Should I get this LED

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thething

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freemanjack said:
Simply put, yes. If you get one of the digital adjustable ballasts, its the only way of filling that space on your budget without going self build cob/qb. The light you posted initially is impossible to give any real scientific comparison because all we have to go on is marketing wank with scant details but from experience cheap blurples rarely exceed the 80 lum/watt of the average hps and while emitting more usable (visible) photons per watt than hps the whole blurple thing was based on PAR of a very biased spectrum and simply does not grow good weed for your watts. White full spectrum CoB's are the best thing around currently tho qb's and smd discreet mount is coming along nicely however on your budget you can only afford half the watts you will really need for the bleeding edge tech I work with. However, my personal recommendation would be self build CoB and suffer the hit on overall wattage for the reduced heat footprint and all its associated air flow/filtration problems. I can assemble lights and send them direct if yer uk based and can manage £1 per watt roughly for 7th generation CoB builds.
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That Bloomwin did show the spectrum, lux, par and ive asked them two sets of questions which they did answer. If you need to know more, just tell me what to ask.
Thing is, i've seen lots of grow journals with low cost LEDs and they've done really well. For example...
"Indoor LED/CFL SCROG - GG#4 and Skywalker x Grateful Breath"
... at Grasscity yielded 5.4oz in a 2x2 area with just a Viparspectra 300 and a few CFLs

.. so people saying they're shit just doesn't match with what I see. I'd be happy with less than that yield but surely a 450 version could perform even better so I just want to know if the Bloomwin should be better still. While i am doing this grow i can learn about DIY COBS but today it is just too many complications when planning the rest of the grow is complicated enough.

With the specifics that are given, should that Bloomwin do better than a Viparspectra? How does the spectrum/par/lux/coverage etc compare and is there anything else you'd need to know to make a comparison?

Tim Fox said:
with 60 inches of height,, you need to be careful, as most cobs and led's need 18 inches in veg,, and 12 inches in flower,, those blurples will burn if you get them close,, if you can find a cob with a dimmer,, so you can dial down the light power,, so you dont burn your plants,,, have to consider this,, other wise,, maybe some 2 foot t5's
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Yeah I know, i've measured it out and i should have about 25-30 inches for the plant/s which i think will be fine for SCrog
 
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thething said:
Yeah I know, i've measured it out and i should have about 25-30 inches for the plant/s which i think will be fine for SCrog
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that cob light i posted will only require 12 inches at the top, and if you chose a container for soil thats more wide than tall,, you may be a few more inches in height,, and yes,, 30 inches will due just fine with a scrog,, and grow photos so you can flip at just the right time,,
 
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those blurple panels like the mars,, they kick out allot of heat, and need a good 18 inches,, or they burn,, i would stay away from those type of panels myself for that reason alone, a buddy of mine is running those passive heat sink cobs i linked you,, and he digs them,, and really growing the plants,, @Evil-Mobo
 
Evil-Mobo

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Tim Fox said:
those blurple panels like the mars,, they kick out allot of heat, and need a good 18 inches,, or they burn,, i would stay away from those type of panels myself for that reason alone, a buddy of mine is running those passive heat sink cobs i linked you,, and he digs them,, and really growing the plants,, @Evil-Mobo
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I'm staying out of this one made a recommendation at the beginning and I could see where the thread was heading the op is set on the light he linked and does not seem open to other's suggestions and we are all just trying to help him. I was the first to recommend a cheap HID over the LED he linked which he could easily run two bulbs on for veg and flower so sorry but staying out of it.

:peace:
 
Tim Fox

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Evil-Mobo said:
I'm staying out of this one made a recommendation at the beginning and I could see where the thread was heading the op is set on the light he linked and does not seem open to other's suggestions and we are all just trying to help him. I was the first to recommend a cheap HID over the LED he linked which he could easily run two bulbs on for veg and flower so sorry but staying out of it.

:peace:
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yes i could feel he was bucking the suggestions,, so why ask i guess
 
freemanjack

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Tim Fox said:
hey buddy, buy one of these,,, just 1 will rock that grow space,, its selfcontained,, no fans,, ready to plug in,, and makes very very little heat https://cobshop.net/shop?olsPage=products/autocob-55&olsFocus=false
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http://ce.citizen.co.jp/lighting_led/dl_data/datasheet/en/COB_5/CLU048-1812C4_P3401_1115.pdf
Good example, 50w(ish) cob rated at 110lm/w @$135 plus customs, shipping and driver bringing that light in at around $3.50 per watt plus postage, for 6,135lm, I build in the uk for £1 per watt (approx) so £100 budget would be a 100w @148lm/w giving 14,800lm total compared to 16,000 lm from 200w of hps.
 
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I have 2 leds a cob & a blurple both work pretty well but are in a higher price range than you're suggesting I know things in the U.K. aren't as easy to come by as they are in the us I have a friend who bought vipar spectras & has been using them about a year now & believe it or not does pretty good about 2 months ago he bought another vipar it's called a par he really likes it I would consider one of these or if you wanted to just generate some bud a 250 w. hps would do the job
 
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thething

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Christ, what a bunch of reprobates. You've STILL not answered my single fucking question - is that LED, assuming the given specifics are accurate, better than other ones at the same price such as the Viparspectrum, ETC?

