Search for the Perfect Cure

I am conducting research attempting to get the perfect cure

in the process i will discover the change in medicinal effect

if a plant (auto) will produce more terpenes when stressed

the journal for the subject used can be found here

word of wisdom in the form of advice.... limit your variables. test curing methods alone with the same product/plant. if you have more than one strain, label everything! you WILL eventually lose track if you don't.

auto vs photo should be saved for AFTER finding your ideal curing method, as that is just another variable that can skew results and make them mean nothing.

11/15 Test Begin:

I attempted to take calyxs that where similar in size and mature to the point where leaves are crispy.

the idea of a cure is to slowly evaporate the moisture from the center of the floral cluster (bud)

in theory the old crispy leaves wont be a risk for mold since most if not all if the moisture is depleated.

the dry leaves should assist in slowly bringing moisture from the core..IT ITSELF wanting to capture some of the escaping moisture

Cat nailed it super exciting stuff but if you want true results you got to pace it control subjects too wouldn't hurt

FATBOYFRESH said:

11/15 Test Begin:

I attempted to take calyxs that where similar in size and mature to the point where leaves are crispy.

the idea of a cure is to slowly evaporate the moisture from the center of the floral cluster (bud)

in theory the old crispy leaves wont be a risk for mold since most if not all if the moisture is depleated.

the dry leaves should assist in slowly bringing moisture from the core..IT ITSELF wanting to capture some of the escaping moisture

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um... did you harvest calyxes or buds? if only calyxes were cut off, this won't work, there simply isn't enough mass. curing brings moisture from stem and inner mass to equilibrium, and then is dried again before re-sealing and allowing osmosis to equalize moisture content.

this will never change, as you can shred news paper and put it in a jar with a small piece of iceberg lettuce and within 24 hours, all the paper will be limp and soggy.

what are your plans to test curing? you need a control group, and then your test groups. you should have a hypothesis, some idea of what to expect from each test. record all results, and after a few tests of either proving or disproving your hypothesis, you can start the basis of a theory. after a few dozen experiments i would like to know your results and why your different cure testing techniques are either better or worse than another, and what you consider to be the 'ideal' method.

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The one on the left received some manocuring.. very rough but some manicuring .... the one on the right was left totally un touched

FATBOYFRESH said:

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you are going to need a MUCH larger sample for this type of experiment. single buds in jars do not cure like multiple jars of buds filled to 80% capacity. also consider that many cure in large bags or tubs, as there are multiple pounds to process.

all of these are variables, and you need to try and control every aspect of the experiment other than the test parameters.

MANICURED ON THE LEFT ......UN MANICURED IN THE RIGHT.....

FATBOYFRESH said:

The one on the left received some manocuring.. very rough but some manicuring .... the one on the right was left totally un touched

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manicuring needs to be done before curing. both of your buds should be as close to identical as possible, or this won't work as an experiment. you also need a control group, something to use as a base to compare your results to.

perhaps @Dr. Who , @ttystikk , @GroErr , @RM3 , @kmog33 , @Indacouch , @Olive Drab Green , @roseypeach would be interested in your methods and findings. kudos!

wow... i didnt know i would garner any traffic or comments so quickly... i hadnt gotten the oodt up completly before I started getting notifications.. . thanks to everyone who have commeted inthe middle of my post..... if interestes in the results.. stay tuned... this is a small test with small test samples.. one medium teo different states of the same subject nearly equal in every respects

FATBOYFRESH said:

wow... i didnt know i would garner any traffic or comments so quickly... i hadnt gotten the oodt up completly before I started getting notifications.. . thanks to everyone who have commeted inthe middle of my post..... if interestes in the results.. stay tuned... this is a small test with small test samples.. one medium teo different states of the same subject nearly equal in every respects

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i wish you the best of luck! please read the replies, i feel you need a larger group to test and a control so it's not an 'either/or' kind of thing. that, and things can happen to an individual sample that are outside of the test parameters, but can absolutely affect your results.

i'm just trying to help you keep it simple and accurate, because i'm interested in what you're experimenting with.

Interesting subject, I've cured both ways but never really tracked any differences. A lot of mine goes to hash/sift so I don't bother trimming too close unless it's smoking stock, then I typically trim close before curing. Agree with Cat that the sample size would need to be bigger, ideally multiple strains. I test stuff all the time but even with controls it's difficult to pinpoint/assign results to specific factors. With only one of each you're almost changing the process itself, too much space/air compared to normal curing. I typically fill my containers 2/3 to 3/4 full.

cat of curiosity said:

i wish you the best of luck! please read the replies, i feel you need a larger group to test and a control so it's not an 'either/or' kind of thing. that, and things can happen to an individual sample that are outside of the test parameters, but can absolutely affect your results.

i'm just trying to help you keep it simple and accurate, because i'm interested in what you're experimenting with.

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thanks... i hope all goes well
.. i know to get accurate test analytics... multiple segments/variables may exist... its just being able to isolate the indicators

this is not only my first harvest trials but also my first griw to acquure samples

thanks again

GroErr said:

Interesting subject, I've cured both ways but never really tracked any differences. A lot of mine goes to hash/sift so I don't bother trimming too close unless it's smoking stock, then I typically trim close before curing. Agree with Cat that the sample size would need to be bigger, ideally multiple strains. I test stuff all the time but even with controls it's difficult to pinpoint/assign results to specific factors. With only one of each you're almost changing the process itself, too much space/air compared to normal curing. I typically fill my containers 2/3 to 3/4 full.

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i kniw you didnt really track the results.. but out of the smokable buds did you notice better evaporation in non trimmed buds.

FATBOYFRESH said:

i kniw you didnt really track the results.. but out of the smokable buds did you notice better evaporation in non trimmed buds.

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Have never really never noticed much difference really. If it's smoke worthy, meaning it's cured well, it burns about the same ime.

cat of curiosity said:

perhaps @Dr. Who , @ttystikk , @GroErr , @RM3 , @kmog33 , @Indacouch , @Olive Drab Green , @roseypeach would be interested in your methods and findings. kudos!

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I suggest you research how fine tobacco's are cured! Look into what is actually happening in the material and why.....

Your going to find temps and humidity's as being very important!

Try some Malawi "cob" curing too!
This thread is a rather easy method and is getting kinda popular =

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=309172

Have fun!

Tip - O - the hat to CAT!

Imo, people tend to overcomplicate the cure. It's very hard to screw up as long as you don't try anything stupid.

Realistically, you could just leave the buds sitting out in the open for a month and they'd come out just fine. It might not be perfect, but it won't be "ruined" as a lot of members here would claim.

People who ruin their weed curing are almost always people who are overeager to get their product in a jar before being dry.

12/5 Update

I have been through a few rounds/attempts at curing

The first time.... The buds where litterally taken right off the tree and thrown into jars (buds were super crisp going in with a little portion of the stems)...

The humidity pack worked for a while..but became nearly wet from the extra moisture.. (I didn't take the humidity packs out to dry and I shouldve) Maybe a few of the 8 grammers could delay how long it will take before the jar must burped and for the packs to dry

I will invest in the 62 grammers for the future and just add more of them when dealing with more bud

The 8 grammers didn't handle the little extra moisture too well and the sample size was small