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Discussion in 'Seed and Strain Reviews' started by Ace Yonder, Sep 2, 2014.

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    yesum

    yesum Well-Known Member

    Wonder if that Punto Rojo is from Charlie at CBG. May talk with Swami by email and see what he suggests. I have his Kahuna bud x Maui seeds. The Guerrero x Panama Red I ran was a bit of a let down. Dead ringer for Colombian Red which I had in '78 and liked but did not love.

    I recently smoked some Panama Red from Snowhigh that I think is legit. More soaring effect. Wispy buds. I have a truckload of genetics from him now and will report anything great.
     
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    kristoffolese

    kristoffolese Well-Known Member

    Concerning the nl5xnh... I ignore/cull the indica & "hybrid-y" phenos - you want the tall lady, heavy sativa characteristics pheno... if you catch the same pheno goin around in the late 80s-mid 90's, it is the most potent, "dominating" effect I have EVER felt... Teeth grinding, severe paranoia if u have issues with it or anxiety. Just rocket fuel potent... when I had it, I didnt like smoking it all the time. Have to be in the right frame of mind to enjoy it. Hated smoking it and going in public- at least back in the bad old days of prohibition. 2 close runners up - are the REAL, olden-days Road kill skunk, that ACTUALLY smells like skunk & has the most insane flowering smell that will NOT be stopped by carbon filters alone... city growers& dealers love/hated it lol Seriously though... its smell caused its near extinction imho... nobody wanted to grow it for fear, & a higher % of those who DID grow it, got popped & lost the genetics *sigh* :(
    The 3rd, is Chemdawg-D... I have suspicions that she has rks in there... but who can know, right? Another SUUUUPER loud, rank strain. More chemmy, diesely than rks, but does have that wonderfully wretched, rank skunky layer in there :)
    Idk, though... there were a few crazy potent strains back when... just usually had to pheno hunt for em, not the best uniformity.
    The yield on the nl5xnh CAN be huge... like any tall girl, she has to have penetration... that sounded bad lol Serious once again, if you have something like a spectrum king that will blast high PAR down to the friggin floor, you'll pull a gram to a gram and a half per watt.
     
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    kristoffolese

    kristoffolese Well-Known Member

    And to be clear, I intentionally left off strains that I have little to no experience with. Never grown the 88 g13xhp, but I know its bomb. Good rec shop OG Chem isnt too awfully far back... great blasting, intense potency. Tests regularly between 36-39%+ thc-a - just realize that all growers and all cuts are not created equal ;)
     
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    jimihendrix1

    jimihendrix1 Well-Known Member

    Yes I agree that I would be looking for the more Sativa phenos. Swami offers the choice of either Sativa leaning or Indica leaning bred seeds. I got the Sativa pheno seeds. And would pick my plants likewise. That's what there supposed to be, and are advertised as Sativa.


    Also theres more to it than just THC/CBD/THCV ect.

    The various Terpenes also have a huge affect, and combined with the other chemistry, its very sketchy to judge on the main chemicals they test for vs potency, and effect.

    Ive also seen 1 company test a bud at 25%, and another test the same plant material at 15%. There are different ways to determine this value. I don't believe its a consistent test throughout the industry. Some plants may be off the charts vs THC ect, but the Psycho activity, may not be as high as another strain that measures considerably less., and more favorable terpene profile.

    Also while I have no idea, Ive heard the Chemdawg may have originated in 88 G13/HP

    The NL5/Hz cross I had in the 90s is as good as any Dab, Shatter CO2 Oil, Bubble Hash ect that Ive ever smoked. If you made shatter ect out of it, it would almost be unsmokable. It was already so lung buster, that you knew you would cough every hit. Any more wouldn't be good for your lungs. We did make hash out of it, and the high was the same, just was more lung buster, and took less of it. Same killer taste.

    But for me the hassle of making it ect, mucking around with it to smoke it ect, it was just as easy to take however many hits, in a joint/bong ect

    Also heres some more lines Swami will have in about 4-5 weeks. I'm already saving up for some of these.

    He will have some stuff with the Original Road Kill Skunk/Guadalajara, and a 1985 NL#5, among others.

