S1 seeds

CannaBruh

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Excuse my ignorance but googling is confusing.

If I grow 10 Kush seeds and select a male n female to breed, what are the resulting seeds called?
Just more Kush seeds? Lol
Thx
Yes, more kush seeds.

Without knowing the parents there's no tellng what it is. An F1 (first filial) requires two different parents, so 10 kush seeds making seeds sounds more like f2.

In the end it doesn't matter if you're just making seeds.
 

Bad Karma

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Excuse my ignorance but googling is confusing.

If I grow 10 Kush seeds and select a male n female to breed, what are the resulting seeds called?
Just more Kush seeds? Lol
Thx
Yes, more kush seeds.

Without knowing the parents there's no tellng what it is. An F1 (first filial) requires two different parents, so 10 kush seeds making seeds sounds more like f2.

In the end it doesn't matter if you're just making seeds.
The seeds in question would be called Kush IBL. IBL stands for Inbred Line. When two siblings from the same generation of seeds are mated together the resulting outcome will always be an inbred line. Many growers make seeds this way thinking that they've made "F2's" of their favorite strains, they are misinformed.
 

Bad Karma

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What a persuasive argument you make, and backed up by so many facts, as well.

To make regular seeds there needs to be two parents, P1, and P2.
F1 is the first filial generation of this pairings offspring.
P1xP2=F1

To make F2 seeds, one of the original parents(P1 or P2) must be involved, to continue the filial line. This is also known as Back Crossing (BX).
P1xF1=F2
P2xF1=F2
F1xP1=F2
F1xP2=F2

If you mate two F1's from the same pack of seeds, you will be making an F1 Inbred Line (IBL).
F1xF1=F1 IBL
 

CannaBruh

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What a persuasive argument you make, and backed up by so many facts, as well.

To make regular seeds there needs to be two parents, P1, and P2.
F1 is the first filial generation of this pairings offspring.
P1xP2=F1
"Kush" seeds are unrelated? You're skipping a key fundamental at this stage.
 

Bad Karma

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"Kush" seeds are unrelated? You're skipping a key fundamental at this stage.
Please enlighten us, what key fundamental am I skipping? I showed all of my work and backed it up. As where you just keep making vague comments that you won't elaborate on.
 

CannaBruh

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Please enlighten us, what key fundamental am I skipping? I showed all of my work and backed it up. As where you just keep making vague comments that you won't elaborate on.
I did, put quotes around "kush" asking about their relation, this is the key.
 

CannaBruh

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"F1 is the first filial generation of this pairings offspring."

This makes an assumption that is not satisfied by "kush" seeds, that is the point.
 

too larry

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She has a lot in her gene pool, and you are seeing what might come out. True breeding varieties might be closer to identical, but polyhybrids and such are going to have many expressions as it's an in cross, or an f2 but you've limited the pairs to only what she can offer. So if she has some recessive traits you might be seeing a lot of the come out whereas whatever the dad was in the previous generation maybe you see much of what he donated in the mom you selfed. I could be wrong and am really stoned and read this somewhere, also sometimes I dream :bigjoint:
So you are saying the [Triangle Kush Cookies X Nightcap X Sinmint] X [Shit/Skunk] that I IBL'ed might not be stable?
 

whitebb2727

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F1 seeds are first generation. Like a mix between two strains, the first (un stable ) seeds are f1) It takes at least 10 -15 generations of stable mixes to create stable seeds. But I may be wrong though
Its actually quit common in the ag industry to sell f1 seeds. They are fairly uniform and fast growing.

It also keeps people from stealing your strains as f2 will be all over the place.

heyy guys,
I hear this term thrown around every once in a while, and so I gather it means Selfed? But what the hell does that actually mean? Like what's the difference between S1 and F1 seeds?
peace
F1 is a cross between two strains. It could be reg or fem beans.

S1 is a self pollinated female. The offspring will be female and a good representation of the mother though not an exact copy.



Damn. Another old thread got me.
 

bullSnot

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Part 1: I have a female plant I take two clones from it. I turn one male...I breed them...what are they? As both parents are from the same plant.

Part 2: that same female I took clones from, I take another clone female. One of those seeds from part1 grows and I turn male...is this backcrossing?
 

macsnax

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Part 1, s1 not S1.

Part 2, still s1, I think, could be wrong. Still same thing you were doing in part 1. Doesn't matter when the clone was took, it's still the same mother.
 
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