So, what's going on here now?

Kinz

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I've recently had some problems, and a good person by the name of Johni if I'm right, helped me get rid of 80% of my problems.After getting rid of the dirt, I realised I put in plastic cups on accident from my previous grow, which impacted the plant hardcore

Anyways, to get to the point. These plants don't look good. I haven't put any nutrients or anything in it yet.

Growing medium using perlite peat moss mix. (Light weight). It is also indoors with 3 cooling fans and 2 led lamps. 1 mars hydro 300W and 1 45Wat Led. Lighting cycle is veg, (18/6) sometimes 24hr

The plants' leaves look extremely thin. Idk if it's the fact of being a sativa, indica or a nutrient deficiency?
 

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Serva

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It's only perlit and peat moss? How much, and how often do you watering? You know the ph of your water?
 

Kinz

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Usually this water PH in Australia is around 7-8,
Idk PH of soil. I don't wanna go to hardcore in making it. Just want something like indoor bushbud, etc.
 

jensenbeach1

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The curling of the leaves means you are overwatering, its very hard to withhold from watering when u want to and let it do its thing and dry out a bit. You look like the plant is asking for potassium thats why the edges are burned and some leaves are bright yellow around edges
 

coreywebster

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was it @Johnei who helped last time?

I would concentrate on that PH going in. PH 7-8 is gona lock out most nutrients bar Nitrogen.
I will let him give better advice as I grow in coco not peat moss.
 

chemphlegm

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I've recently had some problems, and a good person by the name of Johni if I'm right, helped me get rid of 80% of my problems.After getting rid of the dirt, I realised I put in plastic cups on accident from my previous grow, which impacted the plant hardcore

Anyways, to get to the point. These plants don't look good. I haven't put any nutrients or anything in it yet.

Growing medium using perlite peat moss mix. (Light weight). It is also indoors with 3 cooling fans and 2 led lamps. 1 mars hydro 300W and 1 45Wat Led. Lighting cycle is veg, (18/6) sometimes 24hr

The plants' leaves look extremely thin. Idk if it's the fact of being a sativa, indica or a nutrient deficiency?
how exactly did using the old cups impact the plant? I use the same grow bags/cups/buckets over and over and over since 2008 nary a wash or wipe. what gives?
 

Serva

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The curling of the leaves means you are overwatering, its very hard to withhold from watering when u want to and let it do its thing and dry out a bit. You look like the plant is asking for potassium thats why the edges are burned and some leaves are bright yellow around edges
was it @Johnei who helped last time?

I would concentrate on that PH going in. PH 7-8 is gona lock out most nutrients bar Nitrogen.
I will let him give better advice as I grow in coco not peat moss.
My opinion is a mix of these both. I would also assume, that you over watering, thats why I asked how much and how often do you water (missing your answer, so it's just some guessing up to this point). And overwatering itself, can lock nutrients, but also it stops oxygen to reach the roots. No need to go "hardcore", there is some bottled liquid (5$) to check the ph of the water. If you don't know what you are doing, just stay with some premix earth, so you know whats inside...

Edit: I just saw that it's your 4th (!!!) thread now, with the same question/problem. You already got the answer. You asked "should I get this mix, it's 50% peat moss, 50% perlite?", Johnei's answer was, get some proper mix! You didn't... every second person is telling you, that you overwater your plants, your answer "I didn't water for two weeks", though the pictures showed some wet soil....

So, I am out! Start with the basics, read some tutorials, get a book, AND if you ask for help, maybe listen to the people! 4 threads, 4 times same answer, and you do differently. No one can help you aslong you behave like that :/
 
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Kinz

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My opinion is a mix of these both. I would also assume, that you over watering, thats why I asked how much and how often do you water (missing your answer, so it's just some guessing up to this point). And overwatering itself, can lock nutrients, but also it stops oxygen to reach the roots. No need to go "hardcore", there is some bottled liquid (5$) to check the ph of the water. If you don't know what you are doing, just stay with some premix earth, so you know whats inside...

