The Psychology of Modern Leftism.

hanimmal

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THE PSYCHOLOGY OF MODERN LEFTISM



6. Almost everyone will agree that we live in a deeply troubled
society. One of the most widespread manifestations of the craziness of
our world is leftism, so a discussion of the psychology of leftism can
serve as an introduction to the discussion of the problems of modern
society in general.

7. But what is leftism? During the first half of the 20th century
leftism could have been practically identified with socialism. Today
the movement is fragmented and it is not clear who can properly be
called a leftist. When we speak of leftists in this article we have in
mind mainly socialists, collectivists, "politically correct" types,
feminists, gay and disability activists, animal rights activists and
the like. But not everyone who is associated with one of these
movements is a leftist. What we are trying to get at in discussing
leftism is not so much a movement or an ideology as a psychological
type, or rather a collection of related types. Thus, what we mean by
"leftism" will emerge more clearly in the course of our discussion of
leftist psychology (Also, see paragraphs 227-230.)

8. Even so, our conception of leftism will remain a good deal less
clear than we would wish, but there doesn't seem to be any remedy for
this. All we are trying to do is indicate in a rough and approximate
way the two psychological tendencies that we believe are the main
driving force of modern leftism. We by no means claim to be telling
the WHOLE truth about leftist psychology. Also, our discussion is
meant to apply to modern leftism only. We leave open the question of
the extent to which our discussion could be applied to the leftists of
the 19th and early 20th century.

9. The two psychological tendencies that underlie modern leftism we
call "feelings of inferiority" and "oversocialization." Feelings of
inferiority are characteristic of modern leftism as a whole, while
oversocialization is characteristic only of a certain segment of
modern leftism; but this segment is highly influential.
 

hanimmal

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Weird right? I am watching the unibomber on 'nat geo' and he went nuts, they mentioned his manifesto, so I was glancing at it when I came across this.

THought I would share the leftist part, because it is not that different sounding from what, well you know.

Anyway thought I would share.

 

dukeofbaja

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Wow, lumping all lefties under one broad umbrella. Must be comforting to have 8 pages of text that allow you to stop thinking critically about how things actually are
 

MuyLocoNC

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This is just a repost of a previous and very long thread. We discussed at length how accurate his views on "Progressives" or "Leftism" actually are. Just goes to show that it's so painfully obvious, even the criminally insane can't help but to recognize the traits of the modern Libtard.
 

dukeofbaja

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All I keep getting out of anyone right of center on the politics forum is personal attack. No attempt to even express a viewpoint, just a need to attack and ridicule. Please read through my posts and point out one personal attack I have made. Then go through and look for one decent, well-articulated argument from an opposing view (one that does not include personal attack). Examples of either do not exist.

All these personal attacks are just a sign that you have run out of room to stand on, and thus resort to name calling. Pathetic. Grow up and try to justify your point of view with something other than homophobia, hatred, or ignorance.
 

hanimmal

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This is just a repost of a previous and very long thread. We discussed at length how accurate his views on "Progressives" or "Leftism" actually are. Just goes to show that it's so painfully obvious, even the criminally insane can't help but to recognize the traits of the modern Libtard.
Or!

That there is not a lot that separates the criminally insane from the people that feel this way.

All I keep getting out of anyone right of center on the politics forum is personal attack. No attempt to even express a viewpoint, just a need to attack and ridicule. Please read through my posts and point out one personal attack I have made. Then go through and look for one decent, well-articulated argument from an opposing view (one that does not include personal attack). Examples of either do not exist.

All these personal attacks are just a sign that you have run out of room to stand on, and thus resort to name calling. Pathetic. Grow up and try to justify your point of view with something other than homophobia, hatred, or ignorance.
Don't sweat it, a lot of people on this website are assholes. They really don't mean to be I don't think (well some do), but we all just at times get fired up when we talk about politics,especially when they cannot do the last sentence.
 

RickWhite

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All I keep getting out of anyone right of center on the politics forum is personal attack. No attempt to even express a viewpoint, just a need to attack and ridicule. Please read through my posts and point out one personal attack I have made. Then go through and look for one decent, well-articulated argument from an opposing view (one that does not include personal attack). Examples of either do not exist.

