The 12-12 From Seed Thread

blood moon

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I was wondering, do you guys start with veg nutes or switch to bloom nutrients straight away? I understand that for the first couple of weeks cannabis won't flower, it has to mature. So maybe during this time it's a good idea to add vegetative specific nutrients and once flowers start occuring, switch to flowering nutes?
One drop of superiority per liter of water.anything more you are risking burning those little babies..to young to get hit hard with nuts..veg or bloom.
 

SPLFreak808

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I also am perpetual 12/12 from seed.in order to keep my girls from stretching I am constantly pinning them down .12/12 from seed in kahootz with L.S.T is a great technique..Also one drop of superthrive per liter of water seems to give me 90% females..the superthrive is not proven but seems to be working great.In the past year I have only had 3 males,out of sixty..I do not use feminized seeds.
Thats because you keep growing hermied bag seeds. Its not the superthrive.
 

blood moon

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O.K I didn't realize I was dealing with a clairvoyant.I never once said that I use bag seed!Because I don't.I order my seeds.but I do not waste my time with feminized cause they always hermie on me..Maybe it isn't the supermarket.I'm just sharing my experience with those who DONT think they know it all.that is the purpose of this forum.Those of you who know it all and wish to be condescending,...Write a fuckin book!!!just saying.
 

SPLFreak808

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O.K I didn't realize I was dealing with a clairvoyant.I never once said that I use bag seed!Because I don't.I order my seeds.but I do not waste my time with feminized cause they always hermie on me..Maybe it isn't the supermarket.I'm just sharing my experience with those who DONT think they know it all.that is the purpose of this forum.Those of you who know it all and wish to be condescending,...Write a fuckin book!!!just saying.
Please dont make me start a 1 month long superthrive thread. i still have the little brown superthrive bottles!. It's NOT the superthrive. If you think it is, then atleast tell us why? So... Why?
 

St1kybudz

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Thats because you keep growing hermied bag seeds. Its not the superthrive.
Some studies indicate that the environment can cause u to have more males or females heat stress will cause more males some people argue that the nutrient concentrations in the medium can cause more males to and the only reason people don't realize is most people don't monitor their grow closely enough one guy asked if he was over analyzing any true scientist knows the more critical one us of their measure the more accurate their experiment will be
 

SPLFreak808

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Some studies indicate that the environment can cause u to have more males or females heat stress will cause more males some people argue that the nutrient concentrations in the medium can cause more males to and the only reason people don't realize is most people don't monitor their grow closely enough one guy asked if he was over analyzing any true scientist knows the more critical one us of their measure the more accurate their experiment will be
Can you link these studies? We know environment plays a big role in how a photo-period plant grows or more specifically how a "phenotype" responds to its environment but i dont think it gets to change its chromosomes given by its parents unless induced through stress which will increase the hermaphrodite trait in its offspring.
 

GreenSanta

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jesus, long thread... got stoned, got to page 22 o_O
be sure not to miss out some of the valuable posts I have made somewhere between page 100 and 500 :bigjoint: I am just starting a handful of 12/12 from seed in the grow room coze I didnt keep up with my veg room ,... I have not done any 12/12 fs for a while I am stoked!! just like the gold old days, grow room is filled with diversity!!
 

sickleaf

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be sure not to miss out some of the valuable posts I have made somewhere between page 100 and 500 :bigjoint: I am just starting a handful of 12/12 from seed in the grow room coze I didnt keep up with my veg room ,... I have not done any 12/12 fs for a while I am stoked!! just like the gold old days, grow room is filled with diversity!!
haha
 

GreenSanta

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OK I ll save u some time... Key to 12/12 fs: large pot, 5-10 gallons, sweet spot at 7gallons I think. Organically amended potting soil (supersoil) and most importantly once the seeds are up you have less than a week to transplant them into ur big pot, ideally start the seeds in it. I've seen so many time people asking when do u start feeding bloom and stop feeding veg, the answer is nothing but water. With the right strain one can pull 6oz monster. At higher density you can do sea of green with pure indica but I always preferred hybrid for 12/12 fs. There u have it.

With regular seeds I ll direct seed 3 seeds or transplant 3 seedling per 10gal pots, pull the male(s) as they show sex and it works well...
 

sickleaf

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OK I ll save u some time... Key to 12/12 fs: large pot, 5-10 gallons, sweet spot at 7gallons I think. Organically amended potting soil (supersoil) and most importantly once the seeds are up you have less than a week to transplant them into ur big pot, ideally start the seeds in it. I've seen so many time people asking when do u start feeding bloom and stop feeding veg, the answer is nothing but water. With the right strain one can pull 6oz monster. At higher density you can do sea of green with pure indica but I always preferred hybrid for 12/12 fs. There u have it.

With regular seeds I ll direct seed 3 seeds or transplant 3 seedling per 10gal pots, pull the male(s) as they show sex and it works well...
Thanks a mill, gonna give it a try :bigjoint:

you rock dude! :clap:
 
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