Quiet. The Neighbors Can Hear You (Sound Control Thread)

Discussion in 'Indoor Growing' started by one2threeBUDS4, Oct 21, 2008.

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    Big smo

    Big smo Well-Known Member

    I threw it out there as an option. I personally doubled my drywall, used roxul insulation and did 1 1/2 ridged foam on the floor with 3/4 plywood over and tile.its as sound proof as anyone could hope for
     
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    anony42017

    anony42017 Member

    How the fuck is this not obvious lol? That fan is coming out the window right? Can't people clearly see that. Hmm.
     
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    Big smo

    Big smo Well-Known Member

    Maybe it's an interior window :bigjoint:
     
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    coreywebster

    coreywebster Well-Known Member

    To expand on the box idea on page 1, if anyone needs further improvement. This would involve a larger box but if its needed its needed!! Box as made or a box frame filled with whats known in the UK as rockwool rwa45 (roxul in USA do similar). Either add the box around that then a layer of greenglue followed by a reasonably thick plasterboard (wallrock). The greenglue is to kill the low frequency that the fans run at and is an effective method although its not cheap. As I'm sure you know low frequencies are the hardest to stop and in some cases can be heard along way off. I think most fans run at 50hz and that's a really awkward frequency.
    I cant give the exact STD rating but it should help considerably with those low hums.
    Also to anyone using bungie's be aware they can rot over a few years. Its a good idea to have a loose chain backing up in case they fail. Mine rotted in about 3 years, first the outer stuff goes then the rubber perishes. I assume its the RH and temps that do it. Luckily I notice before they failed and changed them out and added a loose chain just so my airforce2 didn't drop on my girls. I also added that pipe insulation to the tent poles that supported which also aids the nullification of the vibration.
    C.W
     
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    Big smo

    Big smo Well-Known Member

    Great post cw. Never heard of green glue here in the states but I assume it works well. Roxul imo is a great product and just taking over the market here for residential construction.
     
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    coreywebster

    coreywebster Well-Known Member

    Thanks Big smo. Green Glue is an American product I think. Like I say its expensive but for small projects like this it wouldn't cost much, a tube would likely do the job. I believe its a dampening product so between layers it can be effective for frequencies other products don't help with. The Roxul is awesome, if you look at the youtube demos, although they are at higher pitched sounds like a phone. But the fact its fire proof is also a bonus! I only know these products because I spent 3 months reading up on the best soundproofing for my room floor cavity and upgrading my walls and doors (to stop neighbours hearing).
    gearsluts is a good resource for ideas on these soundproofing issues. But they are orientated towards home theatres and recording studios and anything like that is soooo expensive to do properly. But as we do what we do we can implement some of the ideas on smaller scales in areas we need such as the original title post.
    To point out I said STD earlier... doh, that was daft, we don't want any of those thanks. STC is what I ment. LOL

    C.W
     
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    Rrog

    Rrog Well-Known Member

    While Roxul is great, for soundproofing you can't beat simple fiberglass. Sorry to argue, but that the lab data
     
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    coreywebster

    coreywebster Well-Known Member

    Yeah I hear that! We are not arguing, just offering different opinions or ideas. Everything is worth considering and everything has a place for each of us. I can only talk about what I've read about and am planning to use. Cheers Rrog, I will take a look at the lab data on that. Ive really enjoyed learning more about soundproofing and sound absorbing.
    Take it easy.
    C.W
     
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    Rrog

    Rrog Well-Known Member

    Thank you for letting me be an asshole.
     
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    Big smo

    Big smo Well-Known Member

    What's the actual difference? Roxul has many benefits besides noise. Fire and mold resistant is a huge factor to most people. If it's 50% difference in noise deadening then I'd say go pink but if it's less then 25% is go with roxul.
     
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    Rrog

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    The actual difference is small, so if there are other reasons to want Roxul, then go for it. I like working with it better than fiberglass.

    In the US, Roxul is more $$ than fiberglass
     
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    Big smo

    Big smo Well-Known Member

    Sure is, one bag/batt of the r-15 is like 50$ here. Just about twice the cost. Our local code has changed here and they require r-15 in exterior walls. Roxul came out with the r-15 before any fiberglass company did. That's why they became so popular here.
     
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    coreywebster

    coreywebster Well-Known Member

    Where I am a bag of rwa45 cost around £13 best price that is two batts of 100mm deep X 600mm wide X 1200mm long. So its pretty cheap, easy to cut with a bread knife, trim pieces out ect for wires and pipes. Its a damn shame my joists are 310mm spaced.
    Mine is for the floor space so its the easiest option for me. With a gap below and two layer of plasterboard with green glue between layers and then 18mm chipboard, a layer of MLV I should be stopping my sound issues, probably going way overboard to be honest.
    Off point of the topic I know.
    Anybody tried MLV as far as around extractor fans? Mass Mass Mass!
    C.W
     
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    Rrog

    Rrog Well-Known Member

    Get the mass from 5/8" drywall. MLV costs 5X as much, weighs 1/2 as much per square foot.

    EDIT- This would make more sense to use MLV if you have to wrap something. The better alternative is to build a box / muffler where possible. Cheaper and more massive than the MLV
     
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    Big smo

    Big smo Well-Known Member

    I'm in a built shed. 20x20 the main sheds 12x20 with what was a 8x20 solid framed over hang. I recently added wall image.jpg s and a floor to give myself the space. Just doing autos so they don't get huge but also my flowering area is convertible. 3'6"x 9' which I can easily turn into 5'6"x11'

    Even being outdoors night time gets quiet, so the roxul walls and 2 1/2" of foam and 3/4 plywood floor helps. New killer is the running Ac hanging out of the wall. Not sure there is much to do about that.

    Here is the quiet completed room. Second grow and second room in the past few months.
     
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    coreywebster

    coreywebster Well-Known Member

    Nice!! nice air pots too, was thinking of using those next, do they really help the root mass increase as advertised?
    You could muffle of baffle the Ac if its airborne or isolate it more if the problem is impact sound. Isolation after the installation could be a tricky one. We can't win every battle though ey!
     
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    Big smo

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    I did have some circling at the bottom of the pot but nothing to bad. I'd recommend The little pot stands to keep them elevated too. My circling was also probably caused by my own stupidity, I had them upside down and no air was allowed to get to the bottom.
     
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    Just Let Me Be Faded

    Just Let Me Be Faded Well-Known Member

    Creative, I like it! I bet you did some tinkering before you had this all put together.
     
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    Big smo

    Big smo Well-Known Member

    Tinkering is the whole job. I finished a new room a month and a half ago and spend 1-4 hours a day tinkering. image.jpeg
    Just added the new filter, blue lab monitor, pump line and 3/4 return from my gravity system. Air stones and rigged the pump and monitor on a power strip with a switch. No more plugging and unplugging. 3 days ago i just dangled a ph pen in and watered by hand. Tinkering at its finest.
     
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    JohnMotayo

    JohnMotayo Member

    I figure this is kind of a multi-purpose thread. On one hand you got methods for sound control while you're growing, and on the other hand depending on the type of strain you got sound control for the potential after-effects of taking it, haha! I guess it's a win-win on both parts. Thanks everyone for sharing, I got some really good ideas!
     
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