9867mike777
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I think you can get 100ML of Clonex rooting gel for around $20 on Ebay. You can also get 15ML packet for around $6 on Ebay.
Root gel and some experiments
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9867mike777
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Quick question about the gel. If you stick the stem directly in your bottle of rooting gel, will this introduce contaminants into the container and destroy the gel? I know they tell you to put a little bit in a separate little container, but it would be so much easier just to dip it in the jar. I think I already know that this is not something you should do, but I'm curious.
i always stick mine right into the jar.
9867mike777
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I just saw a guide and the picture in that guide showed him sticking it right in the jar. So it sounds like the get doesn't get contaminated.
bird mcbride
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Everyone that I know has confirmed that the rooting powder works far better than the gels. I use a #2 powdered rooting agent for semi-hardwood. The stuff I've always gotten from the hydro shop was/is yellow.
9867mike777
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What about using both. The gel would hold the powder really nice if you sprinkled some on the stem after dipping. Is it possible to use too much of either the gel or rooting powder.
bird mcbride
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After dipping "ping" off excess rooting agents. Unless you're a real pro, wear gloves. Do not touch the rooting area with your fingers. The salt etc. from your fingers will stop the plant from rooting.
roseypeach
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woah baby! that is awesome! Now I've got to get me some cloning gel. What brand are you using?
panhead
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Wow this threads still alive after all these years !
Anyhow an update of my experiences using Indole 3 Butyric acid,i did many tests using different numbers of plants & i allways used control plants that were not fed any hormones,i spent nearly 2 years trying to perfect a delievery method that would produce reliable results.
Those who have read the entire thread would have seen i was getting results of massive cola growth,the bud in my avatar that Dr Frankenstien is looking at & screaming " its alive " is the main cola nicknamed the moose from 1st plant i experimented with,i cant remember exact weights but dry weight was over 2 ounces for that cola,no other cola from any of the other plants came close to her dry weight.
Over the years since the start of this thread ive tried many different approaches as well as both powders & gel's,getting powders to permenantly disolve in water is impossible,no matter how well its mixed the bulk of the powder will seperate & lay at the bottom of the container,after discovering that i focused on gel that contained Indole 3 to feed the plants.
I fed soil plants as well as flood & drain hydro plants,both showed promise but neither gave reliable or steady results,my method that showed the most promis was not from standard root feediungs but from injecting the hormone directly into the stalk of the plant via 10 gauge hypodermic needle .
In the end there were way too many variables for a lone grower to overcome,in order to get explosive cola growth extremely heavy doses are needed,just a pinch too much & the plants would rott in half at the point where the hormone was injected into the stalks,a bit too little & no results or i would get slowed growth or mutated buds,exactly when to dose the plants is another huge variable i couldnt nail down.
When testing using a strain proven to finish in 10 weeks my best results came when injecting the solution into the stalk in weeks 6 & 7,the solution was a 60/40 ratio using distiled water at 60% & clone gel at 40%,the dose was 5 cc's injected in the stalk with the act of pushing the plunger being as slow as possible,approx 5 minutes per injection.
The best result i ever got was when several plants nearly trippled overall yeild compared to untreated plants,that was in a flood & drain hydro grow using full plants not my usual sog style,the best results in soil plants was the origional test allready covered early in this thread.
My findings proved to me beyond a doubt that there is something here with hormones but nailing it down to produce reliable results is going to take a lab full of researchers,there are way too many variables for the layman to overcome.
Best of luck to all who follow this path as its a whole lot of fun conducting the experiments,if my time wasnt so consumed taking care of my wife while her disease slowly takes her life i would really enjoy picking up where i left off but for the forseeable future im not going to have the opportunity.
Good luck guys.
Anyhow an update of my experiences using Indole 3 Butyric acid,i did many tests using different numbers of plants & i allways used control plants that were not fed any hormones,i spent nearly 2 years trying to perfect a delievery method that would produce reliable results.
Those who have read the entire thread would have seen i was getting results of massive cola growth,the bud in my avatar that Dr Frankenstien is looking at & screaming " its alive " is the main cola nicknamed the moose from 1st plant i experimented with,i cant remember exact weights but dry weight was over 2 ounces for that cola,no other cola from any of the other plants came close to her dry weight.
Over the years since the start of this thread ive tried many different approaches as well as both powders & gel's,getting powders to permenantly disolve in water is impossible,no matter how well its mixed the bulk of the powder will seperate & lay at the bottom of the container,after discovering that i focused on gel that contained Indole 3 to feed the plants.
I fed soil plants as well as flood & drain hydro plants,both showed promise but neither gave reliable or steady results,my method that showed the most promis was not from standard root feediungs but from injecting the hormone directly into the stalk of the plant via 10 gauge hypodermic needle .
In the end there were way too many variables for a lone grower to overcome,in order to get explosive cola growth extremely heavy doses are needed,just a pinch too much & the plants would rott in half at the point where the hormone was injected into the stalks,a bit too little & no results or i would get slowed growth or mutated buds,exactly when to dose the plants is another huge variable i couldnt nail down.
When testing using a strain proven to finish in 10 weeks my best results came when injecting the solution into the stalk in weeks 6 & 7,the solution was a 60/40 ratio using distiled water at 60% & clone gel at 40%,the dose was 5 cc's injected in the stalk with the act of pushing the plunger being as slow as possible,approx 5 minutes per injection.
The best result i ever got was when several plants nearly trippled overall yeild compared to untreated plants,that was in a flood & drain hydro grow using full plants not my usual sog style,the best results in soil plants was the origional test allready covered early in this thread.
My findings proved to me beyond a doubt that there is something here with hormones but nailing it down to produce reliable results is going to take a lab full of researchers,there are way too many variables for the layman to overcome.
Best of luck to all who follow this path as its a whole lot of fun conducting the experiments,if my time wasnt so consumed taking care of my wife while her disease slowly takes her life i would really enjoy picking up where i left off but for the forseeable future im not going to have the opportunity.
Good luck guys.
stickyfingers1977
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The more roots your plant developes the more nutes it can take in hence bigger stems bigger flowers,buds some people add nutes that kill off old root mass and reproduce new root mass it helps to grow bigger plants
