The NRA declares war on the NY Times

Jimdamick

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https://www.nratv.com/series/commentators/episode/commentators-season-7-episode-1-taking-on-the-times

The election of President Donald Trump and Republican control of Congress meant the National Rifle Association could probably rest easy that gun laws wouldn't change for at least four years. But the NRA has begun a campaign not against pending legislation but what it sees as liberal forces bent on undoing the progress it's made — and the political powerhouse is resorting to language that some believe could incite violence.

Using the hashtags #counterresistance and #clenchedfistoftruth, the NRA has put out a series of videos that announce a "shot across the bow," and say the gun-rights group is "coming for you" and that "elites ... threaten our very survival," terms that suggest opponents are enemy combatants.

"The times are burning and the media elites have been caught holding the match," NRA spokeswoman Dana Loesch says in one video (see above) aired on NRATV, the gun lobby's web video site, as it shows footage of people fighting police, breaking storefront glass and burning the American flag.

Later, she specifically calls out The New York Times: "We've had it with your narratives, your propaganda, your fake news. We've had it with your constant protection of your Democrat overlords, your refusal to acknowledge any truth that upsets the fragile construct that you believe is real life. And we've had it with your tone-deaf assertion that you are in any way truth or fact-based journalism," Loesch says. "Consider this the shot across your proverbial bow. ... In short? We're coming for you."

The NRA, of which I used to be a member of because 40 years ago it stood for hunters, gun safety and the environment (it actually did) not mad men like La Pierre (a sell out to the gun industry and a fascist), has become a bastion of insane right wing weapons owners, a group that now threatens, literally, the so-called "media elites" with what it seems to be actual physical harm.

So, now it seems we have a "new" terrorist group in this nation, another one ( KKK/neo-Nazi/white supremacists ) that drapes the American flag over it's shoulders, and explicitly threatens the news media, for simply telling the truth.

In Trump World, shit just keeps getting better and better, each and every day in this country

#MAGA (Impeach)
 

SneekyNinja

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You have something against the NRA too?
Only because it's now run by nut jobs...

Gun owners should just be responsible, the same way car owners are expected to be.

Keep that shit locked up when you're not using it (there's some really cool pistol safes that are ridiculously quick open and present the weapon "ready to go") and let's keep them out of the hands of nut jobs...

Is that so much to ask? The background check records don't even need to be kept, all the seller would need is a green or red pop-up when they do a search for the person on a centralized database. Perhaps require a certificate from a doctor to say you're fit and mentally sound?

I'm a gun owner and it concerns me the easy access to weapons for people of unsound mind, I don't mind having to present a little more paperwork to buy a new gun.

Even if it was just once per year and then you can buy whatever you want without further checks until that date next year?

I also think what people already own should be grandfathered without question.

See? Democrats don't want to take your guns (we own guns too)...we just don't want mentally unstable people buying them.
 

Jimdamick

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You have something against the NRA too?
Yea, I have a problem with the NRA, seeing as now the majority of it's members are nut job's, that are now pushing the boundaries of civilised discussion by an outright threat against the NYT
Any, and all restrictions on gun ownership are off the table for those lunatics, and that is just wrong.
I live in Newtown, CT, the town where the massacre of the 20 1st graders and 6 teachers occurred in 2012, where a diagnosed mentally handicapped person, Adam Lanza murdered them.
His mother, who bought him the weapons, was also murdered by her insane.son, whom she actually bought the guns for, was a NRA member, and should have known better than allow her son anywhere near a firearm.
Big mistake for her (tough shit) and a larger mistake for our community.
Fuck the NRA, they are a bane on our society.
 

Stroker

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Yea, I have a problem with the NRA, seeing as now the majority of it's members are nut job's, that are now pushing the boundaries of civilised discussion by an outright threat against the NYT
Any, and all restrictions on gun ownership are off the table for those lunatics, and that is just wrong.
I live in Newtown, CT, the town where the massacre of the 20 1st graders and 6 teachers occurred in 2012, where a diagnosed mentally handicapped person, Adam Lanza murdered them.
His mother, who bought him the weapons, was also murdered by her insane.son, whom she actually bought the guns for, was a NRA member, and should have known better than allow her son anywhere near a firearm.
Big mistake for her (tough shit) and a larger mistake for our community.
Fuck the NRA, they are a bane on our society.
Make up your mind! You from Canada or Newton CT
 

Stroker

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Never said I was from Canada, spent most of my youth in Ireland, spent the rest of my miserable life in the USA.
And it's Newtown, not Newton
spent the rest of my miserable life in the USA. Thats the reason for all the hate you spread. Be happy, come to Trumpville !
 

