Soy lecithin Were??

mike91sr

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Its well accepted that Soy increases your estrogen levels. This is a definite negative for men and often is for women too. Sure, if you use moderation the effects will be small to unnoticable. But a lot of folks eat a few medibles a day, and that's not really a small amount. Also true is that almost all Soy is GMO. And there are many questions surrounding GMO food at this point (never should have been allowed into the food chain at this stage in development, if ever).
I didn't say the estrogen part wasn't true. You said it's quite bad for you, when in reality it isn't. Yes, it comes with good and bad things. From a clinical perspective, that means very little. Everything has pros and cons. Slightly increased estrogen levels, when very mild, cause little/no problems. Low estrogen levels can cause just as, if not more severe problems than high estrogen levels. Besides, high estrogen levels are pretty easily counteracted; raise your testosterone levels(drink whole milk and eat red meat). Animal fat has one of the largest known effects on free t levels.

Side note, but another similar situation to alcohol/caffeine/red meat: egg yolks have choline in them, enough to actually offset the amount of cholesterol in the yolks that people are afraid of which causes them to eat the less nutritious whites. Yet all of these things will cause serious health problems without moderation. The fact that somebody eats multiple edibles a day means the rules of moderation are no longer going to apply. I'm not saying don't do it, I'm just saying don't be surprised by side effects if you choose to use in excess. Yes, using marijuana all day every day is in excess (guilty as charged).

What ever happened to the food pyramid anyway? Moderation, moderation, moderation. I've been a cpt for a few years now, and I can tell you that about 50% of clients I've had will say 'carbs are bad, I went on a high carb diet and got fat' or 'you need to eat all the carbs you can, when I went on a low-carb diet, I had no energy and got sick all the time' or 'red meat is bad, I started eating it 3x a day and got fat'. See what I'm saying? People go from one extreme to the other, then say that it's horrible because of their single, uneducated, radical attempt at something. The food pyramid has withstood the test of time(for the most part), as opposed to all the ridiculous trendy diets out there. I actually hate the term diet, because it implies that its temporary. I tell people to develop good eating habits in order to gain/lose weight and be healthy, not go on varying diets. /rant lol

I agree GMO shouldnt be used in food production, but neither should carcinogenic pesticides. But without those things, we'd be having a hell of a time getting cheap food. And besides, we're JUST learning about a lot of these things and their side effects (as in recent years, not weeks). It's going to take a good while before we understand long-term effects, and even longer before a solution is found. And like you said, ALMOST all soy is GMO. So get soy that isn't.
 

mellokitty

Moderatrix of Journals
if you live in an area where the people are generally health conscious, you might find lecithin in the vitamin aisle of your local supermarket.
i used to live in vancouver (crawling with healthnut yuppies) and the local shopper's drug mart had 3 formats of lecithin by 2 brands. now that i live in the boonies, i had to hit 3 health stores before i found any, and the one that i found it at only had one brand.... in granules (which is my least favourite format). (it was non-gmo from NOW! foods which was a bonus......)
 

snew

Well-Known Member
I order my lecithin from Amazon. Shipping and everything $25 for 3lbs (NON GMO). No I don't make that many edibles. I do use a lot of soy lecithin in Liposomal Vitamin C. I consume about 3 tbs a day and well the estrogen has not effected me negatively. You should look at the sunflower Lecithin if your concerned.
Really I not sure that there is any estrogen in lecithin. This is not the whole bean just the phospholipid which does contain phytoestrogen, however, your not eating this stuff by the bowl full. Its a very small component of the lecithin. The benefits of lecithin far out weigh any perceived negative effects of
phytoestrogen in the small amount of soy ingested.
 

dirtsurfr

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Living out in the boonies has it's plus side and inconvenient side of no choice to you have to drive 2 hours to find it LOL.
The nice thing is the infomation I can get here!!
I wish everyone to have happy grows and a cart load of good karma, Thanks!
 

Strudelheim

Well-Known Member
I hear Sunflower Lecithin is preferred over soy. I think that should eliminate many of the concerns discussed here.
 
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