VIANARCHRIS
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There was a big uproar in BC when they were first proposed and time-of-day billing was ruled out.
Smart Meters
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cannadan
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once there is no longer wiggle room for the government,with respect to the cost....they will find it too tempting to not try and pull off something half of the country already has managed to implement ...
i'm mean conceptually its stupid...because the more people are convinced ,that off hours ,create, the cheaper rated supply...the more people would use those off hours for cheaper electricity and therefore create a peak usage period during the off hour period.
Like going to the bank at 9:00am to beat the line-ups...only to have so many people there lined up that it still takes...3 hours with you waiting in line....
totally counter productive
i'm mean conceptually its stupid...because the more people are convinced ,that off hours ,create, the cheaper rated supply...the more people would use those off hours for cheaper electricity and therefore create a peak usage period during the off hour period.
Like going to the bank at 9:00am to beat the line-ups...only to have so many people there lined up that it still takes...3 hours with you waiting in line....
totally counter productive
OldMedUser
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Move to sunny Alberta where the dial spins unregulated all day long!
I've had bear traps all around the pole my meter hangs on for 15 years and haven't caught a meter reader yet. My bill comes in like clockwork tho.
I think they're using drones since the first Iranian conflict.
We've had the NDP here for about 2 years and no sign of smart meters yet.
Land of the free and home of the Braves/Flames/Oilers/Who Cares! lol
I've had bear traps all around the pole my meter hangs on for 15 years and haven't caught a meter reader yet. My bill comes in like clockwork tho.
I think they're using drones since the first Iranian conflict.
We've had the NDP here for about 2 years and no sign of smart meters yet.
Land of the free and home of the Braves/Flames/Oilers/Who Cares! lol
Farmer.J
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Pretty sure that in rural areas they can point an electronic device towards the meter and get a reading as they drive past. A friend of mine worked for Atco and he used to do it.Move to sunny Alberta where the dial spins unregulated all day long!
I've had bear traps all around the pole my meter hangs on for 15 years and haven't caught a meter reader yet. My bill comes in like clockwork tho.
I think they're using drones since the first Iranian conflict.
We've had the NDP here for about 2 years and no sign of smart meters yet.
Land of the free and home of the Braves/Flames/Oilers/Who Cares! lol
Some reason in town the meter reader ppl still walk up to your house with a clip board and write it down. My cousin was growing 4 plants in his backyard and we watched the meter lady walk past them, check the meter and walk right past them again lol
TheRealDman
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In rural ON, meters are read via a receiver/modem on the pole. They claim 99% accuracy, but I dunno about that?!?!
OldMedUser
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Got to be something like that as I've never seen a meter reader in my yard and up to a couple years ago we had a big Siberian Husky chained up to the pole just 10 ft from the pole the meter is on and she would raise hell anytime anyone came in the yard.
A few years ago the gas company installed new meters that they read with a monthly fly-by and that's fine by me. Used to have the guy come by every month to read the meter and it's very close to the exhaust from my grow room that had no decent odor control. Not sure how it works but there's no electrical connection to the meter or antenna etc. Got me a big honking carbon filter now that will be online when I flower the girls next.
OldMedUser
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AFAIK the smart meters in Ont and elsewhere use cell towers to send their info in. Some people are very sensitive to the emissions from these.
Wasn't long ago the courts out there ruled that the police need to get a proper warrant to access your power use info where the hydro company used to flag those lighting patterns and just send the info into the police.
A lot of newer digital devices, including digital ballasts, identify themselves to the system so they know exactly what you are doing, how often and how long.
My place is wired for light industrial and as long as I pay the bill on time they couldn't care less how much power I use.
redi jedi
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Ontario has a surplus of power...Ive heard stories of Bruce power being paid not to operate...now privately run. Its completely fuct. Defies supply and demand.
OldMedUser
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My baby momma grew up in Port Hope where Bruce power used to bury their low-level radioactive waste so the whole place nears glows in the dark. Radon levels were tested in the basement of the school she attended for years and were many times higher than allowed.
I often wonder if that's what made her so cray-cray or if it was the Catholic upbringing she had.
I often wonder if that's what made her so cray-cray or if it was the Catholic upbringing she had.
redi jedi
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Radon is in everyones basement. Nothing to do with the active waste.My baby momma grew up in Port Hope where Bruce power used to bury their low-level radioactive waste so the whole place nears glows in the dark. Radon levels were tested in the basement of the school she attended for years and were many times higher than allowed.
I often wonder if that's what made her so cray-cray or if it was the Catholic upbringing she had.
More likely the uranium tailings...
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OldMedUser
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That's not what the testing showed. Radon is naturally occurring everywhere especially in stone or brick buildings but every basement in town was way over naturally occurring levels.
