Samsung F series LED strips & HLG-150H-42AB

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Havetheygotagrowon

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Hello

After scouring the forum I've decided on buying 3 of the aforementioned strips with a HLG-150H-42AB. Does this driver match the lights?

Also, is 3 strips at 26000 Lumens (Couldn't find info on the PAR) too much for a 2ft x 2ft grow area? Because, I have considered two strips and a HLG-100H42AB

Thank you

P.S. Feel free to recommend other better suited drivers.
 
StonerCol

StonerCol

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I'd be thinking of maybe a couple more strips personally. I've been looking at the F Series 1120mm double row LED strips for my 4x2 space. From what I can gather reading and talking to one or 2 others 55-60,000 lumens of 3000K/35000K is a good level. I think that's around the 650-700 PAR mark, although that's just a rough estimation. That should be enough to grow some really good plants imo but others will chime in with poss more accurate info.
So, I'd maybe go with 6 of the F64B. Spread them out over the middle 18 inches and leave a 3 inch gap at each side, something like that? You'd have to either calculate it with trigonometry or trial and error!
That would give you a theoretical 54-57,000 lm of 3000K/3500K and you could use a MEAN WELL HLG-320H-C1050B as it would be 320Watts and max forward voltage of 288V. Current required is 1120mA so the 1050B driver would keep you under or the 1400B version over and you'd have a lil room for extra current if wanted.

Hope this helps...it's just a suggestion based on what I'm thinking but others might have other ideas!

Good luck dude, subbed to see what the outcome is :D
 
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Havetheygotagrowon

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I ended up buying 6 of these in total: 4x BXEB-L0560Z-30E2000-C-A3 & 2x BXEB-L0560Z-50E2000-C-A3, which comes to about 24000 lumens. Then I compared it to a MARS 600w (260w) that states it puts out 12000 lumens and 980 PAR at 18". Meaning my setup should come to about 750 PAR at the same distance, but for 75w less power.
 
StonerCol

StonerCol

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Havetheygotagrowon said:
I ended up buying 6 of these in total: 4x BXEB-L0560Z-30E2000-C-A3 & 2x BXEB-L0560Z-50E2000-C-A3, which comes to about 24000 lumens. Then I compared it to a MARS 600w (260w) that states it puts out 12000 lumens and 980 PAR at 18". Meaning my setup should come to about 750 PAR at the same distance, but for 75w less power.
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The only issue I take with that buddy is doing a comparison to a Mars Hydro. It's not a great light at all and their numbers cannot be trusted.
".......puts out 12000 lumens and 980 PAR at 18". Pretty sure it won't.

Better to make a comparison with something that is known to be good imho....
 
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Havetheygotagrowon

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StonerCol said:
The only issue I take with that buddy is doing a comparison to a Mars Hydro. It's not a great light at all and their numbers cannot be trusted.
".......puts out 12000 lumens and 980 PAR at 18". Pretty sure it won't.

Better to make a comparison with something that is known to be good imho....
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You could be right. A video of a MARS 300w shows 311 PAR at 18", which is 134 PAR less than advertised, and I've just test my MARS 300w at 18" and I get 35,000 Lux at the centre, but what is that in lumens?
 
StonerCol

StonerCol

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Havetheygotagrowon said:
You could be right. A video of a MARS 300w shows 311 PAR at 18", which is 134 PAR less than advertised, and I've just test my MARS 300w at 18" and I get 35,000 Lux at the centre, but what is that in lumens?
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That's 35,000 lumens. The issue is that yes it might be the right spectrum but not a decent even amount across the whole spectrum. With these panels it tends to be a good blue - great for veg - but crap in red for flower; at least I've come across that issue myself and read of others having the same.

You want to aim for approx. 800PPFD which roughly speaking you'll get from 60,000 lm of 3500K/3500K LED white light. At least that is what I believe from what I've read but I'd need to re-check 'cos it's buried in loads of maths formulae that I don't understand so had to kinda figure it out and I was/am/will be stoned...... :D

Don't forget that lux/lumens are what we see, not what the plant needs. Many lights look really bright and are but just not in the right amount of the correct spectrum.
 
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StonerCol said:
That's 35,000 lumens. The issue is that yes it might be the right spectrum but not a decent even amount across the whole spectrum. With these panels it tends to be a good blue - great for veg - but crap in red for flower; at least I've come across that issue myself and read of others having the same.

You want to aim for approx. 800PPFD which roughly speaking you'll get from 60,000 lm of 3500K/3500K LED white light. At least that is what I believe from what I've read but I'd need to re-check 'cos it's buried in loads of maths formulae that I don't understand so had to kinda figure it out and I was/am/will be stoned...... :D

Don't forget that lux/lumens are what we see, not what the plant needs. Many lights look really bright and are but just not in the right amount of the correct spectrum.
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Thanks for the tips
 
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