SIP thread -- (Sub-Irrigated Planter)

[meangreengrowinmachine]

I run the same nutes through the entire plants life

I make a 55gal drum of nutrients

I turn on the spigot and fill up a gallon jug a pour into the trays for my sips

the 55gal is on a timer which feeds my flower room

nute strength never changes

it takes me all of about 5 min every 3 weeks to mix my nutrients

once every couple days I fill a jug for sips

I dont think it could get any easier unless I planted in ground and let rain water my plants

I dont have "All these nutes to mix up"

I run 1 dry powder @ 4g per gal

anyone using a bottle is taking way more time on it than I

anyone running organic.....brewing ewc tea and bennies and all that shit

taking way more time than I

99% of my time now is spent touching and talking to my plants

no bottles
no ratios
no checking ph or ec

nutrients fall to 5.8ph with an ec of 1.4-1.5

I dont really know how much easier it can get

Are you using jacks?

 

[meangreengrowinmachine]

New SIP first of three.

Looks like a 10ish gal res and about 30 - 35 gal soil. Airstone in the res.

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Hey you posted pics!!!

 

[Wisher2]

Are you using jacks?

no I am using Veg+Bloom by Hydroponic-Research

 

[PDX Joe]

I popped a few seeds and my plan is try the organic route for my indoor SIPs. I think this is what I'll try:

Medium: Sunshine Mix #4 with additional course perlite
Dolomite Lime
Down to Earth Starter Mix 3-3-3 - mixed into the soil around the transplanted root ball
Down to Earth Bio Live 5-4-2 - top dress in trench at top of pot
Down to Earth Rose & Flower - top dress around the beginning of flowering
Worm castings - top dress
Malibu Biodynamic Compost - top dress
Bokashi - top dress for mycelium
May use some azomite or basalt mixed into grow medium?
Recharge - occasional top drench for beneficial bacteria
Plain tap water in reservoir - air stones in res
May add coconut water in reservoir as needed.

So, it will be interesting to see how this goes. Any thoughts?

 

[Evil-Mobo]

I popped a few seeds and my plan is try the organic route for my indoor SIPs. I think this is what I'll try:

Medium: Sunshine Mix #4 with additional course perlite
Dolomite Lime
Down to Earth Starter Mix 3-3-3 - mixed into the soil around the transplanted root ball
Down to Earth Bio Live 5-4-2 - top dress in trench at top of pot
Down to Earth Rose & Flower - top dress around the beginning of flowering
Worm castings - top dress
Malibu Biodynamic Compost - top dress
Bokashi - top dress for mycelium
May use some azomite or basalt mixed into grow medium?
Recharge - occasional top drench for beneficial bacteria
Plain tap water in reservoir - air stones in res
May add coconut water in reservoir as needed.

So, it will be interesting to see how this goes. Any thoughts?

Will be watching as I am loving organics and miss the simplicity of the SIP.......

 

[Jp.the.pope]

I popped a few seeds and my plan is try the organic route for my indoor SIPs. I think this is what I'll try:

Medium: Sunshine Mix #4 with additional course perlite
Dolomite Lime
Down to Earth Starter Mix 3-3-3 - mixed into the soil around the transplanted root ball
Down to Earth Bio Live 5-4-2 - top dress in trench at top of pot
Down to Earth Rose & Flower - top dress around the beginning of flowering
Worm castings - top dress
Malibu Biodynamic Compost - top dress
Bokashi - top dress for mycelium
May use some azomite or basalt mixed into grow medium?
Recharge - occasional top drench for beneficial bacteria
Plain tap water in reservoir - air stones in res
May add coconut water in reservoir as needed.

So, it will be interesting to see how this goes. Any thoughts?

Coconut water into the res you say?

 

[PDX Joe]

Coconut water into the res you say?

Well, maybe... not completely sure on it. Supposedly it has some natural growth hormones and calcium. I'm thinking using as a supplement to the dolomite rather than using bottled Cal-Mag in the res. I'll use the shelf stable coconut water powder... mix with water to reconstitute.

 

[Jp.the.pope]

I use the same powder. Only to top feed. I was worried about all the sugars in the res. Keep us posted

 

[meangreengrowinmachine]

Im going to organic route and seems to be working like gang busters so far! and SIPS are so easy! Fill the res and just let em go! I'm still on my first run with the 14 gallon inntainers (they end up only being about 7 gallons of soil after all is said and done) and still in Veg so we will see if i need to supplement during flowering but hopefully should be good with just water and some air stones in the rez.