She keeps sending me friend requests on FB and my oldest boy who drives truck went to see her about 6 months ago as a load he ran from Vancouver went just an hour from where she lives in New Brunswick now.
I asked him if he thought I should add her as a fried and he said, "Don't do it dad she's f'n batshit crazy!" She left when he was only 10 and that's the first time he's seen her since and he's 36 now.
It is likely the tailings as they processed the raw ore there back in the early days and used them for backfill all over the place.
cannadan
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Having grown up within 1 km of a nuke plant....from the time it was built back in the early 70's....
I often wonder if the down turn in my health is related,to that fact...plus having fished at the nuke plant thru my formative years...mind you we did not eat any fish from there...but heavy water (deuterium) did escape the plant on occasion and we would have been sitting in a boat (front row) for that.
As far as radon...you are def right redi jedi...some provinces require a study done on your building lot to determine the levels of radon gas...before you would be able to build on that specific lot.
I often wonder if the down turn in my health is related,to that fact...plus having fished at the nuke plant thru my formative years...mind you we did not eat any fish from there...but heavy water (deuterium) did escape the plant on occasion and we would have been sitting in a boat (front row) for that.
As far as radon...you are def right redi jedi...some provinces require a study done on your building lot to determine the levels of radon gas...before you would be able to build on that specific lot.
cannadan
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supposedly Port Hope...has a lot of fill that is considered contaminated....and the radiation levels are def higher than other area's around.
but the storage of eldorado nuclear waste is most likely a contributing factor...
lol used to fish right in front of that facility too...
but the storage of eldorado nuclear waste is most likely a contributing factor...
lol used to fish right in front of that facility too...
OldMedUser
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Heavy water, D2O, itself isn't harmful. There are something like one deuterium atom for every 6,760 ordinary hydrogen atoms. We drink it in every glass of water and they use electrolysis to concentrate the deuterium.
The nuclear industry is a powerful lobbying group that is fighting for it's life as more benign power technologies are being discovered and brought online to fuel the ever increasing demands for energy. Not unlike Big Oil they will buy up promising new technologies just to keep them from prgressing and cutting out their profits. Human health be damned to satisfy their shareholders!
WHATFG
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It was the Catholic upbringing....I can attest...lol...My baby momma grew up in Port Hope where Bruce power used to bury their low-level radioactive waste so the whole place nears glows in the dark. Radon levels were tested in the basement of the school she attended for years and were many times higher than allowed.
I often wonder if that's what made her so cray-cray or if it was the Catholic upbringing she had.
OldMedUser
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Those Catholic girls are like Mormon girls. When they decide to sin they sin with abandon! Just don't marry one to preserve your own sanity.
WHATFG
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Hahahahaha....I am one...lol....
VIANARCHRIS
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LOL! Both my parents were born in Port Hope and that's where most of my relatives are. I was just there a couple of weeks ago for the first time in 35+ years - they're all still bat-shit crazy! And they are 'Anglican', so we can rule out Catholic influence!My baby momma grew up in Port Hope where Bruce power used to bury their low-level radioactive waste so the whole place nears glows in the dark. Radon levels were tested in the basement of the school she attended for years and were many times higher than allowed.
I often wonder if that's what made her so cray-cray or if it was the Catholic upbringing she had.
On a serious note, the nuclear plant is largely responsible for the health issues my mom and her siblings suffer from. About 30 years ago, (maybe more?) the government went on a big cleanup project in the town and removed a radioactive workbench from the basement of the house my Mom grew up in. I used to help my grandpa fix things on that bench as a kid.
OldMedUser
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That's creepy man. I loved visiting my grandparents on my mother's side in southern Alberta. We went out from Vancouver at least once a year for a couple weeks or more each time. Old farmhouse he built and a workshop with all sorts of tools but just one electric motor that he would move from machine to machine. I have one of his nutcracker bowls with little mallet that I helped him make on his home made wood lathe and really treasure it. I brought it home from my mom's last year and it's been collecting dust in the shop. Looks a lot better all cleaned up. Layers of different woods glued together and clamped for weeks before cutting into square blocks, corner sawed off with a hand saw to make an octagon them chucked into the lathe and turned into that.
My other grandpa on my dad's side was a cobbler and I loved hanging out at his store in Vancouver and help out while he made and/or repaired shoes boots etc. Puffing away on his cheap cigars and was the guy who got me hooked on fishing. I try to take his old fiberglass fly rod out every spring and catch a trout just for him.
I have no relationship with my grandkids and that sux. So much I could have taught them and a lot they could have taught me. Hopefully once they are old enough they will seek me out.
OldMedUser
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It's actually a small bowl in the larger bowl with the center post going down through both and glued in place but made as I described. I gotta polish that sucker up.
It's actually a small bowl in the larger bowl with the center post going down through both and glued in place but made as I described. I gotta polish that sucker up.