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    GreenGab

    GreenGab Member

    Man, i guess im a little late here because it seems like Chris might be gone. I think he said he can root clones in his superC withouy using any rooting hormones which sounds pretty amazing to me.

    Ive used soil switched to hydro and was going to try subs SS recipe but hes a bit of prick to some people as ive seen in some threads. Obviously hes not an english major nor a business major more like a major dufus! He got mad at someone for asking if the SS was to be covered or not, afterwards he replied that he never stated if it was suppose to be covered or not. Turns out it is suppose to be covered but he figured it was" common sence" yea prick but not to a newb.

    Im from so cal so i may not be able to get my hands on this superC (ima call it super C for the man who posted the shit) sounds like some legendary stuff. I noticed in Chriss pix theres not even tip burn. I would be more than willing to pay Chris himself rather then going thru a hydro shop. Im tired of buying a bunch of bottles of crap. Plus i just read an ad in nuggetry magazine, feb or march 2013 labeled "are you in" or something like that talking about how companies want to take our money (us being MMJ community) but dont really have our back. There was a wax/dab/sap (what ever label you want to give it) competiton in Los Angeles and cloud vape pens were invited at first they accepted but once they realized it was concentrate based they withdrew. Saying that they are an incense oil burning company and didnt want to be associated with marijuana. Ive lived in all 3 west coast states and havent met one person that uses vape pens for incense oil didnt even know you could smoke incense oil!

    Another part of the article is about a hydro convention and how one of the nuggetry writers wasnt allowed in because of a marijuana t-shirt. The host of the event said they dont support that and its not allowed which is totally fine. Anyway the dude changed his shirt and went right back in. And on his was out he passed the event host and thanked him to which the host replied " im making money hand over fist" and "im pimping your marijuana fools". I dont want anything to do with these major hydro companies id much rather give my money to a mom and pops or chris if i can ever find that dude. If his product is what he seys, i can have a whole lot of people buying his stuff directly from him, no need for all the metal stamps and all that other crap. Ive been doing this grow stuff for over 10 years and im not even 30.

    If you read this Chris keep up the good f-ing work bro! Dont let anything get in your way because it
    seems like you have some killer stuff! Im not really into the internet so i dont even know how to PM if anyone knows how to get a hold of Chris please let me know! Thanks to all of you guys.

    F- the police and the feds too, they wont have me ina jumpsuit
     
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    jubiare

    jubiare Active Member

    I make my own soiless media plus amendments as follow:

    Base mix:
    1part coco coir
    1part nursery aged bark
    1part grostones for aeration
    1part worm castings
    30ml dolomite limestone x gallon
    30ml granite dust x gallon
    30ml zeolite x gallon
    30ml rock dust
    15ml rock phosphate

    That is the base in which seedlings thrive for at least 3weeks from sprout

    I do have hard water and I find aerate it with little amount of worm castings works better

    I do not pH water of course

    The amended mix is with added:

    Neem meal, flaxseed meal, alfalfa meal, comfrey pellets and occasionally topdress with Guanos for a quick fix

    I do recycle the media, during the last year it is working very well
     
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    Sticky Lungs

    Sticky Lungs Active Member

    GreenGab, I tried PM'ing you but I guess since you're a new member it wouldn't activate your inbox.

    Tell your local grow shop about the Super Coco revolution, or check out the website. No Nutrients Required!
     
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    GreenGab

    GreenGab Member

    I live in so cal and most of the hydro shops in my area are those know it all duchebags type. Which website? Im interested for sure
     
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    Sticky Lungs

    Sticky Lungs Active Member

    Google search, Brotha! I left ya with some key words. Otherwise I'm sure a link would be frowned upon.
     
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    indica4sativa

    indica4sativa Member

    Super coco is amazing. i been involved with organics for a long time. Ive put clones in this media with no burn and insane growth. ive transplanted from rockwool, from rapid rooters, to just making a 45 degree angle, and ive never had any burn or deficiency show up. Im still waiting to flower in this stuff, but chris is a stand up guy who stand behind his product 100 percent. if anyone has any issues or questions let me know. I was making my own soil for quite sometime. and to be honest, anyone can supercharge there soil, but hes done it in such a way all nutrients are available at exactly the time the plant needs them available. Ive used other "magic" soils like this before and i live in california. Super coco is amazing enough for me to stop using my personally made soil to constantly using this stuff. depending on genetics i never dip below 22 percent total profile. i usually end up in the mid to higher percentile and using this super coco i don't see any difference from how i used to make my own, other then its sooooooooooooo much cheaper, especially since the bags are a little cheaper now. Go to amazon and check it out. go to youtube and check it out.
     
