Spider mites attacking outdoor plant brought indoors under hps

prosinz · Sep 17, 2017

I had to bring in my UK Cheese outdoor plant that was on my back deck because it's started raining, and now is getting attacked by spider mites. It started flowering outside so it's about a week and a half into flowering.. plus its getting PM spots everywhere. Should I just chop it down now and use it for bubble hash? Should make ok hash, huh? The mites arent that bad yet, only on a few leaves and I plucked most off, but I know it wont get rid of them and theyre gonna come back in full force. I cant put it back outside, the weather is gonna be shitty all week. Im prepared to just cut my loses and make bubble hash. I have azamax but am afraid to use this so late in flower

Father Ramirez · Sep 17, 2017

Sounds like you're itching to make hash.

Coriander oil mixed with water in a spray bottle approx 1:10 will kill most mites and restrict their return, but you must remain diligent. It is non toxic, and if anything, adds a pleasant flavor, unlike neem. Spray pre lights-on so liquid has had time to evaporate or be absorbed by 'dawn', or damage could occur due to light magnification.

prosinz · Sep 18, 2017

Im afraid spraying any kind of liquid right now is gonna make the PM go crazy and possibly bud rot? already got big bud cluster that im afraid to get wet

Cletus clem · Sep 18, 2017

prosinz said:
Im afraid spraying any kind of liquid right now is gonna make the PM go crazy and possibly bud rot? already got big bud cluster that im afraid to get wet

Get a bottle of either nuke em or big tim exterminator for the mites and pm and a bag of silica from build a soil, more for pm but does make a mites life difficult. Both are safe, natural and effective. Also ok right up till day of harvest. Green cleaner is also good but a bit more pricey.

Cletus clem · Sep 18, 2017

The silica raises the ph of the leaf surface, making it inhospitable for pm as well as leaving what is like broken glass encrusted armor on the leaves to spider mites. The other foliar products i mentioned are basically highly refined safer soap style sprays that use alcohol, enzymes, oil, citric acid and wetting agents in different combinations to drown and dry out mites and their eggs. Basically kills on contact and non residual/can be washed off.

Budley Doright · Sep 19, 2017

Why did you bring it in due to rain? Plants like rain lol. You could try spraying with cold water, do it once a day and it may help.

chemphlegm · Sep 19, 2017

prosinz said:
1)

I) had to bring in my UK Cheese outdoor plant that was on my back deck because it's started raining, and now is getting attacked by spider mites.
2)It started flowering outside so it's about a week and a half into flowering..
3)plus its getting PM spots everywhere.
4)Should I just chop it down now and use it for bubble hash? Should make ok hash, huh?
5)The mites arent that bad yet, only on a few leaves and I plucked most off, but I know it wont get rid of them and theyre gonna come back in full force. I cant put it back outside, the weather is gonna be shitty all week. Im prepared to just cut my loses and make bubble hash.
6)I have azamax but am afraid to use this so late in flower

sorry this happened but to clear up a few things..
6-a week and a half into flowering is not "so late in flower" check out a grow bible for better results.
5- bubble hash? from green vegetable matter? dude..its a week into flowering, there is no hash aye?-grow bible for better results
4- there is no hash on this baby dying plant, if there was, nobody wants moldy hash with mites
3- if your environment indoors sucks as bad as your outdoor you can expect the very same results indoors
2-thats nice
1- all outdoor plants get rained on, who brings in all of those when it rains?

scrap it and start over, after the grow bible read I suggest. guessing you dont have proper lights, air flow, heat, humidity control, odor control, its a flop until you do.

prosinz · Sep 19, 2017

I meant a month and a half into flowering. And your ignorant guess is wrong I have proper lights and air flow. 600 watt cooltube hps with a 440 cfm venting into the attic. And rain definately causes bud rot this late in flower

Cletus clem · Sep 19, 2017

prosinz said:
I meant a month and a half into flowering. And your ignorant guess is wrong I have proper lights and air flow. 600 watt cooltube hps with a 440 cfm venting into the attic. And rain definately causes bud rot this late in flower

If your plant is not healthy, pumped full of nitrogen and no care has been taken to prevent such things then yes, this has truth. But really, no one brings their outdoor plants indoors. Theyre usually planted in the ground or large airpots. Amino acids and increased calcium will build a stronger, healthier cell structure, as will silica. Foliar potassium silicate will also drop the ph of the leaf surface, as mentioned above. Botrytis and powdery mildew need to tap into the vegetation to take hold, else they are but spores without a home. Your principals and practices are a little, errr, off. Cant really blame people for being sarcastic. Especially when thrown in with a significant typo. Also, spidermites are sure to be far worse indoors as mother nature has many natural ways to keep them in check. If your plant is getting attacked by spidermites outdoors, then id bet i was correct in thinking your plant may not be all that healthy and that you have no ipm in place.

prosinz · Sep 20, 2017

Cletus clem said:
If your plant is not healthy, pumped full of nitrogen and no care has been taken to prevent such things then yes, this has truth. But really, no one brings their outdoor plants indoors. Theyre usually planted in the ground or large airpots. Amino acids and increased calcium will build a stronger, healthier cell structure, as will silica. Foliar potassium silicate will also drop the ph of the leaf surface, as mentioned above. Botrytis and powdery mildew need to tap into the vegetation to take hold, else they are but spores without a home. Your principals and practices are a little, errr, off. Cant really blame people for being sarcastic. Especially when thrown in with a significant typo. Also, spidermites are sure to be far worse indoors as mother nature has many natural ways to keep them in check. If your plant is getting attacked by spidermites outdoors, then id bet i was correct in thinking your plant may not be all that healthy and that you have no ipm in place.

