    All the black people I associate with voted for Clinton. But they're all my age.

    Maybe the kids didn't vote. I bet they do next time.
     
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    Padawanbater2

    Padawanbater2 Well-Known Member

    I don't doubt they did, I'm sure 9 out of 10 African Americans voted for Clinton.. But how about the ones that didn't vote at all? You guys have spent months condemning Sanders for not proposing a political message that appealed to African Americans, even going so far as to claim this is why he lost the Democratic primary. Yet here we are now, with Clinton losing appeal to African Americans by their show of voter turnout. So what do you have to say about that now?

    You condemned Sanders for not appealing to minorities as reflected by the vote..

    Clinton received considerably fewer margins in regards to minority support than Obama as reflected by the only poll that matters, so what now? Why didn't the minorities you claimed wouldn't have voted for Sanders but would vote for Clinton in a general election vote for Clinton in the election? Especially against a racist opponent? One would think one side being so racist and all would have elicited massive voter turnout against it.. so why didn't it?
     
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    Fogdog

    Fogdog Well-Known Member


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    Two reasons

    1) Obama drew record high numbers because he motivated black people to come out and vote. Graphic above shows 2008 and 2012 black voter turnout was at record high numbers. Hillary did about as well as Bill did in '92;
    2) Voter suppression works. Inner city voters face long lines, fewer polling stations, inner city black people have less ability to leave work early to vote. Voter suppression is a real policy among Republican controlled states.
     
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    UncleBuck

    UncleBuck Well-Known Member

    you are aware there was a concerted disinformation campaign that microtargeted black voters in key swing states, right? and that the russian agents running that disinformation campaign had wild success doing this sort of thing before in the ukraine, crimea, and elsewhere, right?

    or do you just want to ignore facts when inconvenient?
     
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    Padawanbater2

    Padawanbater2 Well-Known Member

    How unbelievably racist of you to assume, specifically black voters are too ignorant to understand they're being used by a Russian propaganda campaign
     
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    SneekyNinja

    SneekyNinja Well-Known Member

    He needs more mention of duct tape or he's not interested.
     

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