Wonder if that Punto Rojo is from Charlie at CBG. May talk with Swami by email and see what he suggests. I have his Kahuna bud x Maui seeds. The Guerrero x Panama Red I ran was a bit of a let down. Dead ringer for Colombian Red which I had in '78 and liked but did not love. I recently smoked some Panama Red from Snowhigh that I think is legit. More soaring effect. Wispy buds. I have a truckload of genetics from him now and will report anything great.