The article was titled "Top 5 ways B.O. is no Nelson Mandela"........worth reading

SSHZ

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Hard to disagree, the last 3 sentences are "classic"........

1. Mandela was a uniter, Obama is a divider. Mandela was not above playing racial politics at times, but generally did all he could to bring people together, in both real and symbolic ways. He famously donned the Springbok rugby jersey, once a symbol hated by blacks, to show solidarity with whites. Mandela left South Africa more united than when he took office. Obama will leave the U.S. more divided than when he began.
2. Mandela obeyed the constitution and the courts, Obama flouts both. Mandela not only signed a constitution that guaranteed individual rights and constraints on state power, but made an impressive show of subjecting his administration to the will of the courts. Obama, by contrast, is "becoming the very danger the Constitution was designed to avoid," ignoring court rulings and greatly expanding his executive powers.
3. Mandela was fiscally responsible, Obama is profligate. Mandela's administration adopted a policy of macroeconomic stability in 1995, putting sound budgets and economic growth before redistribution, resisting massive internal pressure to spend liberally on the poor. Obama, by contrast, has expanded the national debt massively, with little to show for it in either terms of economic growth or addressing economic inequality.
4. Mandela reached out to the opposition, Obama ignores them. Mandela fought pitched political battles, first with F. W. de Klerk's National Party and then with Tony Leon's centrist Democratic Party (now the Democratic Alliance under Helen Zille). Yet he reached out constantly to his opponents and met frequently with them. Obama, however, barely bothers to consult his opponents and makes a point of marginalizing them.
5. Mandela was humble, Obama is arrogant. South Africans share stories of seeing Mandela walking down the highway on his daily exercise, or being greeted warmly by him as if by an old friend. He was a larger-than-life figure who was self-effacing, if dignified, in his bearing. Obama, however, built himself a fake Greek temple and refers to himself constantly, elevating himself crudely above the nation he was elected to lead.
Mandela and Obama do share some failings common to most leftist leaders. Mandela passed labor laws that the unions loved but which held back job creation. He tried to offer "free" housing and a "right" to health care, and the result was poor housing and the spread of HIV/Aids. Like Obama, Mandela had a soft spot for the tyrants of the world, including Fidel Castro and Yasser Arafat, who had supported Mandela's banned movement in exile.
Yet the contrast is striking. Mandela could have been an inspirational, radical, but ultimately failed political leader, an African Che Guevara. Instead, he chose to be a statesman, dropping revolution for reconciliation. Obama will endure as a historical figure but not as a great president. At almost every turn, he has chosen to pursue failed and outdated ideologies instead of seizing the opportunity to restore America's potential.
 

travisw

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Hard to disagree, the last 3 sentences are "classic"........

1. Mandela was a uniter, Obama is a divider. Mandela was not above playing racial politics at times, but generally did all he could to bring people together, in both real and symbolic ways. He famously donned the Springbok rugby jersey, once a symbol hated by blacks, to show solidarity with whites. Mandela left South Africa more united than when he took office. Obama will leave the U.S. more divided than when he began.
2. Mandela obeyed the constitution and the courts, Obama flouts both. Mandela not only signed a constitution that guaranteed individual rights and constraints on state power, but made an impressive show of subjecting his administration to the will of the courts. Obama, by contrast, is "becoming the very danger the Constitution was designed to avoid," ignoring court rulings and greatly expanding his executive powers.
3. Mandela was fiscally responsible, Obama is profligate. Mandela's administration adopted a policy of macroeconomic stability in 1995, putting sound budgets and economic growth before redistribution, resisting massive internal pressure to spend liberally on the poor. Obama, by contrast, has expanded the national debt massively, with little to show for it in either terms of economic growth or addressing economic inequality.
4. Mandela reached out to the opposition, Obama ignores them. Mandela fought pitched political battles, first with F. W. de Klerk's National Party and then with Tony Leon's centrist Democratic Party (now the Democratic Alliance under Helen Zille). Yet he reached out constantly to his opponents and met frequently with them. Obama, however, barely bothers to consult his opponents and makes a point of marginalizing them.
5. Mandela was humble, Obama is arrogant. South Africans share stories of seeing Mandela walking down the highway on his daily exercise, or being greeted warmly by him as if by an old friend. He was a larger-than-life figure who was self-effacing, if dignified, in his bearing. Obama, however, built himself a fake Greek temple and refers to himself constantly, elevating himself crudely above the nation he was elected to lead.
Mandela and Obama do share some failings common to most leftist leaders. Mandela passed labor laws that the unions loved but which held back job creation. He tried to offer "free" housing and a "right" to health care, and the result was poor housing and the spread of HIV/Aids. Like Obama, Mandela had a soft spot for the tyrants of the world, including Fidel Castro and Yasser Arafat, who had supported Mandela's banned movement in exile.
Yet the contrast is striking. Mandela could have been an inspirational, radical, but ultimately failed political leader, an African Che Guevara. Instead, he chose to be a statesman, dropping revolution for reconciliation. Obama will endure as a historical figure but not as a great president. At almost every turn, he has chosen to pursue failed and outdated ideologies instead of seizing the opportunity to restore America's potential.

I just read on another thread Mandela was some sort of murder loving commie piece of shit. Your blog post or whatever the fuck it is, says Obama is no Mandela.

I thought many of our more conservative friends would happily apply the murdering commie label to Obama as well. Are you claiming Obama is something else entirely new, or just not nearly as good at being a murdering commie as Mandela was?
 

abandonconflict

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I just read on another thread Mandela was some sort of murder loving commie piece of shit. Your blog post or whatever the fuck it is, says Obama is no Mandela.

I thought many of our more conservative friends would happily apply the murdering commie label to Obama as well. Are you claiming Obama is something else entirely new, or just not nearly as good at being a murdering commie as Mandela was?
Omgz. You caught them.
 

SSHZ

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This was an article on biggovernment.com I found...........I was just curious as to the reaction it would receive on here and what the comments would be.
 

SSHZ

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But I do find it interesting that no one has refuted the comparisons made in the article.........and I am guessing it's because it basically true.
 

abandonconflict

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"No one is born hating another person because of the color of his skin, or his background, or his religion. People must learn to hate, and if they can learn to hate, they can be taught to love, for love comes more naturally to the human heart than its opposite." - Nelson Mandela
 

abandonconflict

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"Gandhi rejects the Adam Smith notion of human nature as motivated by self interest and brute needs and returns us to our spiritual dimension with its impulses for nonviolence justice and equality. He exposes the fallacy of the claim that everyone can be rich and successful provided they work hard. He points us to the millions who work themselves to the bone and still remain hungry." -Nelson Mandela
 
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