No amount of silica and calcium is gonna keep bud rot away in the pacific northwest

Budley Doright · Sep 20, 2017

prosinz said:
I meant a month and a half into flowering. And your ignorant guess is wrong I have proper lights and air flow. 600 watt cooltube hps with a 440 cfm venting into the attic. And rain definately causes bud rot this late in flower

Our weather here is wet and humid as well but I don't stress the rain until I actually see the start of anything amiss. If I do start to get rot I pull them and salvage what I can. Putting it inside is fine though if you can, I find some strains are more prone to rot and try not to grow them again. I really have had good luck with cold water but on smaller plants.
And yup never had mites outdoors, touch wood

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Budley Doright · Sep 20, 2017

Cletus clem said:
If your plant is not healthy, pumped full of nitrogen and no care has been taken to prevent such things then yes, this has truth. But really, no one brings their outdoor plants indoors. Theyre usually planted in the ground or large airpots. Amino acids and increased calcium will build a stronger, healthier cell structure, as will silica. Foliar potassium silicate will also drop the ph of the leaf surface, as mentioned above. Botrytis and powdery mildew need to tap into the vegetation to take hold, else they are but spores without a home. Your principals and practices are a little, errr, off. Cant really blame people for being sarcastic. Especially when thrown in with a significant typo. Also, spidermites are sure to be far worse indoors as mother nature has many natural ways to keep them in check. If your plant is getting attacked by spidermites outdoors, then id bet i was correct in thinking your plant may not be all that healthy and that you have no ipm in place.

Where do you live? Some climates are just way more conductive in producing plants with bud rot. Also bud rot can be caused by bud worms, which is more the case where I am. Even the healthiest of plants succumb to it here. I am surprised about the mites though if they started outside.

VegasWinner · Sep 20, 2017

prosinz said:
I had to bring in my UK Cheese outdoor plant that was on my back deck because it's started raining, and now is getting attacked by spider mites. It started flowering outside so it's about a week and a half into flowering.. plus its getting PM spots everywhere. Should I just chop it down now and use it for bubble hash? Should make ok hash, huh? The mites arent that bad yet, only on a few leaves and I plucked most off, but I know it wont get rid of them and theyre gonna come back in full force. I cant put it back outside, the weather is gonna be shitty all week. Im prepared to just cut my loses and make bubble hash. I have azamax but am afraid to use this so late in flower

I use neem oil mixed with Method 1 and some Chrysanthemum oil does a good job. Keep it up twice weekly until week five flower and it is all organic so it will dissipate thru the rest of flower. spread some neem seed meal on your soil after you are done to kill any eggs. I hate aphids and mites.

Cletus clem · Sep 20, 2017

Budley Doright said:
Where do you live? Some climates are just way more conductive in producing plants with bud rot. Also bud rot can be caused by bud worms, which is more the case where I am. Even the healthiest of plants succumb to it here. I am surprised about the mites though if they started outside.

Did you mean to quote me? Im not having any issues, was responding to prosinz comments.

prosinz said:
No amount of silica and calcium is gonna keep bud rot away in the pacific northwest

well maybe your problems will magically go away. Who knows right? Good luck.

Budley Doright · Sep 20, 2017

Cletus clem said:
Did you mean to quote me? Im not having any issues, was responding to prosinz comments.

well maybe your problems will magically go away. Who knows right? Good luck.

Yes I was quoting you. Just wondering what your climate is like because up here bud rot is inevitable with some strains and the weather no matter how healthy the plant.

*BUDS · Sep 20, 2017

I use this stuff and it wipes them out eggs larvae, the lot with one spray. Wear a mask as its dicofol which is a form of DDT.

whitebb2727 · Sep 20, 2017

Budley Doright said:
Why did you bring it in due to rain? Plants like rain lol. You could try spraying with cold water, do it once a day and it may help.

It will help. One of the most effective and easiest things to do for mites is spray them off with water.

Water and spray doesn't hurt cannabis plants. Prolonged exposure to moisture can cause pm or bud rot. Spraying them off once a day won't hurt a bit.

Cletus clem · Sep 20, 2017

Budley Doright said:
Yes I was quoting you. Just wondering what your climate is like because up here bud rot is inevitable with some strains and the weather no matter how healthy the plant.

New england. Similar climate. I realize its not entirely preventable but there are things you can do to increase your chance for success.

Budley Doright · Sep 20, 2017

whitebb2727 said:
If will help. One of the most effective and easiest things to do for mites is spray them off with water.

Water and spray doesn't hurt cannabis plants. Prolonged exposure to moisture can cause pm or bud rot. Spraying them off once a day won't hurt a bit.

That's what I said lol. And yes I know bud rot lol, it's not if, here, it's when, if weather stays dry and warm mostly were good.

whitebb2727 · Sep 20, 2017

Budley Doright said:
That's what I said lol. And yes I know bud rot lol, it's not if, here, it's when, if weather stays dry and warm mostly were good.

I know. My bad. I was agreeing with you and just adding a little more to it.

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