Edit: I just saw that it's your 4th (!!!) thread now, with the same question/problem. You already got the answer. You asked "should I get this mix, it's 50% peat moss, 50% perlite?", Johnei's answer was, get some proper mix! You didn't... every second person is telling you, that you overwater your plants, your answer "I didn't water for two weeks", though the pictures showed some wet soil....

So, I am out! Start with the basics, read some tutorials, get a book, AND if you ask for help, maybe listen to the people! 4 threads, 4 times same answer, and you do differently. No one can help you aslong you behave like that :/
Dude, ffs. Overwater? Yeah I'll admit, I was using shit soil. Proper Mix? Doesn't a perlite * peatmoss count as a proper mix? Wet mix? Nope. It was a shitty forest bark mix fr $5 at Woolworths.
I can tell it's overwatering because I wanted to see the status of what other people view this progress as.
And that's why I ask on the forums. If I was still at the same status, I wouldn't even bother asking.
Behaviour? No mate, I'm just lost trying to recover damages, don't assume I'm ignorant.
I don't mind if you drop out in helping me. I'm trying my hardest. You can tell by the gear I use.
If helping me is a pain in the ass to you, I'm cool if you don't want to.
 
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Kinz

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was it @Johnei who helped last time?

I would concentrate on that PH going in. PH 7-8 is gona lock out most nutrients bar Nitrogen.
I will let him give better advice as I grow in coco not peat moss.
Yeah, it's not Johnei's fault for my stupid mistakes. But telling me to change a soil to something more light and fluffier (I think that's what he said) will help me with overwatering problems.

If it's absolutely necessary, I'll change to coco coir * peatmoss asap.
 
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coreywebster

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I wasn't for a second suggesting John was at fault. I was just giving him a shout out to draw his attention to your thread.
 

Flagg420

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Usually this water PH in Australia is around 7-8,
Idk PH of soil. I don't wanna go to hardcore in making it. Just want something like indoor bushbud, etc.
get out now. Kill it and stop wasting time.

If you aren't willing to be serious about it, just dont. Growing plants is like having kids, its not meant for doing half assed.

This stuff isnt magic, you can't just toss a few seeds, add no food, and mostly ignore, then expect to have a wind fall of sparkly nugs....

If just vegging the plant it too much effort, trimming will kill you.

Just go with a different hobby man...

The Ph of water is to a plant what cooking meat is to us. (in many ways) for the plant to uptake nutrients, the Ph must be within a certain range. (And the nutes need to be present of course)

You will not be able to just snapchat the entire grow, and have others grow the plant by proxy....

Everyone on this site is guessing whats wrong based on whats in a pic... you need to know whats wrong by what you observe... the soil, the runoff, undersides of leaves, tips, color, sheen, fucking angle of leaf stem! Theres so much more than can be seen in a pic.

Growing is serious mate, gotta either get in, or get out..... can't do it half way, just wastes money.
 

Kinz

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get out now. Kill it and stop wasting time.

If you aren't willing to be serious about it, just dont. Growing plants is like having kids, its not meant for doing half assed.

This stuff isnt magic, you can't just toss a few seeds, add no food, and mostly ignore, then expect to have a wind fall of sparkly nugs....

If just vegging the plant it too much effort, trimming will kill you.

Just go with a different hobby man...

The Ph of water is to a plant what cooking meat is to us. (in many ways) for the plant to uptake nutrients, the Ph must be within a certain range. (And the nutes need to be present of course)

You will not be able to just snapchat the entire grow, and have others grow the plant by proxy....

Everyone on this site is guessing whats wrong based on whats in a pic... you need to know whats wrong by what you observe... the soil, the runoff, undersides of leaves, tips, color, sheen, fucking angle of leaf stem! Theres so much more than can be seen in a pic.

