Satellite data proves Earth has not been warming the past 18 years - it's stable

Harrekin

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But seriously, do you know how insignificant the emissions emitted by NASA's activity is compared to the fossil fuel industry?

Global volcanic activity is about 2-3% (also insignificant), NASA launches what, 6-10 times a year?

You do the math
Lol, you can't even do math bro.

All these totally astute scientists are real good at pointing out "the climate is changing", however their argument that humans alone are causing it is far less convincing.

Science!
 

Padawanbater2

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All these totally astute scientists are real good at pointing out "the climate is changing", however their argument that humans alone are causing it is far less convincing.
To people like you, sure

As for the rest of us, it's overwhelmingly convincing

Just like evolution is responsible for the diversity of life on earth, it's not convincing to creationists..

Or that the earth is round, not convincing to flat earthers..

Or that Jesus is a fairy tale, not convincing to Christians..

Or that man has landed on the moon, or 9/11 was committed by Islamic fundamentalists, not convincing to conspiracy theorists..

Or.. you get the idea..
 

Harrekin

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To people like you, sure

As for the rest of us, it's overwhelmingly convincing

Just like evolution is responsible for the diversity of life on earth, it's not convincing to creationists..

Or that the earth is round, not convincing to flat earthers..

Or that Jesus is a fairy tale, not convincing to Christians..

Or that man has landed on the moon, or 9/11 was committed by Islamic fundamentalists, not convincing to conspiracy theorists..

Or.. you get the idea..
All of those other things have demonstrable evidence.

Oh but the models! The models!

My model Millennium Falcon (with full interior) is more reliable than your climate models.
 

Padawanbater2

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All of those other things have demonstrable evidence.
So does anthropogenic climate change, you deny it

Just like creationists deny the evidence for evolution..

Flat earthers deny the evidence for a round earth..

Christians deny the evidence against Jesus

Conspiracy theorists deny the evidence we landed on the moon and 9/11 wasn't an inside job..

Are we seeing a pattern emerge..?
 

Harrekin

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So does anthropogenic climate change, you deny it

Just like creationists deny the evidence for evolution..

Flat earthers deny the evidence for a round earth..

Christians deny the evidence against Jesus

Conspiracy theorists deny the evidence we landed on the moon and 9/11 wasn't an inside job..

Are we seeing a pattern emerge..?
What evidence is this? Ice cores?

What's the diffusion rate for CO2 in water?

The planet has had more atmospheric/oceanic CO2 and higher temperatures in the past, why should I assume the Earth is acting any differently now?

You literally cannot prove that and all your appeals to authority in the world can't change that.

If you changed your position to "the climate is changing, how can we adapt as a species?" then I'd be screaming from your side of the stadium.
 

Harrekin

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Yeah, just like science "literally cannot prove" the theory of evolution is true..

Or the earth is round..

Or we landed on the moon..

Or Islamic extremists committed 9/11..

Lol
Are you being deliberately obtuse?

I said science can prove those things, it cannot however prove that our current climate cycle is "out of the norm".

That's why only less than 40% of "climatologists" even take a position on the subject.
 

Padawanbater2

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Are you being deliberately obtuse?

I said science can prove those things, it cannot however prove that our current climate cycle is "out of the norm".

That's why only less than 40% of "climatologists" even take a position on the subject.
Every measurable metric shows the current trend in climate change to be "out of the norm", you deny it. How many times has this graph been shown?



 

Harrekin

Well-Known Member
Every measurable metric shows the current trend in climate change to be "out of the norm", you deny it. How many times has this graph been shown?



You know what sort of a fraction 650k years are compared to 4 billion?

If you checked if it was dark outside at 12.01am and used that as your only sample size, could you conclude it is ALWAYS dark outside?
 

UncleBuck

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You know what sort of a fraction 650k years are compared to 4 billion?

If you checked if it was dark outside at 12.01am and used that as your only sample size, could you conclude it is ALWAYS dark outside?
you are being deliberately obtuse.

or you are just cripplingly stupid.

either way, it's not good.
 

Padawanbater2

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You know what sort of a fraction 650k years are compared to 4 billion?

If you checked if it was dark outside at 12.01am and used that as your only sample size, could you conclude it is ALWAYS dark outside?
Analogy fail

Lets use your 24 hour cycle example to examine this..

24 hours represents the 4.5 billion years the earth has existed
1 minute represents how long humans have existed

The first 50 seconds (200-300K years) have been relatively constant, and the previous 650K years (3-4 minutes) have as well

Now, in the 10 second time span (12:01:50 - 12:02:00), the temperature has increased by 5°C and the CO2 concentrations have increased to 420PPM, coincidentally right around the time the industrial revolution started..

And people like you are still sitting around with their thumbs up their butt wondering where all the evidence is, or saying increased temperatures are "good for the planet", or "it's all because of volcanos" or, best yet "termites dun it!"...
 

sheskunk

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Analogy fail

Lets use your 24 hour cycle example to examine this..

24 hours represents the 4.5 billion years the earth has existed
1 minute represents how long humans have existed

The first 50 seconds (200-300K years) have been relatively constant, and the previous 650K years (3-4 minutes) have as well

Now, in the 10 second time span (12:01:50 - 12:02:00), the temperature has increased by 5°C and the CO2 concentrations have increased to 420PPM, coincidentally right around the time the industrial revolution started..

And people like you are still sitting around with their thumbs up their butt wondering where all the evidence is, or saying increased temperatures are "good for the planet", or "it's all because of volcanos" or, best yet "termites dun it!"...

And the other 23 hours? You have no idea, do you?
 
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