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    m4s73r

    m4s73r Well-Known Member

    I'm getting ready to mix my first batch of super soil and was going to use peat moss till i saw this thread. Here is my questions. With my current recipie of soil all i will have to do to reuse it is to let the root balls dry up, break them all down, lightly water, let it sit for a month lightly damp and its ready to reuse. (might have to throw in a cup of additives) Will this work the same with coco over peat moss? For me the whole point of supersoil/organics is to grow organic and to be able to reuse your soil. Have no intions of going back to something that i have to constantly buy bags of dirt. thanks for the help
     
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    indica4sativa

    indica4sativa Member

    If your going to re use soil or coco make sure you use alot of enzymes throughout your grow, and after you let it sit for a few months recycling, you should add at least 3/4 of the amendments you would use to to make your soil. Everything you can imagine gets depleted out of your soil or coco when you go through a cycle. I been using the super coco for a while, and before that i was making my own soil. You should really look at this super coco product because from seed your plants are super freakin healthy, and vigorious alll the way through. And if you wanted, you can recycle the super coco by adding the amendments after the cycle. Ive made alllllllllll types of supercharged soil, with alllll different types of amendments. If your a serious grower, i would contact chris and he might even give you a sample bag to try. This stuff really is amazing
     
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    stak

    stak Well-Known Member

    He might offer a free bag but don't expect him to ever send it out to you. I was trying to get him to tell me where I could buy the stuff and he offers to send a sample bag. He sent me a few emails saying he was sending it and he never did.

    Don't get me wrong, I like the product, I've made three seperate purchases from Amazon and have like ten bags of it in the shed, I'm just saying don't hold your breath on a sample bag ever being sent out.
     
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    Silky Shagsalot

    Silky Shagsalot Well-Known Member

    anytime someone comes up with something that is new/different, i think it's a good thing. maybe not for everyone, but some, maybe a lot of people will benefit in some way. personally, i have no interest in super soil, or super coco. i read the whole first page of this thread, and didn't find the details i was looking for, so gave up. i was wondering what all the additives did to change the way plain coco and perlite grows went. does the ph remain a hydro one, or is it now 6.5 like soil? is the explosive growth the same? the commentary about bottled nutes/steroids (lol) was kind of funny to me. i don't believe plants can tell the difference in nutrients, and their origins. nutrients that the plant accesses for growth are all the same to the plant. it's hungry, it eats, it drinks, it grows. pretty much all there is to it. there is no need to get fancy, pot is a weed and is pretty tough/resilient. i get great results using coco and perlite, using coco specific nutes/supps. depending on strain, i can easily get 3-5 ounces from a single plant, depending on how much time/effort i wanna put into it. since i'm fairly lazy, i usually get 3 ounces from a plant in coco. it takes a lot to bring a new product to the market, good luck!!!
     
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    indica4sativa

    indica4sativa Member

    The ph shouldnt matter in super soil or super coco. as long as you use r.o water with some camg. thats the whole point of super soil and super coco. the plants pulls from the soil or coco whatever nutrients it needs for that day, week, cycle. and as far as different amendments, you may not think the plants can tell the difference between Peruvian bat guano and Jamaican bat guano (just an example) but all of these strains have landrace genetics somewhere in their lineage. Certain parts of the world use certain materials that are indigenous to their land and have been for centuries. So certain products may have the same n-p-k rating, be the same type of guano like bloom or grow, and be from to totally different parts of the world, which can have a resounding effect on genetics of certain strains. This obviously isnt going to be the case for everything, since a lot of shit nowadays has been crossed, backcrossed, ibl'd, then crossed again all to hell. More of your pure genetics, or pure hybrid's are going to see an effect from using fertilizers and amendments that are indigenous to their native origins. As far as chris sending free bags, sometimes you just have to be polite and remind him. Hes a busy person, running a company. Im sure he doesnt mean to forget, so a polite reminder has always worked for me. As far as any soil or coco goes, as long as you have abundance of microbial life, they will eat whatever is in the soil. Feed your soil, your soil will feed your plants.
     
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    Silky Shagsalot

    Silky Shagsalot Well-Known Member

    come on man! i can tell by your post, you know more than the average grower, (love landraces, pure hard to find) and you know ph is "key," to issue free growing. weather you adjust for it, or amend to deal with it, ph is very important. i wonder if the amendments you put in super coco, effects the needed ph to grow in it, from hydro to dirt. i'll admit, i only read the first page, but you'd think it would have come up, it's pretty important imo.... i used to be a member of a forum (vibes collective) that was mainly dedicated to landraces. i was never able to get my hands on any of the beans, but what beautiful strains....
     