Growing is serious mate, gotta either get in, or get out..... can't do it half way, just wastes money.
Alright then, I'll classify it as done. I'll stick to buying buds rather than growing.
This is my last attempt anyways.

Besides, there's been one plant thats been different to the rest of em. I've been paying attention to it. It's been around 6 weeks, and it's grown about a foot. I think this one was a control variable. (I'll put a picture tomorrow)

What's the thing needed to drop the PH? Lemon juice? (I'll get a PH metre first)
 
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coreywebster

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Sorry, Its kind of hard to understand the intention of meaning when writing something on a forums.
You are totally right about that.

You want some PH down and a either a cheap test kit or a more expensive PH pen.
For PH down you can use Phosphoric acid which you can get where you are from either a hydro store or a Aquarium shop.
Or Sulphuric acid like you get in a car battery. I would go for the first one.
There are loads of Aussie growers on here, I'm sure you can pull it together with a bit more knowledge. No need to give up.
 

BobCajun

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This part of your post is the key; "I haven't put any nutrients or anything in it yet". Pretty simple explanation, neither perlite or peat moss contain any nutrients. You have to use hydroponic fertilizer with it. You may have got "enriched" perlite, in which case it would have some major nutrients but nothing else. Unless it's Miracle Grow enriched perlite there's nothing at all in it. Also, looked like possible light burn.
 

jensenbeach1

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This part of your post is the key; "I haven't put any nutrients or anything in it yet". Pretty simple explanation, neither perlite or peat moss contain any nutrients. You have to use hydroponic fertilizer with it. You may have got "enriched" perlite, in which case it would have some major nutrients but nothing else. Unless it's Miracle Grow enriched perlite there's nothing at all in it. Also, looked like possible light burn.
I agree both of your ingredients on your medium are blank/void of any nutrients they are simply ssomething to hold onto nutrients and water but are not going to do it itself. I spoke with a farmer who uses same mix as yours and he has major issues with molding. Peat moss is pretty acidic so ising that and perlite youre already going to run into a myriad of issues. Ph is crucial to nutrient uptake. I would suggest finding a chelated hydroponic nutrient ("ph perfect"). Start off very low as the plant isnt used to any nutrients yet and build if up. Sorry youre facing such backlash I wouldnt take it too personal people juat want to help and seems like theyve tried before. Were here with good intentions Id say stick to it man, dont lose focus. I feel theyre saying to toss it and start over because youre already giving yourself headaches just from your medium. Which is step one. Overwatering is a very common issue I actually did it to two plants yesterday myself though id hate to admit. Ill just be more weary next water and wait longer on those.
 

jensenbeach1

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Idk how much time/money/bond you have with these plants but i feel starting fresh with a spot on medium will put you past the progress of those if done properly.
 

BobCajun

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Most people use coconut fiber instead of peat now. I only use it as peat pellets for cuttings. It's okay just does tend to be acidic. It can be good because bugs and fungus probably don't like acidity though. I don't think it would cause a problem really, as long as you use a complete nutrient solution. If there's mold then just water less frequently with a weaker solution.
 

Kinz

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Resolved problem:

It was being underwatered. As a last resort I added a 200ml of water and a bit of nutes(earth care: powerfeed Npk) (in a cup) and it seems to be sprouting back to life. Now I see another problem. The leafs are like... how do I explain it.. ( this was during the "overwatering"
 

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fatpete9

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was it @Johnei who helped last time?

I would concentrate on that PH going in. PH 7-8 is gona lock out most nutrients bar Nitrogen.
I will let him give better advice as I grow in coco not peat moss.
hi mate im a new time grower growing in coco and using canna a and b and rhizathonic could you give me some advice please my plants look like this well they started yellowing at 1st which i thought was nitrogen dif so i bought nitrozyme put in full strengh my next 2 feeds and now they gone dark green and turning yellow in the middle do you have any ideas what this could be? there about 6-7 days old now from a cutin? and help appriciated thanks.
 
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