STATE has been given 1.2 million to close all dispensaries !

TheMan13

TheMan13

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MichiganMedGrower said:
Now you are an offensive ass hole.

Because we can read and don't want to go to jail we are nazi sympathizers?

The growers you insult actually help patient access.
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You keep virtuously making statements about your reading and comprehension skills, yet have yet to prove/support a thing you've posted.

Riddle me this literary genius, where is the very literal genetic basis for medical marijuana to even exist under our law addressed as you choose to read MMMA? Immaculate conception :confused:
 
MichiganMedGrower

MichiganMedGrower

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TheMan13 said:
You keep virtuously making statements about your reading and comprehension skills, yet have yet to prove/support a thing you've posted.

Riddle me this literary genius, where is the very literal genetic basis for medical marijuana to even exist under our law addressed as you choose to read MMMA? Immaculate conception :confused:
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Good luck with getting people to follow you. Once you called me a nazi most intelligent people were done with you.

And my mother with a maiden name that is descended from the Kohan tribe would be very offended with you.

Why are you insulting my Mom?
 
Norby Grown

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They, they, they. Divide and conquer. They stopped getting support from cg's and their patients after one dispensary made a stupid comment. All was lost at that point. Even though it was the model that would've worked the best. All over stupid rumors that testing for disps meant testing between patient and cg and that disps wanted it all and every disp wanted cg's out even though that's where tehy were getting all their product from. Seems like some cg's wanted it all to themselves and if they didn't start the divide they certainly fell right into it. All because some cg's couldn't grow good shit and wanted to use the law to assure their 5 patients. See you can look at this from a # of different angles. What's true I just have to guess since I've only been here for 4 years and all this divide happened before I got here.
chemphlegm said:
access? new dispensaries will do this right? old disp? they sinking now, they messed up, had a chance for years to do this right but nope.....
why support a sinking ship in MI? I dont follow rules in other states sry. where is the measure to change this in one step at the federal level? BAM=problem solved
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MichiganMedGrower

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TheMan13 said:
Do you mean "Why am I embarrassing my mom?" Did she teach her snowflake if he says/thinks it it must true? Then maybe she should be embarrassed/insulted, especially if she taught you to "read" ...
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Are you sure you want to represent people?

Doesn't look like it suits you. No one likes you in life do they?

And you can't learn to grow and no one wants to show you.

Lot easier to pretend you are a grower than a lawyer. Guess you fail at both.

Anyone in Michigan that can't find pot isn't looking. And the dispensaries all became illegal when they decided to have their own and passed the new plan this year.

I don't like it either but there will be a dispensary everywhere in a minute. Just not owned by your friends. Owned by theirs.

You put up the nazi meme. Your abilities and stability is in question. You just insulted the very person you are trying to win over even more.

What kind of asshole posts insinuations of Nazi behavior in an open forum.


Who he fuck wants you speaking for them. You are terrible at this.

Please stop before you cost us more rights.
 
chemphlegm

chemphlegm

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2/3 is sensationalism considering that number is drastically reduced when patients growing their own, buying from friends or from their fellow patients. I know many more buying from another patient than I do visiting a dispensary.

so hopefully dispensary patients prepared for this eventual/inevitable closure. this isnt new, Detroit has closed hundreds of them in the past 8 years.
 
chemphlegm

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MichiganMedGrower said:
Anyone in Michigan that can't find pot isn't looking. And the dispensaries all became illegal when they decided to have their own and passed the new plan this year.

I don't like it either but there will be a dispensary everywhere in a minute. Just not owned by your friends. Owned by theirs.


Please stop before you cost us more rights.
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chemphlegm

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“Under the best circumstances, cannabis takes about 4 – 6 months to grow from seed to harvest,” said Jamie Lowell of the Michigan Marijuana Law Experts. Those first quarter of 2018 license awardees will not be able to produce cannabis for the new industry until mid- to late-summer of 2018. “Even those who grow for their own patient needs often use dispensaries to maintain their medical treatments in those times between harvests.”

Caregivers use dispensaries to obtain the starter plants needed to begin a new crop for their patients and to obtain cannabis for their patients between harvests; so do patients who have already assigned a caregiver but whose medical needs are more immediate than their caregiver can provide for. All 262,000 patients cultivating on their own or with a caregiver would potentially be impacted if distribution centers as they currently exist were suddenly eliminated, Lowell clarified."

