The DNC Reports Lowest Fundraising Since 2003
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Fogdog
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Fogdog
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evidence for rigging primaries? Put your best evidence for rigging primaries forward so that we can review it.
(hint: wikileaks ... snicker)
SneekyNinja
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I actually feel bad for Sanders.
He could have such widespread support but his supporters are such assholes to everyone who don't want to sing their exact version of leftism.
It's also pretty embarrassing that he endorsed Clinton and still his supporters can't even think about her without losing their tiny fucking minds.
He could have such widespread support but his supporters are such assholes to everyone who don't want to sing their exact version of leftism.
It's also pretty embarrassing that he endorsed Clinton and still his supporters can't even think about her without losing their tiny fucking minds.
Fogdog
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oh gawd. Another thought guide from Roemer's stealth right wing "progressive" propaganda organ. fuck that.
Next year is another round of congressional elections. A healthy movement is afoot to push the progressive agenda by several factions within the Democratic Party. Factions such as Justice Democrats and those who are still butt hurt by Clinton's sound thrashing of Bernie Sanders are pushing their own candidates. Some are eschewing corporate and super-PAC donations. Others are running on a Universal Healthcare or bust policy. Others are even running against fossil fuel industry in states that have large numbers of workers in that same industry. Within those same races are Democrats who oppose those candidates on more conservative grounds. Voters in each district can donate to whomever they like and then vote for them too.
I'm all for this idea churn. I think it's healthy. I don't get your hate on a party that doesn't demand absolute adherence to an ideological checklist. The voters in each district will have their pick. Why do you oppose that?
ttystikk
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Secular Talk is not TYT. I understand your confusion, however; unlike Democrats and Republicans, they don't just sling shit but talk about the issues.
Fogdog
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Next year is another round of congressional elections. A healthy movement is afoot to push the progressive agenda by several factions within the Democratic Party. Factions such as Justice Democrats and those who are still butt hurt by Clinton's sound thrashing of Bernie Sanders are pushing their own candidates. Some are eschewing corporate and super-PAC donations. Others are running on a Universal Healthcare or bust policy. Others are even running against fossil fuel industry in states that have large numbers of workers in that same industry. Within those same races are Democrats who oppose those candidates on more conservative grounds. Voters in each district can donate to whomever they like and then vote for them too.
I'm all for this idea churn. I think it's healthy. I don't get your hate on a party that doesn't demand absolute adherence to an ideological checklist. The voters in each district will have their pick. Why do you oppose that?
Fogdog
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You took the easy shot and just miffed on the hard question. So I reposted the real question to you ^^^
As far as Secular Talk is concerned, I sat through way too many of your and pad's postings of mealy mouth guy who spoke as one with TYT. I fail to see the difference. One is for sure a paid for propaganda organ. The other appears to be.
ttystikk
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If these Democrats can convince me of their sincerity in pushing for these things, I'm all for them.
My gripe has been 40 years of appearances and profits for political consultants as opposed to policy. If they stay that course- inertia being hard to overcome- I'm having none of it.
The idea that TYT and secular Talk are paid propaganda and the two major parties aren't is so laughable that I am going to suggest you start wearing hats because you've clearly been in the sun too long.
Fogdog
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Ok, so you got your beliefs across. Do you have any facts at hand?
Clearly there was too much for you to handle in my post. So, I'll start with one question.
Next year is another round of congressional elections. A healthy movement is afoot to push the progressive agenda by several factions within the Democratic Party. Factions such as Justice Democrats. The voters in each district will have their pick. Why do you oppose that?
ttystikk
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Where did you get the idea I oppose Justice Democrats?
Fogdog
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fukanA
Re-read. I don't say you oppose JD. What I hear you opposing is any candidate accepting corporate money. In the next primary, Democrats of all stripes will be running for office including those who accept all legal donations and those who only accept individual contributions. With that framing, let me repeat a question:
The voters in each district will have their pick. Why do you oppose that?
Padawanbater2
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We oppose the idea of corporations buying elections because it subverts democracy
Justin-case
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What about Russians buying elections?
ttystikk
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A separate issue, but certainly no better. And absolutely not justification.
SneekyNinja
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Why do your side call people:
•Sneaky Penny Pinching Jew Bastards
•West African Primates
•Faggot
•Etc
And still expect credibility?
UncleBuck
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to be fair, tty has never said any of those things.
but he did co-sponsor padaraper's thought that black people have a "herd like mentality" and is pretty harsh on israel. neither of which is very progressive or appealing to the democratic party's highly black and jewish base.
https://www.rollitup.org/t/who-do-you-think-is-primarily-to-blame-for-the-trump-administration.937726/
here, him and padaraper agree that black people have a "herd-like mentality" as they race to embrace some racist sock puppet.
SneekyNinja
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I apologize to tty if it seemed I implied it was him, it isn't.
I was only referring to the company he keeps (I disagree with him on most everything but he seems like good peoples) and how it discredits his message.