    Blue Orca x the black/nl5haze x Punto Rojo

    The One x Punto Rojo

    TO /Pakistani x Punto Rojo

    Purple Zebra x Punto Rojo

    (Mazar/Guerrero x 91 NL5haze) x Punto Rojo

    Mazar/Guerrero x Punto Rojo

    cherry bomb x 85 Humboldt RKS/Guadalajara
    The One x 85 RKS/Guadlajara
    Nl5 x 85 RKS/Guadalajara
    BO x 85 RKS/Guadalajara

    TO x tribal African (Pweto village congo x Transkei)

    BO/TO x Tribal African

    (Mazar/Guerrero x nl5haze f2 1 2 3 4) x Punto Rojo

    Paki/Choco x Paki/Choco
    TO x paki/choco
    TO/Panama x paki/choco
    paki choco x Punto Rojo

    purple zebra x Punto Rojo
    Nigerian Sunshine x Punto Rojo

    swami k cut Nigerian Sunshine x a1 f2 Nigerian Sunshine
     
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    kristoffolese

    kristoffolese Well-Known Member

    Man, Im not even finished reading the post yet, and I HAD to quickly say - "I LOVE these kinds of detailed, super informative posts!"
     
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    yesum

    yesum Well-Known Member

    So Gas responded, he smokes the blue orca haze and says it is much less edgy than the nl5 x nevils haze. The Punto Rojo is from Charlie at CBG.
     
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    jimihendrix1

    jimihendrix1 Well-Known Member

    I'm gonna load up on these when theyre available. I don't know which 1 I'm more excited about.

    The One x 85 RKS/Guadalajara
    Nl5 x 85 RKS/Guadalajara
    BO x 85 RKS/Guadalajara


    I'm really interested in the NL5 cross, as I remember how good it was, but I'm also really curious about the BO x RKS/Guadalajara
    I just wonder which is most potent/tasty. NL5 vs Kandahar., and then bred with RKS.
     
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    kristoffolese

    kristoffolese Well-Known Member

    I have a good feeling about this :) Havent even HEARD of rks (the real kind) in at least 15 years... probly longer. And yah, I was eyeballing that NL5 cross, too... man... wish I had some acreage to do a 100 bean run & REALLY dig in there! :D But, I shouldnt be greedy, I spose lol Lookin forward to it, I'll tell you that ✌
     
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    yesum

    yesum Well-Known Member

    Well thanks guys. $100 going off to Swami for the Blue Orca Haze. If Swami chooses it over all he has, well I gotta try it. He calls it 3rd eye smoke. woo hoo!
     
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    jimihendrix1

    jimihendrix1 Well-Known Member

    I tried to post a couple photos of BOH in veg, but it wont let me.

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    jimihendrix1

    jimihendrix1 Well-Known Member

    I just ordered 2 packs of the BO X RKS, and another pack of BOH.

    The 85 NL5 x 85 RKS didn't take, so there will be no NL5 x RKS for now, but have high hopes for the BO x RKS.
     
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    jimihendrix1

    jimihendrix1 Well-Known Member


    Did you get your seeds?? Did he give Extras, Freebies ?
     
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    kristoffolese

    kristoffolese Well-Known Member

    Sent off my $ Friday, cant wait! Funds were limited, so had to go with the NL5xNH... maybe I'll get lucky with a free seed or 2, though, who knows?
     
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    yesum

    yesum Well-Known Member

    I am mailing the money tomorrow, did not have his address and took him a long time to respond. I am in no hurry, have lots going on and dozens of strains to run.
     
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    jimihendrix1

    jimihendrix1 Well-Known Member


    You may get extra seeds, and maybe even a free pack.

    Each time Ive ordered I got extra seeds of the type I bought, and also 1 FREE PACK.

    The 1st time I ordered 2 packs of the NL5/Hz and got 9 extra NL5/HZ, and a free pack of 15 of the BOH, and the second time I got bought a pack of the BOH, got free pack of the Cherry Bomb.

    I just ordered another pack of the BOH, and 2 packs of the BO x RKS. I dont know what Ill get this time.
     
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    kristoffolese

    kristoffolese Well-Known Member

    Ohh... SO jealous of your BO X RKS!!! That is absolutely my next choice! Still... I cant complain. I LOVE the teeth grinding, mouth twisting rush of a good NL5 haze...SO hoping I get a keeper. Im wondering if these nl5 hazes grow as crazy as the "olden days" version lol Seriously though, this was a strain that you could flower straight out of seedling & not end up with 5grams/plant. Crazy stretch as I remember! Cant wait...
     
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    kristoffolese

    kristoffolese Well-Known Member

    Whats interesting, is that the Swami crew (mailing address, anyway) ended up being located just north of where I live. In fact, Spokane, WA ( where I live), is the closest "big" (ha) city to them. Small world... hoping to meet them at barter faire this year. BARTER FAIRE!
     
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    jimihendrix1

    jimihendrix1 Well-Known Member

    cool!! I'm about 2500 miles away, unfortunately, in a non friendly state.

