Second grow (clones from the first)

Wisher2

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Yall're special :)
we are salesman remember
we are just pushing you to spend money because what you have isnt good enough
and you explained it perfectly a few posts ago
you said
"Since i am a new grower and not invested in old tech, yeah, ill keep building and testing. This is a cost that will save me a lot over the years esp with how long these LED last vs HPS"

this is the cost
if if I can just steer you to my website for some 560 strips we can all come together
just need that credit card bro!!

hahahahah

coming from the preacher of KISS right
and "all these people trying to sell shit to the newbs"

but of course I am wrong for using 3 year old tech that still beats 90% of the market right?
hahaha
 
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Cannadab1s

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we are salesman remember
we are just pushing you to spend money because what you have isnt good enough
and you explained it perfectly a few posts ago
you said
"Since i am a new grower and not invested in old tech, yeah, ill keep building and testing. This is a cost that will save me a lot over the years esp with how long these LED last vs HPS"

this is the cost
if if I can just steer you to my website for some 560 strips we can all come together
just need that credit card bro!!

hahahahah

coming from the preacher of KISS right
and "all these people trying to sell shit to the newbs

but ofcourse Inam wrong for using 3 year old tech that still beats 90% of the market right?
hahaha
You still havent given me proof, silly. Just your word, which is useless to me now ;)
 

Wisher2

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You still havent given me proof, silly. Just your word, which is useless to me now ;)
again
spend money
upgade upgrade upgrade
spend money
not on enviroment
not on quality nutrients
not on quality genetics
not on any of that
........tinker with lights
 

Cannadab1s

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Day 44 flower. Bout 20 days left on her.

Spent very little on this grow so far as you can see by all the ghetto stuff in here....

150w of homemade COBs about 1ft from top colas in a 2x3 ikea closet filled out nicely.

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Cannadab1s

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"not on enviroment
not on quality nutrients
not on quality genetics
not on any of that
........tinker with lights"

Environment and nutes are sufficient. This stuff has all the nutes a plant needs. No need to dick around with how much of each element to add like everyone else here burning their plants by accidently adding a ml of this or that.

Quality genetics? Since when has inbred genetics become quality?

You show me some elite inbred humans or dogs then ill buy those subpar strains that lack any genetic diversification, crafted by stoners with their fairytale logic.

Wasnt it the trans bruce jenner who beat out all the dudes at the olympics? Lol. Shiiit... imma name my plant Caitlyn jenner cause this hermie bagseed is kicking ass. Lmfao
 

Wisher2

Well-Known Member
"not on enviroment
not on quality nutrients
not on quality genetics
not on any of that
........tinker with lights"

Environment and nutes are sufficient. This stuff has all the nutes a plant needs. No need to dick around with how much of each element to add like everyone else here burning their plants by accidently adding a ml of this or that.

Quality genetics? Since when has inbred genetics become quality?

You show me some elite inbred humans or dogs then ill buy those subpar strains that lack any genetic diversification, crafted by stoners with their fairytale logic.

Wasnt it the trans bruce jenner who beat out all the dudes at the olympics? Lol. Shiiit... imma name my plant Caitlyn jenner cause this hermie bagseed is kicking ass. Lmfao
now I know you have completely no clue about plants and breeding
you are a disgrace to growing plants in general
go talk to a tomato or lettuce farmer about genetics

by the way
how a human feels sexually have anything to do with plants and plant breeding?
 
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Cannadab1s

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now I know you have completely no clue about plants and breeding
you are a disgrace to growing plants in general
go talk to a tomato or lettuce farmer about genetics
Those pugs are so much more elite compared to wolves. Just sayin

You arent polygamous...did you bang your sister? Distant cousin.com? Lol
 

Wisher2

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Those pugs are so much more elite compared to wolves. Just sayin

You arent polygamous...did you bang your sister? Distant cousin.com? Lol
actually we are all distant cousins...

but mammals and plants have nothing to do with each other
this actually shows your intelligents

you can formulate a concept but you are ignorant to the facts of the subject...leading you to make a comparative that dosnt correlate
 

Cannadab1s

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now I know you have completely no clue about plants and breeding
you are a disgrace to growing plants in general
go talk to a tomato or lettuce farmer about genetics

by the way
how a human feels sexually have anything to do with plants and plant breeding?
How about a potato farmer? the Irish potato blight famine of 1850 or corn farmers? the Southern corn leaf blight of 1970

Keep inbreeding your burnt plants ;)
 

Wisher2

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How about a potato farmer? the Irish potato blight famine of 1850 or corn farmers? the Southern corn leaf blight of 1970

Keep inbreeding your burnt plants ;)
hahahha you just made my point for me
hahahahha
weak genetics spawn diseased plants
hahahah selective BREEDING leads to stonger disease and pest resistant plant hahahhaha called breeding
people have been doing this since the existance of farming hahhaha
 

Cannadab1s

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actually we are all distant cousins...

but mammals and plants have nothing to do with each other
this actually shows your intelligents

you can formulate a concept but you are ignorant to the facts of the subject...leading you to make a comparative that dosnt correlate
Mammals and plants have nothing to do with each other. Love it.
 

