Sticky Situation!!!!!!

Cubieman said:

Maybe this info can help you?


"Towards the middle to end of flowering stages, the plant will show a nitrogen deficiency almost always. This process is completely normal and just let the plant naturally yellow out as it uses it's stored nutrients. This actually helps you by getting ready for final flushing and then harvesting. At this point DO NOT not use nitrogen to fix the problem. The yellowing leaves will then eventually drop off after the plant is done with them."

Here is the link from where I copied the above info from:
http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=11688

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that is so far from the truth its not even funny...going by the thread of a random person does not make information true...i saw a guy that said in a thread on here that pissing and jacking off on your plant was a good idea.dont trust everything you see in a forum.and anyone that uses the word flushing and not leeching is pulling your prick.flushing before harvest is far from what a plant wants...why deprive the plant of food during the time it packs on its most weight during flower

ste147 said:

i dont use any canna atall, but i know someone hu had a N problem and used this from the flower stage onwards, and seems to have sorted his problem out!!! Ive just looked at the sensi grow A and there doesnt appear to be much nitrogen in it??????

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There's plenty for your needs.

djruiner said:

"...going by the thread of a random person does not make information true.."

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I agree with you, and not saying what I pulled from the icmag site and posted was true or not, but it did come from a very well known link that is posted all the time on RIU.

http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=11688

Also, my plant is now 8 weeks into flower and shows what I believe to be a N deficiency. I was going to fert with something high in N but that info said otherwise. Being a new grower is so hard. You read so many different ways to approach the same issue. Peace.

Cubieman said:

I agree with you, and not saying what I pulled from the icmag site and posted was true or not, but it did come from a very well known link that is posted all the time on RIU.

http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=11688

Also, my plant is now 8 weeks into flower and shows what I believe to be a N deficiency. I was going to fert with something high in N but that info said otherwise. Being a new grower is so hard. You read so many different ways to approach the same issue. Peace.

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no need to use a high n fert...just one with a good balance...cant go wrong with a 20-20-20..or 2-2-2

so does anyone know the best thing to use thats an A.N product???? and if its sensi grow, how much do i use? and do i replace it with anything???? surely u wud think that sensi bloom is better which im using, as it has more nitrogen in it. so therefore adding grow doesnt make sense???????

ste147 said:

so does anyone know the best thing to use thats an A.N product???? and if its sensi grow, how much do i use? and do i replace it with anything???? surely u wud think that sensi bloom is better which im using, as it has more nitrogen in it. so therefore adding grow doesnt make sense???????

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here is a tip...get someone else to grow your plants...numerous people have given you a ton of info and ideas...but you seem to not understand.your looking for someone to tell you exactly how to fert your plants...time to start over and learn from scratch.just being honest and real here

djruiner said:

here is a tip...get someone else to grow your plants...numerous people have given you a ton of info and ideas...but you seem to not understand.your looking for someone to tell you exactly how to fert your plants...time to start over and learn from scratch.just being honest and real here

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dont speak to me like that, u might be a good grower but do me a favour an take ur head out of ur arse, im merely stating a fact that sensi BLOOM has more nitrogen in than sensi GROW!!!!!! The reason i am asking why use grow than bloom as a nitrogen supplement is that it might have something else in it that im not aware of. Im not one of these newbie idiots that spend all day asking a ton of questions that have already been answered millions of times before, so please dont treat me like a dikhead.

ste147 said:

dont speak to me like that, u might be a good grower but do me a favour an take ur head out of ur arse, im merely stating a fact that sensi BLOOM has more nitrogen in than sensi GROW!!!!!! The reason i am asking why use grow than bloom as a nitrogen supplement is that it might have something else in it that im not aware of. Im not one of these newbie idiots that spend all day asking a ton of questions that have already been answered millions of times before, so please dont treat me like a dikhead.