    Yep, I'm pretty sure they grow crazy, just like the old days. I think Swami says you can flower them as soon as you know the sex
     
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    kristoffolese

    kristoffolese Well-Known Member

    Just got our beans... & I am dumb struck, speechless with joyful shock. I am a part of a small group of "old school" legal mmj growers. We have been hunting for years, for OLD school strains that havent had their goodness bred out & been homoginized down to "C" to "B" quality. Wouldve been happy - THRILLED- just to get a single pack. We sent our $ for a pack of the NL5 haze, and tad bit more, hoping for a seed or 2 of a blue orca or rks cross. In return, was sent over 30 nl5 haze seeds and een MORE of the Blue Orca X RKS/Guadalajara!!! Didnt know whether to laugh or cry... so we did both lol ;) This is a HUGE deal to us, as IMO, if you wanna do things right, you need as large a sample size of ladies (&gentleman lol) as possible if youre pheno hunting. Sooo tired of hearing ppl troll a strain or a breeder, because they popped 1 or 2 seeds, &didnt get exactly what they wanted.
    Instead of that approach, I recommend planting as many as you can, then culling as you go. Just be sure to take a couple clones off of EVERY plant that makes the grade & gets moved into flower. That way, if/when you find your keeper(s), you have her clones & can then chuck or give away all the other clones you took. It takes a bit of extra space, but its better than growing some super dank, & not having a cutting to keep her going.
    I could not recommend Swami more highly. If you want a fancy website, feminized "padlocked" genetics, all taste no potency, or the same old same old - go elsewhere. If you want among the best, old school genetics in the world, & care most about the effect & potency - go to Swami. He is ridiculously generous, & deserves MUCH credit for keeping these super special ladies going, as well as for sharing his best strains :) Cant STAND breeders like "Exotic Genetix" who do that. They paid like $20k for the "Starfighter" strain, then locked it away, refusing to let anyone else have it. Instead, they keep it for themselves & use it to create countless non-true breeding hybrids that they sell for ridiculous prices. Swami does the opposite. Very thankful to him for releasing these genetics!! :D
     
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    jimihendrix1

    jimihendrix1 Well-Known Member

    I told you he would give you a bunch of extras.:bigjoint::bigjoint::bigjoint::weed::weed::weed::weed:

    Great Score!!!!!:clap::clap::clap::peace::peace:


    I also got my order of Blue Orca Haze, and BO X RKS today.

    I got 39 BOH x 18 BO x RKS. I only ordered 1 pack BOH They gave me a free pack of 15 + 9 extra of the BOH!!!!!

    Free Pack x 18 The One x Paki Chitral Kush

    So they gave me 75 seeds when I only ordered 30, and I got 3 strains vs 2.

    I also asked if they were giving extras ect, that I would like to have extra BOH, Or BO/Paki, and they gave me both.

    I also have another pack of the BO x RKS on the way. They will probably be here tomorrow.

    Also, the NL5 x Hz, and the BOH I gave to my buddy, all look really really good. I mean really healthy. I dont have pics, but all of them are really vigorous, with great side branching at 6 weeks. They do get really strong light using a 1000w Hortilux HPS plant bulb. They also germinatted very fast. I soaked them on a Saturday. Plabted them on a Sunday, and they were coming up on Monday, and were all up by Wed/Thurs. 100% germ rate out of 45.

    I also started 12 of the Original Release 1988 Nevils Hazeman/Nevils... yep, another Nevils G13 X Hash Plant, and was just discontinued a few days ago, as I was going to buy a few packs, and was informed they are gone.:cuss::cuss::cuss:So my buddy will have to keep some males and open pollinate a nice female.

    We plan on breeding a Male NL5 x Hz with a Female G13 x Hash Plant.

    But I think you will be really happy with the vigor, and the branching patterns of the 2 plants, I know so far my buddy, and I both are thinking these are doing and looking better than expected. Ive got a really nice photo of a BOH in veg, but this site wont let me post it, and its 1 of the nicest smaller container plants Ive seen. Most wouldnt consider a 5-10 gal pot small, ( I usually use 15-20 ) but this plant is beautiful, with a hard to believe branching pattern. Though the plant is probably 7ft tall, its also go really close internode spacing, and a very complex branching pattern, which should equal a huge yield.

    The plant/photo isnt mine, and I ran across it on the Mr Nice forum. It is there.

    Some, not the majority of the BOH, are a bit slower growers, but look very nice, I assume thats more of the Indica/Kandahar coming out.

    You better get some of those going, and give a report.:cuss::cuss::cuss::cuss::hump::hump::hump:
     
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