Jimdamick

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spent the rest of my miserable life in the USA. Thats the reason for all the hate you spread. Be happy, come to Trumpville !
I look at this country a little different than you. I was born in NY in 1956, and spent all my summer holidays in Ireland from the time I was 7, until I was 16, and that might have something to do with the reason I fucking hate some of things that occurred, and are occurring now in OUR country, and around the world at our behest.
I grew up with the assassinations of the Kennedys, MLK, Malcolm X, then through Cuba and Castro, Ho Chi Ming and Vietnam and with the riots that were everywhere protesting Vietnam, add Kent State and Selma and for good measure civil rights, so a black person actually could drink from the same water fountain as a white man.

The 60's and the early 1970's was a war zone in this country, (the 80's were cool, nice blow, good LSD and cheap pot, although AID's was a bitch)

So yes, I have hate, pure fucking hate for a lot of the things that are going on in this country right now, because it brings back memories of some horrible shit, and I don't want to revisit it.

 
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Fogdog

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I look at this country a little different than you. I was born in NY in 1956, and spent all my summer holidays in Ireland from the time I was 7, until I was 16, and that might have something to do with the reason I fucking hate some of things that occurred, and are occurring now in OUR country, and around the world at our behest.
I grew up with the assassinations of the Kennedys, MLK, Malcolm X, then through Cuba and Castro, Ho Chi Ming and Vietnam and with the riots that were everywhere protesting Vietnam, add Kent State and Selma and for good measure civil rights, so a black person actually could drink from the same water fountain as a white man.

The 60's and the early 1970's was a war zone in this country, (the 80's were cool, nice blow, good LSD and cheap pot, although AID's was a bitch)

So yes, I have hate, pure fucking hate for a lot of the things that are going on in this country right now, because it brings back memories of some horrible shit, and I don't want to revisit it.

Agree that today's news echos the news of the 60's and early 70's. I can see how the rhetoric of the right recalls memories of people who said exactly the same shit back then. Especially the lies made to the US public by its leaders. The images of racial violence are way similar.
 

Fogdog

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I think all of this unrest today is because the boomers of the 60's and early 70's stopped protesting and went on to living the high life of the 80's. The young white boomers abandoned civil rights protests as soon as the war ended.

This recalls to me what young white Berners are doing right now. After 8 years of a black president and continuous pressure to change social attitudes towards race, the so called "Sanders left" are abandoning calls made by Black Lives Matter and eschewing political correctness. Even villifying those who are applying social pressure to stop the gratuitous insults to minorities and women made by ignorant white men by calling them "social justice warriors". "Kick sjw to the curb". It's early but appears to me to be an abandonment of a movement for real social change and replace it with some fiscal reforms and political reforms that will just kick the necessary social changes this country has to make for a later time.

I see the changes proposed by Bernie as necessary and will be glad to see them enacted. It is progress. Also right wing Congress is not good for the country and needs to end ASAP. But we are falling short of real change in our society. This white pivot to the center will just perpetuate the social injustices of yesterday and today into tomorrow. I am truly disappointed in our weak white youth.
 

Stroker

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I think ALL politicians are dirty and just want the money. I thought WE THE PEOPLE was something to believe in, but not so much anymore.
 

Fogdog

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I think ALL politicians are dirty and just want the money. I thought WE THE PEOPLE was something to believe in, but not so much anymore.
Stroker, you voted for Trump. The dirtiest most venal and least prepared president any of us have ever seen or hope to see. Trump was never "WE THE PEOPLE", Trump only ever was "ME ME ME". Are you saying you didn't know?
 

Stroker

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Stroker, you voted for Trump. The dirtiest most venal and least prepared president any of us have ever seen or hope to see. Trump was never "WE THE PEOPLE", Trump only ever was "ME ME ME". Are you saying you didn't know?
Why would you say that? proof please.
 
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