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SIP thread -- (Sub-Irrigated Planter)

Discussion in 'Indoor Growing' started by Humanrob, Apr 2, 2016.

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    Humanrob

    Humanrob Well-Known Member

    Sub-irrigated planter
    From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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    Sub-Irrigated Planter
    Sub-irrigated planter (SIP) is a generic name for a special type of planting box used in container gardening and commercial landscaping. A SIP is any method of watering plants where the water is introduced from the bottom, allowing the water to soak upwards to the plant through capillary action.[1] It is possible to automate the watering and thus SIPs are popular with professional landscapers in buildings or urban settings. SIPs are available as products, under brand names such as Planter Technology[2] (commercial) and EarthBox[3] (consumer), Ollie Plant Sipper[4](consumer), The Refuge Garden (www.urbanrefugegardening.com) (consumer/commercial) or as do-it-yourselfprojects made from plastic buckets and boxes.[5]



    Would love to hear about your experiments, projects, failures and successes. :)
     
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    dubekoms

    dubekoms Well-Known Member

    I was thinking of purchasing a earthbox myself, a sub irrigated planter. I just don't know how well it would do with organics. I brew a lot of aacts and use shit like fish hydrolysate. I don't think that would go over well sitting at the bottom for more then a day. I guess if you had some really nice soil and used only plain water it would do very well.
     
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    Humanrob

    Humanrob Well-Known Member

    I'm doing a couple right now. One is based on a 14 gallon Rubbermaid container inside of an 18 gallon. The other is tall narrow #7 pot mated to a 5 gallon bucket. Both still need to have their drain holes drilled -- btw, how much (in inches) of an air space should I leave between the water line and the bottom of the soil container?

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    Humanrob

    Humanrob Well-Known Member

    Being that I'm still in the process of building mine, I have no first hand experience yet, but I've been reading as much as I can on them. Hopefully @hyroot will join in, I believe he uses an organic soil mix in his. There are a lot of people experimenting with them, I've read bits here and there on different threads and journals, maybe we can focus the information here.

    I know @Tim Fox just ordered an Earthbox, but I think he's going to grow some tomatoes outside with it this summer, and do an indoor grow with it next fall or winter. Tim pointed me to some great online resources, like the instructions in the attached file from http://earthtainer.tomatofest.com/ I based a lot of my bin design on their instructions, but instead of using two 18 gallon and cutting one up, I used one 14 and one 18. I will definitely use their water level indicator design though.
     

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    Tim Fox

    Tim Fox Well-Known Member

    Yea man ,I just ordered a earth box, it's going to fit my grow box really well, I will put some pictures up when it gets here, @Humanrob those diy sips look really good, maybe hyroot can shed some light on your wick choice, of there is enough slots?,
    Everything I have read said one inch air gap
     
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    Humanrob

    Humanrob Well-Known Member

    Thanks, couldn't remember the gap. My previous design had too much air, this one might have too little, but that's easy to change.
     
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    dubekoms

    dubekoms Well-Known Member

    I'll definitely keep an eye on that. I was thinking maybe you could top feed with compost teas, just making sure not to go overboard so it doesn't reach the resivoir at the bottom. Its also perfect size for my area and I think holds nearly 2cft of soil? I might run 2 plants in it.
     
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    hyroot

    hyroot Well-Known Member

    No teas. Just add ewc and compost and malted seeds (instead of sst) to the soil and you're fine. The only need for compost teas ever is if the soil gets dried out and the microbes die off.


    Mine

    18 gal and 5 gals. Gorilla glue 4 and quantum kush

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    Tim Fox

    Tim Fox Well-Known Member

    Yes , the earthbox holds exactly 1 bag of soil product, 2 cubic feet, or around 17 gallons, Chose some type of living soil, I know in the octopots they ad nutes right to the res, I am going run Water only the whole ride in my earthbox,,, my last grow was water only the whole ride in 3 gallon containers with FFOF
     
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    Tim Fox

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    dubekoms

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    hyroot

    hyroot Well-Known Member


    Ewc - worm castings

    SST - seeds sprout tea

    Jeremy Silva (build a soil) said the earth box really holds about 1 cubic feet. And 3 gallons of water

    Here's his videos on the earth box

    http://buildasoil.com/blogs/news
     
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    Humanrob

    Humanrob Well-Known Member

    Hey hyroot, that video is from 9/15 and I did not see any follow-ups -- do you know if he posted more videos throughout the grow?
     
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    hyroot

    hyroot Well-Known Member


    That's all I can find.
     
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    Humanrob

    Humanrob Well-Known Member

    I guess we'll have to wait for @Tim Fox to do his run to find out how the box rocks. ;)
     
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    hyroot

    hyroot Well-Known Member


    He posted some pics a ways back in the probiotic farmers alliance group on facebook he had big buds and I think 2 plants in there. He had 3 but one hermed so he pulled it.
     
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    Humanrob

    Humanrob Well-Known Member

    Today I did the second one, and tried a different method for the wick -- three small ones instead of one big one. It'll be interesting to see how they work.

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    Tim Fox

    Tim Fox Well-Known Member

    more earthbox from buildasoil on vimeo
     
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    Tim Fox

    Tim Fox Well-Known Member

    lol, I laughed in the video when he said at 13:50,, it works like using an airstone ,,so why go thru the cost and trouble of appling anerobics?,, So i chuckled and said,, then why not just use the air pump, save the trouble, save the money, ya
     
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    Humanrob

    Humanrob Well-Known Member

    Go 15:45 in (+/-) and you'll also hear him advise to let the res get completely dry between fillings. So apparently these can be used simply as an alternative method of watering, without any hydro-hybrid pretensions. I plan to keep my wicks moist, but that's just me.

    Edit: but it is an interesting video, and it is good to know that if for some reason it runs dry, its not the end of the world.
     
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