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you sure about that chief?...not only are you asking the same question over and over again...but your asking the same question most of the newbs here ask.and speak to you like what?honestly?insightfully?but good work on the name calling..further proving your intelligence.

name calling? think you need to brush up on your english pal and quote me where i have called you any names atall ! Oh an you'll have to show me the previous post started by someone else entitled ''why should i use sensi grow as aposed to sensi bloom for nitrogen deficiency''..... coz i cant seem to find it anywer.

ste147 said:

name calling? think you need to brush up on your english pal and quote me where i have called you any names atall ! Oh an you'll have to show me the previous post started by someone else entitled ''why should i use sensi grow as aposed to sensi bloom for nitrogen deficiency''..... coz i cant seem to find it anywer.

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refer back to posts #12 and 16 in particular. if you still don't get it then djruiner's advice is the best you're going to get. get off AN's nuts and start looking at nutes as nutes instead of brand names.

yeah i understand that. no need for the attitude thou is ther.

Total Head said:

refer back to posts #12 and 16 in particular. if you still don't get it then djruiner's advice is the best you're going to get. get off AN's nuts and start looking at nutes as nutes instead of brand names.

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I disagree AN is a awsome line of nutes!!

djruiner said:

you sure about that chief?...not only are you asking the same question over and over again...but your asking the same question most of the newbs here ask.and speak to you like what?honestly?insightfully?but good work on the name calling..further proving your intelligence.

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Wow, man! I know this post is old but you're a dick. I'm not a newb and this is a question I had. I disagree he was asking the same question repeatedly. Try looking into the issue before spouting off insults. Sensi bloom has more nitrogen than sensi grow. It's quite strange. Seems like a perfectly appropriate question if you ask me because it makes no sense. Grow formulas typically have more N than bloom but not with Sensi Grow. The bloom has more. His question was what he should do. A possible answer could be to add more sensi b or whichever part is higher in N.

Runbho said:

Wow, man! I know this post is old but you're a dick. I'm not a newb and this is a question I had. I disagree he was asking the same question repeatedly. Try looking into the issue before spouting off insults. Sensi bloom has more nitrogen than sensi grow. It's quite strange. Seems like a perfectly appropriate question if you ask me because it makes no sense. Grow formulas typically have more N than bloom but not with Sensi Grow. The bloom has more. His question was what he should do. A possible answer could be to add more sensi b or whichever part is higher in N.

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You have a grasp on the solution. You get it...
I do have to say that AN still sucks! (In all the stuff they make - I only like 2 products) It's their marketing everything in this and that bottle. Now you have to buy all this crap to grow like a pro? That's a lie! I call kill their results with 3 bottles of other things from 3 different makers and for a shit ton less money.....Hell man, Botanicare PRO and KIND lines will slap AN.

Paying stupid amounts for watered down nutrients, is stupid....

BTW - the "man" your complaining too....Hasn't been here in about 5 years, 4 months......He'll never see your post....

Dr. Who said:

You have a grasp on the solution. You get it...
I do have to say that AN still sucks! (In all the stuff they make - I only like 2 products) It's their marketing everything in this and that bottle. Now you have to buy all this crap to grow like a pro? That's a lie! I call kill their results with 3 bottles of other things from 3 different makers and for a shit ton less money.....Hell man, Botanicare PRO and KIND lines will slap AN.

Paying stupid amounts for watered down nutrients, is stupid....

BTW - the "man" your complaining too....Hasn't been here in about 5 years, 4 months......He'll never see your post....

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Thanks bud. i still think AN is good but mostly for hydro. I run a 55 gallon res and change my solution once a week. No need to ph or check ppm. The ec does gradually drop over the week but the ph always stays between 5.8 and 6.2 max. I love AN for hydro but I've never tried anything else. This is my 2nd hydro run and my 1st was a single dwc so no comparison. What nutes do you recommend for soil? Also, can you post a pic of the results you've gotten from your preferred nutes. I order AN online so it's actually cheaper than Technaflora at my local shop, but I would never pay retail. I saw the retail prices for the 1st time a few weeks ago and now understand why people hate AN. The prices are insulting. lol seriously wtf. $105 for a liter of voodoo juice. Haha. No thank you!
The more I grow, the more I believe that yield and quality is less about which nutes you use and more about your environment. Temps, humidity, and co2 levels are far more important. Do nute brands even make a difference?

