Question About flushing

Hi there,

I have a few plants that are just finishing up and i have flushed them all for about 2 weeks. my indica plants look good and ready and will chop them shortly but the problem is i had some liberty haze plants from barneys farm which are advertised to finish in 8-9 weeks too but its total bullshit. i started flushing at the end of week 6 and now they are 8.5 weeks in but still look very white but all of my leaves are turning yellow from the flushing...

should i just continue flushing for another 2 weeks now or should i give them a blast of nutrients because I am sure they still have a while to go yet....?

Feed me.

lucasnooker said:

Hi there,

I have a few plants that are just finishing up and i have flushed them all for about 2 weeks. my indica plants look good and ready and will chop them shortly but the problem is i had some liberty haze plants from barneys farm which are advertised to finish in 8-9 weeks too but its total bullshit. i started flushing at the end of week 6 and now they are 8.5 weeks in but still look very white but all of my leaves are turning yellow from the flushing...

should i just continue flushing for another 2 weeks now or should i give them a blast of nutrients because I am sure they still have a while to go yet....?

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I personally stopped flushing , instead I do more of a organic grow. And only feed when the plant tells me it's needs something. I also try not to feed after 6.5 weeks but I have a sativa that goes long and the soil seems pretty used up. But we refer to it as fade instead of flush.

Peace

Bareback said:

I personally stopped flushing , instead I do more of a organic grow. And only feed when the plant tells me it's needs something. I also try not to feed after 6.5 weeks but I have a sativa that goes long and the soil seems pretty used up. But we refer to it as fade instead of flush.

Peace

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Cool. but because of flushing so early in the process I am inevitably going to lose yield now right? Even with extra feedings at this point will it bulk up my buds anymore? I will give them 1 or 2 feedings more and then flush again for final week. I feel like it should be done by week 10 but right now they look so premature still but all the leaves are dying off xD

Flushing is a big stoner myth. Save that shit for toilets. Your starving your plants they are pulling energy from the leaves which it just feeding the chemicals built up in them to the plant. Flushing does nothing except reduce bud size and thc levels of the end product.

lucasnooker said:

Cool. but because of flushing so early in the process I am inevitably going to lose yield now right? Even with extra feedings at this point will it bulk up my buds anymore? I will give them 1 or 2 feedings more and then flush again for final week. I feel like it should be done by week 10 but right now they look so premature still but all the leaves are dying off xD

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Got any photos?

lucasnooker said:

Cool. but because of flushing so early in the process I am inevitably going to lose yield now right? Even with extra feedings at this point will it bulk up my buds anymore? I will give them 1 or 2 feedings more and then flush again for final week. I feel like it should be done by week 10 but right now they look so premature still but all the leaves are dying off xD

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or, something went wrong before/after you flushed? are you growing hydro/bottled ferts? promix? rocks? dirt?

cool2burn said:

Flushing is a big stoner myth. Save that shit for toilets. Your starving your plants they are pulling energy from the leaves which it just feeding the chemicals built up in them to the plant. Flushing does nothing except reduce bud size and thc levels of the end product.

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unless you grow hydro style.....you ever tasted dried buds that were fed bottled nitrogen/ferts to the end of flower? yuck!
you'd have to cure those flowers for months and months just to smoke them . If you follow the directions of those hydro bottles though, they show a fade, not a flush, using a little less as the plant is finishing. a flush is part of the hydro style during different stages of growth pure water should be flushed to rinse the substrate of excess salt buildup.

chemphlegm said:

unless you grow hydro style.....you ever tasted dried buds that were fed bottled nitrogen/ferts to the end of flower? yuck!
you'd have to cure those flowers for months and months just to smoke them . If you follow the directions of those hydro bottles though, they show a fade, not a flush, using a little less as the plant is finishing. a flush is part of the hydro style during different stages of growth pure water should be flushed to rinse the substrate of excess salt buildup.

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Again you do not get the way plant science works. When you start to cut off nutes the plant switches to the fan leaves to produse glucose which are already built up with the same nutes. They are the plants entire building blocks. Flushing does nothing to stop this. Someone quoted earlier and i though it was good so ill repeat. It is like eating cheeseburgers your entire life and thinking drinking a couple bottles or filtered water will flush you clean. It just does not work that way.

Well i guess too little too late xD I will learn for next time i suppose. I grow in coco coir mixed with perlite btw. I will see if i can get some pictures posted later when i go to feed them. the indicas are about ready for the chop so no problem there but I feel like i am going to sacrifice the weight and quality of my sativas because they still have at least 2 weeks to go im sure :S Will give them a blast of nutrients later tonight and see how they respond tomorrow... but much of the damage has already been done by now i assume and there will be no getting back the yield i once could of had from them....

lucasnooker said:

Well i guess too little too late xD I will learn for next time i suppose. I grow in coco coir mixed with perlite btw. I will see if i can get some pictures posted later when i go to feed them. the indicas are about ready for the chop so no problem there but I feel like i am going to sacrifice the weight and quality of my sativas because they still have at least 2 weeks to go im sure :S Will give them a blast of nutrients later tonight and see how they respond tomorrow... but much of the damage has already been done by now i assume and there will be no getting back the yield i once could of had from them....

