Super Male theory.

bf80255 · Jul 23, 2015

black jesus said:
my sour 60. so i was asked to post my pics. this plant will be a month old on the 26...i dont know what was going on with but was in my grow room with the rest then moved to a small grow box. then it started growing a lil bit. i saw balls last week i believe so i place it outside. 2 days ago i went to check on it now it has white hairs....i grew out 3 of these a few months ago. in the dirt i saw a spent pollen sac but was not able to find out where it came from...the harvested buds did have very in-mature seeds that didnt need to be picked out....im questioning the source of my seeds now...but would this be a super male...started male now has female parts...or was it a herm and the male parts develop faster????

how would the seeds be if i grew them out?

hes a nice size, looks like a "super male" can you leave it outside to pollinate itself or will that be too much hassle for you to maintain?

a super male is a hermi lol just a special one (in theory)

very interesting, a super male from a completely unrelated auto line than the one im working with. Id like to test some seeds from that plant as well to see if the results are similar to my pinkie super males progeny test.

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=112296

^^^^^I remember reading somewhere that this F9 IBL of autos was also prone to throwing "super males"^^^^^^

black jesus · Jul 23, 2015

bf80255 said:
hes a nice size, looks like a "super male" can you leave it outside to pollinate itself or will that be too much hassle for you to maintain?

a super male is a hermi lol just a special one (in theory)

very interesting, a super male from a completely unrelated auto line than the one im working with. Id like to test some seeds from that plant as well to see if the results are similar to my pinkie super males progeny test.

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=112296

^^^^^I remember reading somewhere that this F9 IBL of autos was also prone to throwing "super males"^^^^^^

Yeah it's staying outside. The male hormones allows it to actually grow in low light...if it was a few it wouldn't grow at all. I'll post a pic Ina week to show you my progress....do you think I should use the seeds from this in my next grow... Having my own seed supply would allow me to to do a sog in solo cups lol...or any size that would give results

bf80255 · Jul 24, 2015

black jesus said:
Yeah it's staying outside. The male hormones allows it to actually grow in low light...if it was a few it wouldn't grow at all. I'll post a pic Ina week to show you my progress....do you think I should use the seeds from this in my next grow... Having my own seed supply would allow me to to do a sog in solo cups lol...or any size that would give results

you could give it a shot but most would probably be hermis to some degree

EverythingsHazy · Jul 24, 2015

If @black jesus plant ends up mostly female, with pollen sacs scattered about, I have a feeling it is just a hermie female.

I can see the idea of a "super male", but I would think that would be a male plant, that was mostly male the entire time, with scattered female flowers here and there, in the same way pollen sacs are scattered on a female hermie, just reversed.

Also, much like how a hermie female's pollen is all female, a super male's pollen should be all male, and if it self pollinates, all of the offspring should be male as well.

RM3 · Jul 24, 2015

EverythingsHazy said:
If @black jesus plant ends up mostly female, with pollen sacs scattered about, I have a feeling it is just a hermie female.

I can see the idea of a "super male", but I would think that would be a male plant, that was mostly male the entire time, with scattered female flowers here and there, in the same way pollen sacs are scattered on a female hermie, just reversed.

Also, much like how a hermie female's pollen is all female, a super male's pollen should be all male, and if it self pollinates, all of the offspring should be male as well.

I got 60/40 female to male with the seeds I just popped from the super male

EverythingsHazy · Jul 24, 2015

RM3 said:
I got 60/40 female to male with the seeds I just popped from the super male

You got 60/40 using "super male" pollen to pollinate a female plant?

If so, I'd think that, along with the other traits, would qualify it as a "super male", instead of a female hermie.

black jesus · Jul 25, 2015

Well the the plant showed male first then female. What does that mean?

bf80255 · Jul 28, 2015

UPDATE

On one branch you can see seeds developing nicely and on another you can see fresh pistils and bananas forming simultaneously, this is definitely a 50/50 male/female at this point

bf80255 · Aug 2, 2015

gave him as much time as I could but I had to remove him from the box today to make room for "real" males lol
ill update if I get viable seeds

TubeAndJar · Aug 5, 2015

Really interested to see what you get out of this. That plant looks pretty unique. At least I've never seen anything quite like it. It sucks running out of space.

Joedank · Aug 9, 2015

bf80255 said:
gave him as much time as I could but I had to remove him from the box today to make room for "real" males lol
ill update if I get viable seeds

stoked on this .

bf80255 · Aug 10, 2015

Joedank said:
stoked on this .

Going to check for viable seed today (fingers crossed)

Joedank · Aug 17, 2015

@Mohican here is a thread about the hermi males

bf80255 · Aug 18, 2015

bf80255 said:
Going to check for viable seed today (fingers crossed)

had 4 seeds that were fully formed (the rest were duds) but upon squeeze testing them this morning I soon found they were all non viable :/

oh well, If I find another one Ill get some seed and start this thread back up. sorry guys.

Traxx187 · Aug 28, 2015

bf80255 said:
had 4 seeds that were fully formed (the rest were duds) but upon squeeze testing them this morning I soon found they were all non viable :/

oh well, If I find another one Ill get some seed and start this thread back up. sorry guys.

nice cant wait too see and keep updated! hope you find some

Midwest Weedist · Mar 24, 2016

bf80255 said:
had 4 seeds that were fully formed (the rest were duds) but upon squeeze testing them this morning I soon found they were all non viable :/

oh well, If I find another one Ill get some seed and start this thread back up. sorry guys.

How were the rest of your kumaoni if I may ask? Got a pack sitting in the fridge ready to sort through for breeding with other landraces

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