Runbho said:

Thanks bud. i still think AN is good but mostly for hydro. I run a 55 gallon res and change my solution once a week. No need to ph or check ppm. The ec does gradually drop over the week but the ph always stays between 5.8 and 6.2 max. I love AN for hydro but I've never tried anything else. This is my 2nd hydro run and my 1st was a single dwc so no comparison. What nutes do you recommend for soil? Also, can you post a pic of the results you've gotten from your preferred nutes. I order AN online so it's actually cheaper than Technaflora at my local shop, but I would never pay retail. I saw the retail prices for the 1st time a few weeks ago and now understand why people hate AN. The prices are insulting. lol seriously wtf. $105 for a liter of voodoo juice. Haha. No thank you!
The more I grow, the more I believe that yield and quality is less about which nutes you use and more about your environment. Temps, humidity, and co2 levels are far more important. Do nute brands even make a difference?

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Brands make a difference. Some yes, some no....Quality sourcing, usable ratio's and proper micro availability are the keys.

I have gone back to organic years ago.....Now there are some newer things on the market and some things at ratio's I like....So, I'm running a limited amount of synthetic plants for experimenting with some synthetic lines and combinations of......Getting some bang up results so far....

Jack's Classic citrus - start to finish 1/4 tsp per gallon. In bloom add Potassium Sulfate at the same 1/4 tsp per gallon.
Dyna Gro Foliage Pro - a mix of a Mg sulfate and a K sulfate liquid nute you can make in bloom.
Botanicare KIND line is real nice. Extra Ca and Mg sulfate is in it. 3 part line that you can use at any amount of each to mix what you need for the strain NPK ratio wise.

I am doing a 3 part of Hesi bloom soil, I have a DM Gold line component at 1-1-4 and a 0-9-19 late bloom blaster. I also sup a kelp extract and use the homemade Mg and K sulfate mixed. On some strains I might use a PK booster at 0-5-6 in mid bloom a few times.

I liked Hesi as a line but switched the roots for a kelp extract and dropped the super vit for the same reason (cheaper to use the kelp extract and it has everything in it the expensive Hesi products did....

For the most part, other then the botanicare - Jack's powder or the single Foliage pro.....I use products I like for the NPK ratio's and deliver it to the plants as I "see" they need it.....It's simply a habit after the long, long time I've been growing....

For my real favorite of Organic. I build 4 soils. I can mix and match those to adapt them to any strain I run...

As for pics. I can supply some done with water only soils and some late bloom supplementing as needed. Not been taking pics of the synthetic testing...

ste147 said:

i have an interesting question...

ive seen some people complaining that 4 weeks onwards of flowering that theyre leaves are starting to go yellow and start dying and dropping off as the weeks progress, and although ive seen people say its normal because ur plants arnt getting the nitrogen thats in your nutrients, but it doesnt matter anyway because the plants dont use the fan leaves anymore and that they put all theyre effort into the buds....

My question is.... my plants are starting the go the same way, and i use a quite a few advanced nutrient products!!!!
do i just leave it, or shall i use a nitrogen supplement to stop this happening??????

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I feed to the end,last feed cannazyme as I recycle my soil n they stay green to the bitter end all ur doing is depriving the plant of food ao it goes kinda catabolic. I feed veg nutes well into week 3 then half n half them Bloom with canna mono N if needed but I always overfeed N n Calmag before I flip which helps alot during puberty

djruiner said:

that is so far from the truth its not even funny...going by the thread of a random person does not make information true...i saw a guy that said in a thread on here that pissing and jacking off on your plant was a good idea.dont trust everything you see in a forum.and anyone that uses the word flushing and not leeching is pulling your prick.flushing before harvest is far from what a plant wants...why deprive the plant of food during the time it packs on its most weight during flower

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Damn fucking straight not to mention defoliation cunts

Stretch started n flowers forming but im still twisting n bending to keep me canopy slick