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You might be surprised it's called weed for reason

cool2burn said:

Again you do not get the way plant science works. When you start to cut off nutes the plant switches to the fan leaves to produse glucose which are already built up with the same nutes. They are the plants entire building blocks. Flushing does nothing to stop this. Someone quoted earlier and i though it was good so ill repeat. It is like eating cheeseburgers your entire life and thinking drinking a couple bottles or filtered water will flush you clean. It just does not work that way.

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you ever watch nature outdoors? same thing happens with my grapes, my apples, peaches, berries, its all the same/. As their season closes, their resources are diminished, they finish, perfectly formed, great brix readings, and I dont need to flush anything there either.

feed your tomato some nitrogen the week you harvest, then come on back and tell me all about that awesome flavor yours has? doing so will totally explain what I speak of. dont do it to all though, just ruin one for lessons

lucasnooker said:

Well i guess too little too late xD I will learn for next time i suppose. I grow in coco coir mixed with perlite btw. I will see if i can get some pictures posted later when i go to feed them. the indicas are about ready for the chop so no problem there but I feel like i am going to sacrifice the weight and quality of my sativas because they still have at least 2 weeks to go im sure :S Will give them a blast of nutrients later tonight and see how they respond tomorrow... but much of the damage has already been done by now i assume and there will be no getting back the yield i once could of had from them....

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You may have lost a little yield but you learned a lot.

Besides the important question here is are you harvesting from the seed company claims or from the trichomes.

chemphlegm said:

you ever watch nature outdoors? same thing happens with my grapes, my apples, peaches, berries, its all the same/. As their season closes, their resources are diminished, they finish, perfectly formed, great brix readings, and I dont need to flush anything there either.

feed your tomato some nitrogen the week you harvest, then come on back and tell me all about that awesome flavor yours has? doing so will totally explain what I speak of. dont do it to all though, just ruin one for lessons

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How are resources diminished from trees?

KryptoBud said:

How are resources diminished from trees?

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Anything is possible in stoner myth land lol

I have always backed off the strength of what I feed my plants the last couple weeks because they just don't need as much, but that isn't flushing.. also, using excessive feeding of N during late flower as an example of the negative results of feeding late into flower is a bit disingenuous. Anybody who has ever grown any fruiting plant knows that most don't need much N during flower anyway. Now if you could show that feeding normal amounts of P and K caused the same detrimental effects on flavor you'd have my attention.

KryptoBud said:

How are resources diminished from trees?

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cool2burn said:

Anything is possible in stoner myth land lol

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Sunlight is a resource that is diminished during the end of tree farm season
Insect frass, bird turds, fungal activity/breakdown, beneficial beasts are all necessary resources,
in fact also diminished as the growing season ceases here.
How are they diminished? earth rotation/bird migration/seasonal temperatures I would guess .

In my garden, organically fed by me, I dont fold in rabbit poop in the last week of veggies finishing either.
I've found feeding veggies to the end makes beautiful flowers and fruits, that have an off taste.

I've found when growing hydroponically feeding full ppm's to the end also produces an off taste, mush worse than when organic compost is used, even hot compost in the end

poop in at the start of flower, poop in mid way. the end, water only from there. pretty similar to the outdoor garden, call that whatever you like, but why argue the preferences, do it your own way and rock the world man!

People seem to think they're giving some foreign substance to plants that doesn't belong there.

NanoGadget said:

I have always backed off the strength of what I feed my plants the last couple weeks because they just don't need as much, but that isn't flushing.. also, using excessive feeding of N during late flower as an example of the negative results of feeding late into flower is a bit disingenuous. Anybody who has ever grown any fruiting plant knows that most don't need much N during flower anyway. Now if you could show that feeding normal amounts of P and K caused the same detrimental effects on flavor you'd have my attention.

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what makes people around here so angry at this notion, with labels and such? geesh, farming is a really old skill, marijuana has been cultivated for thousands of years for thc, peeps could read a book or sumpin eh

I've never been angry about growing... lol. I apologize if I gave you that impression. Personally I have read many books about horticulture and plant biology. I know not everyone has though, so I'm always careful to use words precisely to avoid giving bad info or confusing people who are new, and I also try to avoid passing on myths or misinformation about growing because I don't want to be responsible for causing anyone to get any less than the best results possible from their grow. Flushing, leeching, whatever words people want to attach to it, there is no evidence that depriving your plant of food for 2 or 3 weeks is beneficial. Cutting back is absolutely a good idea with cannabis as its nutritional requirements tend to decrease late in flower, but you just simply cannot remove anything from the buds that is already there. Plants funnel everything they need towards the buds, not away from it. if you take away it's food supply it does what every organism does... it begins to feed off of itself.