 

[meangreengrowinmachine]

my soil recipe should be earlier in this thread if anyone is interested

 

[PDX Joe]

I use the same powder. Only to top feed. I was worried about all the sugars in the res. Keep us posted

Good point... so the coconut water can get frothy? I suppose any sugars might make a mess in the res. I might rethink that one.

 

[meangreengrowinmachine]

im very hesitant to add anything but water to my rez tbh.. if i feel the need to add teas i will add them to the top.. but i think many people do add nutes or teas to their rez.. im just hesitant this first go round

 

[budLIFE60]

Hey havent posted in a bit here are my new sip conatianers I'm giving a try.
Ran into a few issues I didn't like with my old sips. I find this way to be much easier to deal with IMO.

Found this idea on the web. What I did was cut my 4inch perferated drain pipe long ways so it fit in my container. Then I capped every end so it looked like this

Next I drilled a hole in the top of one end of the drain pipe for my watering pipe to run into. At the other end I drilled a hole 1 inch from the top of the drain pipe and one through my container for an overflow.
(Don't mind my dogs paw in this shot)

And that's pretty much all the prep work! Then I just filled the containers with some super soil, my plants and covered with about 2 inches thick of mulch. Looks something like this


Plants seem to love it so far!

 

[meangreengrowinmachine]

nice man!

 

[Jp.the.pope]

Good point... so the coconut water can get frothy? I suppose any sugars might make a mess in the res. I might rethink that one.

Did you get the powder from BAS? Also that intainer design works for 45 gal bins

About 10 gal res / 30-35 soil

 

[Jp.the.pope]

Reason I ask is I got mine from BAS. It is sugary but only frothy when I also add agsil16H as an emulsifier / silica source

 

[Jp.the.pope]

New SIP first of three.

Looks like a 10ish gal res and about 30 - 35 gal soil. Airstone in the res.

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Clover cover crop is starting to come in. Will post new photos in a few days. Hopefully have some green clovers for St. Paddys

 

[PDX Joe]

Did you get the powder from BAS? Also that intainer design works for 45 gal bins

About 10 gal res / 30-35 soil

I actually haven't purchased the powder yet. But, I have been looking at the BAS product. It sounds like BAS makes sure their powder doesn't have any funky preservatives. I'm wondering if there might be another place to get it from, but I think a lot of the powders are geared more towards the health food market and might have some extra junk in it that may not be great in gardening. But, I am going off of speculation and based on an interview I heard with Jeremy at BAS and Clackamas Coot.

I wonder if the coconut water sugars might buildup in small tubing or will stay dissolved.

 

[Evil-Mobo]

I actually haven't purchased the powder yet. But, I have been looking at the BAS product. It sounds like BAS makes sure their powder doesn't have any funky preservatives. I'm wondering if there might be another place to get it from, but I think a lot of the powders are geared more towards the health food market and might have some extra junk in it that may not be great in gardening. But, I am going off of speculation and based on an interview I heard with Jeremy at BAS and Clackamas Coot.

I wonder if the coconut water sugars might buildup in small tubing or will stay dissolved.

I have been using the BAS coconut and aloe for a while now and am VERY pleased with the results. The foliar sprays with the mix is just heaven to the plants too. However, I would caution in adding this to the res on a SIP, because the instructions cleary state since there's no presatives etc the product does not last before going bad it's meant for immediate use. I have bubbled it in water before feedings with no issues and never clogged my sprayer either.

Their Clover crop seed mix is wonderful too and does the trick to keep the worms happy.

 

[PDX Joe]

I have been using the BAS coconut and aloe for a while now and am VERY pleased with the results. The foliar sprays with the mix is just heaven to the plants too. However, I would caution in adding this to the res on a SIP, because the instructions cleary state since there's no presatives etc the product does not last before going bad it's meant for immediate use. I have bubbled it in water before feedings with no issues and never clogged my sprayer either.

Their Clover crop seed mix is wonderful too and does the trick to keep the worms happy.

Okay, cool. So you mix the aloe and coconut water together as a foliar? I've heard a bit about the aloe. What does it do... is it simply a surfactant/ wetting agent to transfer the coco water to the leaves?