Cannadab1s

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hahahha you just made my point for me
hahahahha
weak genetics spawn diseased plants
hahahah selective BREEDING leads to stonger disease and pest resistant plant hahahhaha called breeding
people have been doing this since the existance of farming hahhaha
Pahlease. Some crops have lacked much genetic diversity, silly, which has lead to the catastrophes cause stupid mofos like you thought they knew best.

And thats why everyone needs GMO's?

Your a tool.
 

Wisher2

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Pahlease. Some crops have lacked much genetic diversity, silly, which has lead to the catastrophes cause stupid mofos like you thought they knew best.

And thats why everyone needs GMO's?

Your a tool.
I like how I can rattle you to the point you revert to name calling
only your ignorance holds you back
 

Cannadab1s

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I like how I can rattle you to the point you revert to name calling
only your ignorance holds you back
Just trying to show everyone the pro isnt pro even though he calls himself one. Ive only seen you call yourself the pro, no one else. Lol.

Go help that poor girl kill her plant some more with advice to buy more shit, where you dont know what will help fix it cause you are so pro ;P
 

Wisher2

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Just trying to show everyone the pro isnt pro even though he calls himself one. Ive only seen you call yourself the pro, no one else. Lol.

Go help that poor girl kill her plant some more with advice to buy more shit, where you dont know what will help fix it cause you are so pro ;P
you should reread her entire thread
you will notice not once did I tell her to or even suggest her purchase anything other than an RO filter because her well water is extremely bad to the point they have to distill to even have water

I was working with her with what she had
and her plants were pulling out of what ever she had going on
others suggested other things and she went with that...now her plant is stalling
but you live in an echo chamber
you think what you are saying is correct
the problem is that what you say is not correct
 

Cannadab1s

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Consequences of low genetic diversity
There are two well-known examples of the consequences of low genetic diversity, the Irish potato blight famine of 1850 and the Southern corn leaf blight of 1970.

The potato (Solanum tuberosum) originated in South America, but was carried back to Europe around 1530. By the early 1800s potatoes had become a staple food of Ireland, in particular of farmers and the rural population. In 1845 a disease caused by the protist Phytophthora infestans, commonly known as potato blight, began to spread. Because all the potatoes in Ireland descended from the small number that were introduced (producing a genetic bottleneck) and potatoes are usually grown from tubers from the mother plant (clones) rather than seed, there was very little genetic diversity among them. Since all the alleles in the population were the same, and susceptible to the disease, nearly all the potatoes in the country were killed. Since the Irish depending heavily on potatoes as a food source, this led to mass starvation during 1845-1852. The Great Famine decimated 25% of the Irish population and was one of the factors responsible for increased emigration to the US. There were complicated political issues that exacerbated the famine, but the underlying cause was the inability of the potato population to respond to the pathogen, due to its low genetic diversity.

The second example is the Southern corn leaf blight. Nearly all maize varieties in the US are hybrids, varieties produced by crossing two inbred parents together. Pollen from one parent is used to fertilize the other parent. In the past, to ensure that all kernels were really from the cross and not from self-pollination, all the plants used as females in the cross were detasseled by hand (this removed the pollen source, so any kernels that developed must have been pollinated from the other parent). To avoid the labor-intensive work of detasseling, plants that are male-sterile were subsequently developed for use as the female parent. Thus, self-fertilization was impossible. However, all the plants initially developed this way had very little diversity, as they were derived from a single parental type. In the 1970s, a fungus, Bipolaris maydis, began to spread throughout the US, devastating corn production (losses in the U.S. were estimated at one billion dollars; in some regions fields were completely lost). Because all maize varieties at the time were so genetically similar, none of them had genes that were resistant to this fungus; whereas, if there had been many diverse types growing, some would have been likely to contain genes resistant to the fungus. Plant breeders realized that genetic diversity among their populations is crucial, and have since been careful to avoid growing single crop systems (monocultures).

These types of devastating epidemics can be avoided by maintaining good levels of genetic diversity in crop populations; that is, making sure that all the plants are not too genetically similar.
 
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