Are you that fucking dosed that none of you understand plain fucking English? I said in my initial post that the light needs to be from one shop and in the UK. Do you not think i have good reason for this? Do i need to fucking explain why my requirements are what they are? Do you want my life story too, or can you just respond to what is presented to you?

What you've suggested, apart from HPS which i am receptive to, i excluded in my initial post and FOUR other times and yet you are still bleating about it like a fucking stuck record.

Now you have the front to accuse me of dismissing your suggestions out of hand, when if you had bothered to read the post you were responding to, you blind bastards, you'd have seen that your suggestions weren't relevant to begin with and I was polite for not slapping the shit out of you straight away.

" I was the first to recommend a cheap HID"

You never recommended an HID, you delusional prick. This is your second post in the thread and your first was:
"@CobKits Cobby, you got a DIY build maybe with the CXM's that would fit his budget? Do you ship to the UK?"

Screw you guys. I'll take my advice from people who can actually read.


horribleherk said:
I have 2 leds a cob & a blurple both work pretty well but are in a higher price range than you're suggesting I know things in the U.K. aren't as easy to come by as they are in the us I have a friend who bought vipar spectras & has been using them about a year now & believe it or not does pretty good about 2 months ago he bought another vipar it's called a par he really likes it I would consider one of these or if you wanted to just generate some bud a 250 w. hps would do the job
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Thankyou. Atleast you've responded with some relevant information.

Close this thread (and send these goombahs back to school)
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Tim Fox

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nc208

nc208

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I think instead of all these Amazon options why don't you address the big elephant in the room.

What are these security reasons. You don't have a friend you could use their address to help you out? Or rent a P.O. box or have it sent to work. Or even give instructions to delivery drivers to call you when they get there so you can grab package yourself. Probably be a lot easier working with a quality light and fixing your shipping options vs having to choose from what's available on Amazon.


Heck if you really need to order from Amazon this should rock your needs for a 2x2.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B06XPGDL3C/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1506616706&sr=8-1&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=cob+grow+light+cree&dpPl=1&dpID=31eQ85z6g1L&ref=plSrch
 
Evil-Mobo

Evil-Mobo

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thething said:
Christ, what a bunch of reprobates. You've STILL not answered my single fucking question - is that LED, assuming the given specifics are accurate, better than other ones at the same price such as the Viparspectrum, ETC?

Are you that fucking dosed that none of you understand plain fucking English? I said in my initial post that the light needs to be from one shop and in the UK. Do you not think i have good reason for this? Do i need to fucking explain why my requirements are what they are? Do you want my life story too, or can you just respond to what is presented to you?

What you've suggested, apart from HPS which i am receptive to, i excluded in my initial post and FOUR other times and yet you are still bleating about it like a fucking stuck record.

Now you have the front to accuse me of dismissing your suggestions out of hand, when if you had bothered to read the post you were responding to, you blind bastards, you'd have seen that your suggestions weren't relevant to begin with and I was polite for not slapping the shit out of you straight away.

" I was the first to recommend a cheap HID"

You never recommended an HID, you delusional prick. This is your second post in the thread and your first was:
"@CobKits Cobby, you got a DIY build maybe with the CXM's that would fit his budget? Do you ship to the UK?"

Screw you guys. I'll take my advice from people who can actually read.




Thankyou. Atleast you've responded with some relevant information.

Close this thread (and send these goombahs back to school)
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I was was going to leave this alone but since you want to be such a fucking asshat here's a lesson fuck face. Go back and see what you quoted I deleted my first post because you're being such a dick dismissing what everyone says do you want me to quote where you quoted that or do you know how to fucking read? Then you wonder why you're not getting help. Crawl out of your own ass for five minutes and try to listen to what people are saying. You want to call me out and call me a prick then FUCK YOU my garden is doing just fine.

Go read what you quoted from me in the post right after where I tagged cobkits to see if he could help YOU you stupid fuck.

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thething said:
Hi guys, I am having real problems deciding on a light for a 2x2ft space.

I am interested in Quantum Boards and DIY but unless i can buy everything from a single UK store, they aren't an option right now (security reasons...)

I would like something under 200w true power and around £100, so I am looking at this.

BLOOMWIN COB (for some reason i can't post links.. apparently i need a -1% like:post ratio and i have 29%.. i've no idea what to do...)

Please type in Amazon uk "400w bloomwin COB" and it is the first link.

This COB has 0 reviews but to my uneducated eye it looks good. Should I get this or do you suggest another LED that is not a QB for a similar price? (Meizhi 450? Viparspectra? Mars?)

Please reply, i don't have much time left to make a decision.

Thanks
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I started in a 2x2 with a Mars Hydro 300 (130w), I run it for 2-3 cycles and it does still work. Decent light for 70€
If you don't want to get the max possible yield in that space you can get whatever you want, just don't put more money than what it is needed cause it's a waste of time. Get the cheapest 100-200watt panel. I would send an email to marshydro asking for an old 300 model, or check on aliexpress, they send it from Germany warehouse with dhl. Or check on amazon.
 
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