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    indica4sativa

    indica4sativa Member

    The ph shouldnt matter in super soil or super coco. as long as you use r.o water with some camg. thats the whole point of super soil and super coco. the plants pulls from the soil or coco whatever nutrients it needs for that day, week, cycle. and as far as different amendments, you may not think the plants can tell the difference between Peruvian bat guano and Jamaican bat guano (just an example) but all of these strains have landrace genetics somewhere in their lineage. Certain parts of the world use certain materials that are indigenous to their land and have been for centuries. So certain products may have the same n-p-k rating, be the same type of guano like bloom or grow, and be from to totally different parts of the world, which can have a resounding effect on genetics of certain strains. This obviously isnt going to be the case for everything, since a lot of shit nowadays has been crossed, backcrossed, ibl'd, then crossed again all to hell. More of your pure genetics, or pure hybrid's are going to see an effect from using fertilizers and amendments that are indigenous to their native origins. As far as chris sending free bags, sometimes you just have to be polite and remind him. Hes a busy person, running a company. Im sure he doesnt mean to forget, so a polite reminder has always worked for me. As far as any soil or coco goes, as long as you have abundance of microbial life, they will eat whatever is in the soil. Feed your soil, your soil will feed your plants.
     
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    indica4sativa

    indica4sativa Member

    sorry dont know why that came up again. ok i understand what you mean now
     
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    Silky Shagsalot

    Silky Shagsalot Well-Known Member

    lol, ya, i thought i was high or something, lol...
     
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    indica4sativa

    indica4sativa Member

    as far as ph what i had meant is as long as you have the proper amount of lime.. oyster shell.. in your dirt or coco, your plant SHOULD be able to adjust to the ph that's needed without you having to physically adjust anything ( measuring wise ). granted im not talking about using any kind of liquid fertilizers either. the only stuff i use are additives. CaMg, organic Vitamin B, microbes, enzymes, sugars 4 weeks in flowering and humic acid every 4th watering. if you have hydro clone or what not.. with the the roots all dangling, you can still transplant them into the super coco. now keep in mind this super coco allows everything to be available to the plant without it being burned. which is a hard thing to do, especially when you see the results u know. but the pulverised lime they put in the super coco must be buffer enough. when i made my own soil i used pellitized lime, pulverized lime, and crushed oyster shell and oyster shell flour lol sooo, i didnt use abundant amounts of everything, just enough of everything. but he jjust puts pulverized lime in his mix and it definitely works well. cause i put clones, seeds, and well rooted transplants in his mix and the healthy growth is insane. but the long and short of this is, you shouldnt have PH issues, nor should you have to PH your water before using it for super soil or super coco. granted, i always use r.o water bc the water here is horrible, since r.o water is always the same i have no issues since i only use the additives. i dont know if they change my ph, if they do, its never once had a negative effect on my plants. does any of that help?
     
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    indica4sativa

    indica4sativa Member

    Finding legitimate landraces are hard to find but i would look at shantibaba and sagmartha for landraces. theres a couple other websites i know of but not off hand. There hard to grow because of the general longer flowering time. i like finding legitimate hybrids that have a parent or grandparent landrace/heirloom. and in reality when i say landrace, i really mean heirloom. because heirloom means those strains indigenous to their regions have been worked and re worked for generations, which usually means much better genetics. rather then just going and finding a random "landrace" strain growing in the wild (i.e. random african country). it will probably be malnourished and so forth. if its not, and it is a beast all on its own, then you have the holy grail of genetics lol but heirloom strains arent sought after as much anymore due to longer flowering times, or smaller yields, or bad taste, you dont find too many 100% heirloom/landrace that get a 10/10 on every aspect of development which is why we make hybrids lol.
     
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    Silky Shagsalot

    Silky Shagsalot Well-Known Member

    ya i hear you. some of the members of the forum that is now gone, actually went on landrace hunting trips all over the world. kinda blew my mind. these guys with all this dough and time, hunting down beans/cuts for a collective, amazing...
     
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    Silky Shagsalot

    Silky Shagsalot Well-Known Member

    i'd like to give it a try, but it seems a bit costly. i'd like to try it out, if it was at my local grocers...
     
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    m4s73r

    m4s73r Well-Known Member

    Actually that all helps alot. I can get 3-4 bags of super coco and use it up and save the used. while thats happening i can gather all of my amendments to recondition after the first round.
     

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