South African indoor experiment

PSUAGRO. said:

poor choice of words, I apologize ...........I blame Jaws

definitely sounds beautiful, lucky

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Hahaha no worries bud, I was wondering why you would concentrate on man or male eaters lol.

Potency87 said:

Nice one bud, how much do they go for where you live? I wounder what the S.A price will be as things always sky rockets as if the economy is a part of NASA lol.

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My guess is they'll be about R6000-R7000 for the complete setup with everything you need. That would be a good price I think as most of the hydro shops sell rubbish for that price in Jozi and CT. Seen rubbish 1000W ballasts selling for R4000+ and then you still need a hood and bulb

mjinc said:

My guess is they'll be about R6000-R7000 for the complete setup with everything you need. That would be a good price I think as most of the hydro shops sell rubbish for that price in Jozi and CT. Seen rubbish 1000W ballasts selling for R4000+ and then you still need a hood and bulb

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Damn that is quite expensive! I guess I will opt for building one or have a buddy build it for me.

Potency87 said:

Thanks bud, I still have a pure sativa in the outside greenhouse box along with some other girls.
Regarding stronger or better lighting, I plan to use those big CFLs of 84watt each as the HPS system draws too much power.
Would it be better to go with LED in terms of energy saving?

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I made the switch from cfls to LED and all i can say is that its alot better than the cfls. Less heat more light.
Havent used MH or HIDs so i dont know how LEDs stack up against those, but im alot happier using leds.
Problem is sourcing the LEDs locally. We are so behind in the market its almost impossible to locally source COBS.
Another great option is Quantum Boards as someone already mentioned.

HID and CFL are both roughly equivalent in terms of efficiency. LED is generally much better than either, especially COB LED or Quantum Boards.

ttystikk said:

HID and CFL are both roughly equivalent in terms of efficiency. LED is generally much better than either, especially COB LED or Quantum Boards.

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I would never ever ever run 1200w of cfl though. Bit puzzled as to how they could be on a similar par?

DST said:

I would never ever ever run 1200w of cfl though. Bit puzzled as to how they could be on a similar par?

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They produce very nearly the same Par per Watt.

I've run big CFL arrays before, it was good for veg and not much else.

When I tyed par it was only after posting that I realised I was using a golf reference but it is also a light measurement reading as well. I can only imagine the spaghetti mess of wiring for 1200w of cfls lol.

Update pics. The girl on the right is almost done. Will harvest by next week depending on trichomes: I think the girl on the left has about 3 more weeks to go..... What do you guys think?

Looking good man. I'm no expert so cannot comment on finishing time but very good looking plant there.
I see your Temps are around 27 degrees. Mine is pretty much the same. Do you think the slightly highe temps affect yield much?
I was around 31 degrees when I was running cfls but now my Temps are at 25-28.

I'd say you are about right with your summation. First lot of pics are looking good to go. Last pic looks like it needs a while longer indeed.

Q9550 said:

Looking good man. I'm no expert so cannot comment on finishing time but very good looking plant there.
I see your Temps are around 27 degrees. Mine is pretty much the same. Do you think the slightly highe temps affect yield much?
I was around 31 degrees when I was running cfls but now my Temps are at 25-28.

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Thanks bud, I hope she smokes as nice as she looks lol. Regarding temp, I previously had high temps and had problems with heat (slow growth and foxtailing, slow trichome production) These were my experiences and it was confirmed by a few. I now have my temps between 25 to 28 degrees celsius. However my yield was much bigger, only much less fruitful... Not a gamble Im willing to take again.

DST said:

I'd say you are about right with your summation. First lot of pics are looking good to go. Last pic looks like it needs a while longer indeed.

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Yeah thanks bud, the girl on the left looks about 3 more weeks to go and the girl to the right should be done by next week sometime. Just need to keep checking trichomes.

Never really bothered checking trichomes myself. Plants have far to.many to count. I tend to go by the overall look as trichomes react differently with different strains as well.

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Never really bothered checking trichomes myself. Plants have far to.many to count. I tend to go by the overall look as trichomes react differently with different strains as well.

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I don't think you should be counting them. I think you should look at the percentage or coverage of milky to amber trichomes.

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Never really bothered checking trichomes myself. Plants have far to.many to count. I tend to go by the overall look as trichomes react differently with different strains as well.

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Pulling earlier tends to give a racier high, while pulling later tends to be more of a heavy stone with more cannabinoids. These are general guidelines and of course strain and environment play significant roles.

I totally understand that. As an example of what I mean as I am not sure I was clear. Hairs are receded and calyxes swollen to the point stigmas (hairs) are enveloped within the calyx. I've had strains finish like this with still mainly clear or cloudy trichomes. I've had strains finish like this with a higher % of amber. That's why I don't bother checking trichomes. The overall look of the plant is how i assess. I never pull early unless there's an emergency....Nothing worse than a racey high followed by a headache. Just the way I do it, not knocking anyone who gets down with a microscope.

Potency87 said:

I don't think you should be counting them. I think you should look at the percentage or coverage of milky to amber trichomes.

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It was a bit of a joke tbh. I always giggle when people come out with...."oh it was 30%clear 60% milky and 10% amber".........really, you counted every Trichome on every part of the plant

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It was a bit of a joke tbh. I always giggle when people come out with...."oh it was 30%clear 60% milky and 10% amber".........really, you counted every Trichome on every part of the plant

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lol haha yeah I get what you mean bud, it is quite fascinating how people tend to "calculate" the different stages the trichomes are in according to their percentages. I also go by the overall look of the plant but mainly check trichomes when assessing the finishing stages.

ttystikk said:

Pulling earlier tends to give a racier high, while pulling later tends to be more of a heavy stone with more cannabinoids. These are general guidelines and of course strain and environment play significant roles.

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Yep, I have noticed that this also is strain and environment dependent. Some strains are harvested earlier or later also depending on grower preference. I have a buddy that harvested his supercheese when it was clear and milky. No amber whatsoever but damn did that girl reek!! She was done according to him and man oh man, she was excellent!!