I grow for myself and my patients. I never met a patient who was willing to wait for their cg to harvest for their supply.
they want to be supplied the day their card comes if not sooner, or they move on to another cg who will comply. those days are long gone since 2009, pimping patients for plant numbers, make them wait, never supply them, broken promises all for what you ask.... to sell to the disp, so that those very same disgruntled patients could go pay four times their cost now.....what a crock ...I heard all about it.

I have never used a dispensary. I never sold to one, never bought from one, never took in a clone either. Smart growers that strive to be legal know how to perpetually harvest for their uninterrupted supply for themselves and their patients.

Only thing I see happening when they finally enforce the Act and define legal dispensaries is less black market weed for the youngins on the street.

Is it so unfounded to think that the black market sellers would buy black market weed as well as sell to the black market?
 
chemphlegm

chemphlegm

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MichiganMedGrower said:
Please don't applaud me for an edited post my friend.

The main point of the post is that he is an asshole that is not qualified to argue for our medicine.
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several points in your post, sooooo...

sry. I fully agreed with the part I quoted. I dont know the other poster well enough yet to agree with the rest, beginning to though;-)
 
MichiganMedGrower

MichiganMedGrower

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chemphlegm said:
several points in your post, sooooo...

sry. I fully agreed with the part I quoted. I dont know the other poster well enough yet to agree with the rest, beginning to though;-)
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Just aggrivated me to see my post from a moment ago censored. He is really pissing me off. But no more than any of these new "legal weed" people.

Dont they know that they would never have meds at all if we had not overcome the law all these years and kept the weed flowing in our country?

I went through the care giver rip off program too. I only want my rights to grow at home and I believe we should be allowed to provide overages to patients who need it.

We need an actual "transfer center" as they like to call their rip off stores. So that we can have our own place to bring and provide meds.

I would be happy to adjust donation prices to help pay for such a service.

There would need to be a lab involved to keep low quality and harmful chemicals out and certify cannabanoids.

But there will only be liquor store regulated like pot stores in this country. It is always going to be a controlled substance. And the politicians and big business will always be the main controllers.

And the current system is not working for them. They want their slice of the pie.
 
chemphlegm

chemphlegm

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always been two things going on, growing for love and growing for money.
the only people I hear butthurt from- non stop are those that wish to make more money.
you'd think it would come from the victims

Its always the victims yelling the loudest. its been clear who feels victimized by our Act disallowing dispensaries ...with every proposal and its never been the patients wanting supply, always those wishing to sell more of it is all. meh fuck em

"don't sell dope then, get a real job"
 
MichiganMedGrower

MichiganMedGrower

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chemphlegm said:
always been two things going on, growing for love and growing for money.
the only people I hear butthurt from- non stop are those that wish to make more money.
you'd think it would come from the victims

Its always the victims yelling the loudest. its been clear who feels victimized by our Act disallowing dispensaries ...with every proposal and its never been the patients wanting supply, always those wishing to sell more of it is all. meh fuck em

"don't sell dope then, get a real job"
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I have managed to make it work and am happy to have a house in the forest and something worthwhile to do after losing my career and original assets and goals from illness.

It sucks following their plant count and regs but it is way better than nothing.

The only caregivers I know who failed looked at it for money like you say. And they started big and caused patients problems.

And every dispensary out here I tried had no real medicine to offer. But plenty of expensive shitty barn smelling pot.

I only Grow because of the dispensaries and local caregivers I used. I had other plans originally but I need good meds and so does Mrs. MMG. And others in our group of family and friends.
 
TheMan13

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You tools keep insinuating that I somehow make money slinging pot and/or representing the caregiver center market. How about putting up or shutting the fuck up?

By your math and opposing argument, should we all infer that you are employed by law enforcement and/or the Drug War :confused:

Good luck with your arguments at noon ...
 
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MichiganMedGrower

MichiganMedGrower

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TheMan13 said:
You tools keep insinuating that I somehow make money slinging pot and/or representing the caregiver center market. How about putting up or shutting the fuck up?

By your math and opposing argument, should we all infer that you are employed by law enforcement and/or the Drug War :confused:

Good luck with your arguments at noon ...
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Safer going underground than following someone like you.

Look how you only have insults left. We know our market and laws. We have experience. We provide quality meds.

Who the fuck are you?
 
chemphlegm

chemphlegm

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TheMan13 said:
You tools keep insinuating that I somehow make money slinging pot and/or representing the caregiver center market. How about putting up or shutting the fuck up?

