rudeau government to roll out planned pot regulations

gb123

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The picture of what the legalized pot regime will look like in Canada becomes a bit clearer today, as the federal government unveils many of its proposed pot regulations.

Health Minister Ginette Petitpas Taylor will make the announcement today at 3:30 P.M. ET in the foyer of the House of Commons, alongside Bill Blair, parliamentary secretary to the ministers of justice and health. Blair, a former Toronto police chief, has become the Liberal's chief spokesperson on the pot file.



While the government put forward the proposed law to legalize pot in April, there are many details that the legislation doesn't address. That's where regulations come into play.

The government won't reveal precisely what issues it plans to tackle in today's announcement, but there are a host of outstanding issues. Those include the specifics of the roadside saliva testing devices that the government hopes to use to stop drug-impaired driving, details around how recreational pot products will be packaged and advertised, along with questions about rules for commercial growers.

There's limited time to put new regulations into effect. The federal government has shown no interest in budging on its July 2018 deadline, despite calls from some Indigenous groups, police forces and provincial governments asking for more time to prepare.

In fact, in a bid to speed up the process of passing the new law itself, the Liberals moved to limit debate on the remaining stages of C-45, also known as the Cannabis Act. The Conservatives and NDP voted against the shortened schedule, but they were outnumbered.

The bill is expected to pass the Liberal-dominated House of Commons easily, but the situation may become more complicated when the proposed law reaches the Senate. Several senators have warned that because of the complexity of the issues at play, that process could take months.

StatsCan studies recreational pot
Some have suggested the Senate might not be ready in time for the government's July 2018 deadline.

With the deadline up in the air, Statistics Canada is getting a jump on measuring the economic and social impacts of legal pot.

To prepare for legalization, the agency says it will try to measure Canada's current production, sale and consumption of recreational cannabis, despite the lack of data and the fact it remains illegal.

The agency says collecting data both before and after marijuana becomes legal will allow Canadians, governments and businesses to form a clearer picture of the economic and social consequences of lawful pot..
 

GroErr

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the agency says it will try to measure Canada's current production, sale and consumption of recreational cannabis, despite the lack of data and the fact it remains illegal.


in other words.. Theyre guessing ....:lol:
Actually despite the fact that they are a government department they do have some indicators in their framework that will fill in the blanks even with missing data. I think it'll be interesting to see how it plays out as the data should show that although consumption is high, legal purchases will remain low and highlight the BM/medical factors in the numbers. I'm betting that eventually the numbers will show a huge BM that won't budge if they continue down the path they're headed.
 

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gb123

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that's the given parts for sure.

even their shit numbers will learn them
but I'm hearing, they wont care if theyre running a losing business.. not one wee bit!
 

Logan C

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Just a sideline with the story. "has released the Liberal government's proposed cannabis regulations, giving Canadians until Jan. 20 to offer opinions on the measures before they are implemented." . Does anyone know if a link to a site to provide our opinions is available?
 

VIANARCHRIS

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7.5.1 Proposed Change: Storage of Cannabis by Personal and Designated Producers
It is proposed that personal and designated producers would continue to be required to attest to securely storing cannabis, but there would no longer be limits on where and how much cannabis could be stored, as no such limits are outlined in the proposed Cannabis Act pertaining to the possession of cannabis (other than the limit of possessing no more than 30 grams of dried cannabis or its equivalent in public).
 

GroErr

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7.5.1 Proposed Change: Storage of Cannabis by Personal and Designated Producers
It is proposed that personal and designated producers would continue to be required to attest to securely storing cannabis, but there would no longer be limits on where and how much cannabis could be stored, as no such limits are outlined in the proposed Cannabis Act pertaining to the possession of cannabis (other than the limit of possessing no more than 30 grams of dried cannabis or its equivalent in public).
Got a chance to read the whole thing and there's some decent provisions in there, can't believe they listened ;)

Some others that should clear up confusion and have been sore points for medical patients:

While the storage limit will be removed, the carry limit will remain higher than recreational:
"The possession limit, in a public place, for medical purposes would remain the lesser of either a 30-day supply (as authorized by a health care practitioner) or 150 grams of dried cannabis (or the equivalent amount of cannabis in another class, as outlined in Schedule 3 of the proposed Cannabis Act)."

Easier transfer of LP's for those who don't grow:
"To facilitate patient access, it is proposed that individuals could request the return of their medical document from a federally-licensed seller or the transfer of a valid medical document to a different federally-licensed seller of cannabis for medical purposes."

"the transfer of medical documents between licensed sellers would be possible, provided that clients provide their consent."

Some clarity on when your grow license (or buy license) takes effect:
"it is proposed that the period of use of a registration—whether the registration is with a federally-licensed seller of cannabis for medical purposes or with Health Canada— would begin on the date of initial registration, and not on the date that the medical document was signed by the health care practitioner"

And no 30-day restrictions on orders through an LP:
"proposed that the regulations would remove the 30-day limitation period
for the purchase for cannabis from a federally-licensed seller of cannabis for medical purposes—whereby a licensed seller cannot fill multiple orders within a 30-day period that would result in more than a 30-day supply of cannabis being provided to a client— be removed."
 

GroErr

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So while you can grow and sell as a micro-grower, sales to end users is still going to be illegal depending on the province you live in, once they all announce the provincial plans/rules. Not a huge issue, you could have say a micro-grow, micro-processing license in one "branch" in Ontario, then a branch office holding a sales license in Alberta (if they decide to allow private sales).

I'll be having a closer look at the research license, haven't found any details on criteria but that one could be interesting in that it would allow pretty well all activities other than sales. But once you developed say, a new strain, that could be sold or transferred to another business/branch/license.
 

GroErr

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know how HC works..qualifying should be quite a hurdle
Oh yeah, I'm sure getting responses and jumping their hurdles will be a project on its own. Won't be diving in too quick until there's some clarity in their process and rules. From what they do mention in the latest document, it looks like the rules for a small research license would be similar to micro growers, except research meds can't be sold and must be "destroyed" (whatever that means). If there's no real benefits to the research license, micro grower looks like the next best option atm.
 
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