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The flush "myth"

Discussion in 'General Marijuana Growing' started by DirtyD313, Mar 17, 2017.

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    coreywebster

    coreywebster Well-Known Member

    Said it before in another flush thread, I believe people flushed to allow the plant to feed from itself and reduce chlorophyll in the leaves which ment a lesser curing time. Almost all of us were illegal growers previously and those that did commercial grows did not want to spend the time to cure their harvests, it had to be dried and out of the door as soon as possible. Leeching out the chlorophyll creates a smoother taste, the harsher taste been wrongly tied to nutrients or salts in the plant.
    So its a time saving exercise, or it was.
     
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    Flowki

    Flowki Well-Known Member

    I don't know why people would fight against it because it will be saving a lot of unnecessary work. Moral of the story, admitting being wrong, easier said than done.

    To coincidentally admit I was wrong with ought the intention of looking like a smart ass ;p.. I did think reducing nutes toward the end for a fade would have some merit. So it seems the only path is to reduce nutes in account for the lower demand near the end but not to the point of under feeding?.
     
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    WitchDoctor

    WitchDoctor Member

    I don't flush before harvesting..I grow organic Cannabis...
     
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    Yodaweed

    Yodaweed Well-Known Member

    same, flushing is for the fools who use salts
     
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    Budley Doright

    Budley Doright Well-Known Member

    Sorry but cow shit doesn't mix well in my res and tends to plug my filters, call me foolish lol.
     
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    Yodaweed

    Yodaweed Well-Known Member

    Why grow hydro when the results are inferior and cost more to produce? Seems foolish to me.
    I understand it's a hell of a lot easier since you have someone basically do everything for you( they even PH your nutes now) but doing things the hard way pays off.
     
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    Budley Doright

    Budley Doright Well-Known Member

    I do both ;). I actually like the taste of my hydro, both taste great IMO. I grow my hydro in winter (works better for me) and organic compost outdoors. Ya it's expensive but 99% of the cost is my electricity :(.
     
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    Yodaweed

    Yodaweed Well-Known Member

    i grow hydro too but it never compares to my organic, i got a couple RDWC water farm systems(also done coco), tried just about every type of salt based nutrient out there, still nothing compares to my ROLS grown plants that cost less by a hell of a lot.
     
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    Budley Doright

    Budley Doright Well-Known Member

    What is ROLS?
     
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    Yodaweed

    Yodaweed Well-Known Member

    recycled organic living soil it gets better every run, my current batch is 3 years old.
     
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    Budley Doright

    Budley Doright Well-Known Member

    Oh ok, ya me too lol. My batch is probably 20 lol. I just keep throwing the stuff back in the pile and add to it each spring. No recipe, just a whole bunch of everything, I even throw a bit of cormorant poop in every couple of years :). My whole farm is certified organic for milk production.
     
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    Yodaweed

    Yodaweed Well-Known Member

    the recipe is kinda important, mainly the most important thing is what you use as your base (peat or coco ) but besides from that yea anything that's organic and can decompose works great.

    Take a look at this thread, lots of good recipes on there

    http://www.rollitup.org/t/recycled-...-no-till-thread.636057/page-403#post-13420596
     
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    Budley Doright

    Budley Doright Well-Known Member

    Ya I'll have a look but my throwing a bunch of stuff in a pile seems to be working well with what I've been doing for 45 years lol. Last year was a struggle though, worst drought in my memory :(, one cut of hay and it was shit.
     
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    just_me

    just_me Member

    All I want to say on this, is a see for yourself test. If you walk on soaked ground you will notice two things as you walk, bubbles will come up and the soil will pack. Packed soil restricts drainage, and leaves little room for air.
     
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    Budley Doright

    Budley Doright Well-Known Member

    Not sure what your getting at really, but yup that's true, compacted soil is not conductive to good growth. That's why Yoda uses peat and or coco I would guess?
     
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    chemphlegm

    chemphlegm Well-Known Member


    at first I was like o_O:shock: :finger: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cormorant but then I was like :!: :rolleyes: :weed::hug:
     
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    just_me

    just_me Member

    I guess I`m trying to say that flushing will pack the soil in the pots, slowing capillary action. Other type growers need not worry about that. Most grow in soil though.

    You`re right about Yoda.
     
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    Budley Doright

    Budley Doright Well-Known Member

    Got ya, I agree.
     
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    Budley Doright

    Budley Doright Well-Known Member

    Lol, ya it works great. Used to go to rookeries that were not being used in the middle of Lake Ontario and fill a boat, think I got a lung disease but it was cheap fertilizer when your 16 LOL.
     
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    tstick

    tstick Well-Known Member

    For me, in my garden, I can't stress enough how important it is to use soil amendments that open up and lighten the soil and create a lot of airspace so that when you water, you can push a lot of water quickly through the soil and pull in that good oxygen through the roots. I love the chunky perlite...and even regular perlite helps. Whatever your soil blend happens to be -whatever guano and meals you have in there, you just gotta open it up for those roots to have lots and lots of space to breath and then push that water through the soil quick, fast and in a hurry so that the incoming water pulls that oxygen in behind it like a piston. I'm a believer in allowing the soil to dry out between waterings -not bone-dry, but dry...and then giving them a thorough watering.

    I also am a new convert to Smart Pots just because they drain fast and allow more oxygen exchange.
     

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