By your math and opposing argument, should we all infer that you are employed by law enforcement and/or the Drug War :confused:

Good luck with your arguments at noon ...
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tools? thats just mean man, try the decaf mate.

it isnt about you dude,
its about the others, people that speak/post/act like you when this subject comes up. you can find hundreds
of instances where this same subject ends in the same way, with failed measures, no dispensary support except from potential sellers. Its always those who want to sell more pot that think our Act allows for it. Everyone else seems to love the Act they voted for, go figure. I get it, I really do, as promising as this sounded, its potential to sell unlimited pot tax free to as many people as someone wants, but this isnt it. 1 cg to five patients, figure it out or stay underground. using the card as a shield to break rules, while expected, hurt our patient program in ways that wont be understood for years to come. It broke no ground, did not provide more opportunity, did not help patients, but rather threw them under the bus by turning over private protected records while lying to patients about legality and Act rules. turns out....they were always wrong about the Act aye=1cg5 patients, thats always been it my man.

start a measure supporting more patients, more possession, more plant counts for our existing system, maybe you got my attention, as long as it doesnt include bashing and not following what we currently have to make your point and as long as you dont call names when you run out of constructive things to add.



never met any rule following patient hating our Act, never met any rule following cg hating our Act. Never met either that was trying to introduce dispensary bills, unless they were trying to make more money. Those that grow for love seem to be universally happy and without the need to change a thing. that doesnt mean we support any jail time for any plant related offense, local law enforcement mishandling, attorney follies, or judges having marijuana in their targets.

It means we voted for rules, we got exactly what we voted for. changes now include oils !!! tinctures!!! salves!!!! this is a beautiful thing to law abiding users and growers. sorry it isnt working out for you and your group. You really should be asking how others make it such a beautiful thing and are never without supply. I'd gladly teach you some pointers if needed. Calling names wont teach you to grow marijuana nor will it garnish any support. matter of fact this is deja vu ! maybe if supporters of said measures spoke with respect, dignity and acted as examples more people might be open to the thought of a cash cow green rush opportunity. maybe if they didnt dodge around rules to make points too?
For now though, we got our Act, it isnt for everyone I know. Marijuana is not for everyone, no matter how hard someone wants to like it maybe the stuff just wont work out for them. I've met some patients over the yrs that fit that bill to a T.

if the shoe fits...wear it
 
MichiganMedGrower

MichiganMedGrower

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chemphlegm said:
tools? thats just mean man, try the decaf mate.

it isnt about you dude,
its about the others, people that speak/post/act like you when this subject comes up. you can find hundreds
of instances where this same subject ends in the same way, with failed measures, no dispensary support except from potential sellers. Its always those who want to sell more pot that think our Act allows for it. Everyone else seems to love the Act they voted for, go figure. I get it, I really do, as promising as this sounded, its potential to sell unlimited pot tax free to as many people as someone wants, but this isnt it. 1 cg to five patients, figure it out or stay underground. using the card as a shield to break rules, while expected, hurt our patient program in ways that wont be understood for years to come. It broke no ground, did not provide more opportunity, did not help patients, but rather threw them under the bus by turning over private protected records while lying to patients about legality and Act rules. turns out....they were always wrong about the Act aye=1cg5 patients, thats always been it my man.

start a measure supporting more patients, more possession, more plant counts for our existing system, maybe you got my attention, as long as it doesnt include bashing and not following what we currently have to make your point and as long as you dont call names when you run out of constructive things to add.



never met any rule following patient hating our Act, never met any rule following cg hating our Act. Never met either that was trying to introduce dispensary bills, unless they were trying to make more money. Those that grow for love seem to be universally happy and without the need to change a thing. that doesnt mean we support any jail time for any plant related offense, local law enforcement mishandling, attorney follies, or judges having marijuana in their targets.

It means we voted for rules, we got exactly what we voted for. changes now include oils !!! tinctures!!! salves!!!! this is a beautiful thing to law abiding users and growers. sorry it isnt working out for you and your group. You really should be asking how others make it such a beautiful thing and are never without supply. I'd gladly teach you some pointers if needed. Calling names wont teach you to grow marijuana nor will it garnish any support. matter of fact this is deja vu ! maybe if supporters of said measures spoke with respect, dignity and acted as examples more people might be open to the thought of a cash cow green rush opportunity. maybe if they didnt dodge around rules to make points too?
For now though, we got our Act, it isnt for everyone I know. Marijuana is not for everyone, no matter how hard someone wants to like it maybe the stuff just wont work out for them. I've met some patients over the yrs that fit that bill to a T.

if the shoe fits...wear it
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Really nice post!

I admit. The nazi thing really pissed me off. And I agree with the rest of what you say whole heartedly.

And I would still provide the man with the meds he needs. As soon as he concedes he is not "the man" but just a man.
 
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