All these personal attacks are just a sign that you have run out of room to stand on, and thus resort to name calling. Pathetic. Grow up and try to justify your point of view with something other than homophobia, hatred, or ignorance.

You have it exactly backward. Personal attacks and the inability to address a matter with substance are hallmarks of the Left. One only needs read the threads on this forum or visit popular Left and Right websites for this to be abundantly clear.

If you claim that no examples of well articulated, intelligent viewpoints from people on the Right exist, you either don't read this forum often or are simply lying.

And the info in the OP, albeit from a mad man is not a personal attack - it is a theory that attempts to describe a given mindset just like any other theory of personality. Kezinski was in fact a brilliant man. It is unfortunate he lost his mind and did horrible things, but he was brilliant never the less. Really, when you think about it, your response is more devoid of substance and of an ad-hominem nature than any other in this thread. And it is completely untrue as well.
 

Osoheil

Member
I really don't understand this thread. How could the information in the first post do anything positive or even generate good discussion? It is the same type of thing I hear all the time from Limbaugh/Beck/Fox News.


BTW I do not consider myself a liberal. Though RickWhite probably thinks I, like most academic types, is pushing an ultra liberal agenda with my fact seeking and rational thinking causing so many problems.

I voted for Ron Paul.
 

abe23

Active Member
If you claim that no examples of well articulated, intelligent viewpoints from people on the Right exist, you either don't read this forum often or are simply lying.
Not really...

Most of what I come across is this fundamentalist approach to the constitution, where everything is taken to the extreme. Then there's the decrying of the deficit along with proposing tax cuts as a solution to EVERYTHING without acknowledging that those two things are completely contradictory if you're dealing with the real world. And then there's a lot of anger towards obama and 'liberals' in general.

But examples "well articulated, intelligent viewpoints" are few and far between and serious suggestions about what to do instead are virtually non-existent. But don't beat yourselves up about it; your guys in congress aren't doing much better either, which is why obama speaking at their meeting was such a smack-down...
 

dukeofbaja

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I have heard lots of well-articulated, intelligent viewpoints from the right over the years. But my frustration lies in the fact that I am not hearing any in this forum, at least not so far.
 

redivider

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You have it exactly backward. Personal attacks and the inability to address a matter with substance are hallmarks of the Left. One only needs read the threads on this forum or visit popular Left and Right websites for this to be abundantly clear.

If you claim that no examples of well articulated, intelligent viewpoints from people on the Right exist, you either don't read this forum often or are simply lying.
name calling and personal attacks are just how it is here. the 'left' and the 'right' both enjoy the activity with great enthusiasm. no one on this forum is beyond name-calling because it is a forum, it's a sterile environment, there's no immediate threat.

there's been good and bad points made on this forum. i've made good and bad ones, you have too. there's been more name calling between several 'righties' and myself in the last year than there ever was between me and my siblings in my entire childhood.

and the OP didn't bother me. didn't read it the whole way through though. i thought it wasn't properly written, monotonous and boring. but then again i don't know what audience the author was planning to entertain.

either way, it's superbowl sunday. have fun kids! imma go watch that game now.....
 

RickWhite

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I really don't understand this thread. How could the information in the first post do anything positive or even generate good discussion?
I don't doubt that. You clearly haven't taken a course in psychology. There are numerous theories on what makes people think the way they do. They are all designed to help us better understand life. You know, that whole knowledge is power thing.

But as I have pointed out at length, because the Left tends to reason from a position of dogma, they assume everyone else does.

That is why instead of learning from the points made in the original post (or even considering them), you reflexively block and counter with a mindless generalized Left wing rebuttal.
 

abe23

Active Member
But as I have pointed out at length, because the Left tends to reason from a position of dogma, they assume everyone else does.
Yea...just because you say so, doesn't make it true....even if you state it repeatedly and "at length".

