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Soil/Hydro hybrid AKA Soil DWC idea

Discussion in 'Hydroponics / Aeroponics' started by WeedFreak78, Aug 24, 2011.

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    WeedFreak78

    WeedFreak78 Well-Known Member

    Ok making this quick looking for input. 5Gal bucket set up like DWC but instead of water/nutes fill it with a very watery organic soil and bubble the shit out of it. Pros/cons? just a crazy idea I had.
     
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    legallyflying

    legallyflying Well-Known Member

    soil settles to the bottom and covers air stone. water loses oxygen, plants die.

    Not sure if this would really happen but it very well could and at times, if something can happen it does in the grow room. I don't see the advantage of it really. You have the complexity of DWC mixed with the mess of soil. Uggh.
     
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    ClosetSafe

    ClosetSafe Active Member

    how would you change the mud solution? Weekly? Top off with water and check ppm?
     
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    legallyflying

    legallyflying Well-Known Member

    Ohhh, that is a good one. Can you imaging what a fucking mess that would be. Ugggh. I suppose you could shop vac it out. That is how I fully empty my dwc set up.
     
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    BeaverHuntr

    BeaverHuntr Well-Known Member

    Isnt the whole point of DWC is to have the roots constantly hit by oxygenated water? If regular hydroponics nute solution clogs up a air stone then good luck with mud.
     
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    BeaverHuntr

    BeaverHuntr Well-Known Member

    I'm using the shop vac method on my Ebb and FLow reservoir. Works pretty quick and teh shop vac has wheels so I just roll it to the bathroom and flush it down the toilet.
     
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    legallyflying

    legallyflying Well-Known Member

    yeah, its a money way to handle it for sure. Slurp slurp slurp... pour.

    BUT! once I had vaccumed a bunch of leaves up and some trash and forgot they were in there. Then I vaccumed a couple of galllons of water and left the shop vac sit in the corner for about two weeks. I have NEVER smelled anything as horrid. Ever. And I worked in Manilla for a couple years and man, do they have some smells over there!
     
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    BeaverHuntr

    BeaverHuntr Well-Known Member

    I'm so bad last grow after the trimming and everything was jarred up and swept up, I didnt empty my bubble buckets 2 weeks later flys were living in the stagnant water.
     
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    ClosetSafe

    ClosetSafe Active Member

    Damn, didn't realize using the wetvac to change the reservoir was a common practice...
     
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    legallyflying

    legallyflying Well-Known Member

    It's pretty handy for dwc type set ups and what not where your not dealing with lot of water. I have a sump pump and a garden hose that drains my big Rez to the sanitary sink.

    Shop vacs rock for all sorts of things though. An awesome purchase if you own a home
     
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    WeedFreak78

    WeedFreak78 Well-Known Member

    ok my thought process was the organic soil would provide the nutes throughout the
    grow,so there would be no changeout, and you'd have to run a higher pressure air pump probable without airstones, maybe a circle of hardline with holes drilled in it? IDK, I've always wondered if you could infuse more air to the rootzone in soil if there are advantages..
     
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    legallyflying

    legallyflying Well-Known Member

    Huh. Its an interesting idea. More interesting than trying to grow plants upside down.

    At least it would be easy to name:

    DMC. Deep mud culture.

    I'm almost certain that the roots would die from lack of oxygen.
     
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    BeaverHuntr

    BeaverHuntr Well-Known Member

    I love your posts ...lol
     
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    WeedFreak78

    WeedFreak78 Well-Known Member

    ehh just trowin it out there,maybe I'll try it outside next year, I got an 80 Gal compressor so air isn't much of a problem.. lol
     
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    Phishwich

    Phishwich New Member

    This is what I've just started, I have 4, 5 gallon smart pots. I put an air disc in each one, filled up with 3 inches of perlite, the rest is ffof with added lime and perlite. I fill 5 gallon buckets with 2 gal of ph'd water at 6.0 and put the smart pots directly in the water and turn my 951 gph air pump on. I leave em, top off the water daily. They love it.
     
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    prostheticninja

    prostheticninja Well-Known Member

    Been there. I gave the stem a light pull and it detached from the roots like a loose tooth. They were nothing but a semi-solid mush around the netting. And talk about putrid. I have never smelt anything that bad. Ever. Still have the bucket being quarantined outside in the snow lol.

    A friend of mine has taken a few microbiology classes, and when I showed her the bucket (after I had "cleaned it") she said it smells like the the whiff of gas you get when you breed anaerobes and open up the petri dish.

    Mmmmm, tasty.
     

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