Despite all the bullshit coming the peanut gallery, barack obama is actually one of the more pragmatist president in recent years. If you want to look at people who are dogmatic ideologues, go talk to the guys calling for "tax cuts" to solve every problem under the sun.
 

matthew

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There is actually a lot of underlying psychology in the idea that all people who oppose you are mentally deficient or ill. Not only does it show a fundamental disconnect from reality (half the nation could not possibly be "criminally insane", our system would collapse overnight) but also an incredibly myopic point of view.
 
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Illegal Smile

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What we're to take from this is that anyone who doubts the psychological well-being of the left is akin to the unabomber. hanimmal, can I have your mailing address? :eyesmoke:
 

RickWhite

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Yea...just because you say so, doesn't make it true....even if you state it repeatedly and "at length".

Despite all the bullshit coming the peanut gallery, barack obama is actually one of the more pragmatist president in recent years. If you want to look at people who are dogmatic ideologues, go talk to the guys calling for "tax cuts" to solve every problem under the sun.
No, what makes it true is that in the thread I wrote on the subject I was able not only to describe in clearly observable detail how those on the Left process thoughts, but I was able to predict exactly how they would respond. In science, prediction and the ability to reproduce a result is the highest form of proof.

Nearly always, a Left leaning person will respond to something they disagree with in the following way.

1) Does this fit my dogma?
2) If not, it must be their dogma because it's all dogma.
3) Their dogma is evil - mine is good.
4) Show why my dogma is better.
5) If 4 fails point out number 3.

That is Left wing thinking in 5 easy steps. Every post written by the lefties in this forum follows this pattern. I call that proof.

I should copy this list to my sig line and paste the numbers into every Liberal post I see to show which part of the logic stream each sentance matches.
 
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PadawanBater

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No, what makes it true is that in the thread I wrote on the subject I was able not only to describe in clearly observable detail how those on the Right process thoughts, but I was able to predict exactly how they would respond. In science, prediction and the ability to reproduce a result is the highest form of proof.

Nearly always, a Right leaning person will respond to something they disagree with in the following way.

1) Does this fit my dogma?
2) If not, it must be their dogma because it's all dogma.
3) Their dogma is evil - mine is good.
4) Show why my dogma is better.
5) If 4 fails point out number 3.

That is Right wing thinking in 5 easy steps. Every post written by the righties in this forum follows this pattern. I call that proof.

I should copy this list to my sig line and paste the numbers into every Conservative post I see to show which part of the logic stream each sentance matches.
When you can replace polar opposite words to make the same nonsensical argument look equally as valid - that is, not at all - that should tell you something, Rick.

But you fail to see it each and every time.
 

abe23

Active Member
No, what makes it true is that in the thread I wrote on the subject I was able not only to describe in clearly observable detail how those on the Left process thoughts, but I was able to predict exactly how they would respond. In science, prediction and the ability to reproduce a result is the highest form of proof.

Nearly always, a Left leaning person will respond to something they disagree with in the following way.

1) Does this fit my dogma?
2) If not, it must be their dogma because it's all dogma.
3) Their dogma is evil - mine is good.
4) Show why my dogma is better.
5) If 4 fails point out number 3.

That is Left wing thinking in 5 easy steps. Every post written by the lefties in this forum follows this pattern. I call that proof.

I should copy this list to my sig line and paste the numbers into every Liberal post I see to show which part of the logic stream each sentance matches.
Ricky, one last time. Just because people disagree with you doesn't mean that they don't arrive at logical conclusions through rational thinking. You always assume that just because someone is disagreeing with you, they must either be leftist ideologues who refuse to acknowledge facts or simply dumber than you are. This is not the case.

Ever considered that I might have different views from yours because I've had different experiences, a different education, different ambitions and maybe have a different outlook on life. Maybe I support barack obama, not because I'm lobotomized moron who doesn't understand anything, but because I have slightly different perspective on things. I don't assume that anyone who is a conservative or a republican is an idiot, criminally insane or necessarily an asshole, but rather try to understand where they are coming from and try give them an understanding of my perspective.

But when you start every discussion about politics by saying "liberals are all assholes" and all that jazz, it makes it kind of hard to talk about anything seriously. This is why I've given up on discussing anything with you. You obviously understand this stuff and are able to express yourself better than most, but you avoid any sort of real discussion by posting shit like this.
 
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