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The Shed Chronicles, or Jelly's Lab.

Discussion in 'Newbie Central' started by Jellypowered, May 4, 2017.

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    horribleherk

    horribleherk Well-Known Member

    you're a busy man lol.. all this & a clutch job too!
     
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    Jellypowered

    Jellypowered Well-Known Member

    That clutch job actually ended up taking two days total. I learned if I ever volunteer to do more work like that I'll do it in my garage not in their drive way lol. I missed my tools that was for sure
     
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    horribleherk

    horribleherk Well-Known Member

    especially if it's a dirt driveway been awhile since I've done a clutch job I used to make money doing stuff like that then I got lazy lol....
     
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    Jellypowered

    Jellypowered Well-Known Member

    I keep getting told I need to open a shop, but the overhead and stress of deadlines would kill the enjoyment for me lol
     
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    ttystikk

    ttystikk Well-Known Member

    Friends are grateful; customers are assholes.

    It's the American way!
     
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    Jellypowered

    Jellypowered Well-Known Member

    So I decided to abandon the thought of a "plastic" grow box, I really dislike working with it. I had a 8 foot long wooden bar left over from my vape shop, I cut it down to 3 foot wide, added some legs so I won't have to bend over to work with the plants (ghetto, i know) and this is where I stopped for the night.

    Got a few questions for you Micro Pros.

    Usable grow area is ~3ft wide, ~2 ft deep, roughly 30" tall, however i'm trying to limit my usable height to "24 inches"

    Lighting:
    Right now, Lighting is gonna be the 15 bulb fixture while i'm just "winging" it. Was thinking about cobs, QB's or EB Strips. or a mix of everything. I'm open to suggestions.
    Ventilation:
    Obviously my ventilation needs will depend on my lighting. So... whatever I go with, I want quiet whatever I do since this will be in my spare bathroom.
    Grow Process
    What would ya'll prefer to use? DWC? Coco? Hempy? again, open for suggestions.
    Photo Nov 04, 6 58 43 PM.jpg
    Kitty approves of shoddy work.

    Hope ya'll don't mind me tagging you for advice.
    @xX_BHMC_Xx @Colanoscopy @ttystikk @horribleherk @luv2grow
    Feel free to tag someone if you think they got good intel for me.
     
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    Jellypowered

    Jellypowered Well-Known Member

    Oh yeah, Got 2 bag seed, 2 ssh sprouts. The autos seem to not want to sprout, but i'll give em time. I'm kinda excited about the bag seed, never know what you're gonna get! lol.
     
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    horribleherk

    horribleherk Well-Known Member

    strips , q/b or perhaps t-5 all of those are low profile I'm wanting to build a veg box about that size you've got a good idea with that cfl fixture as you already have it lately I'm liking coco/smart pot type stuff after having the dwc go south on me over the summer
     
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    Jellypowered

    Jellypowered Well-Known Member

    IMG_2161.JPG Got a couple sheets of plywood today, so I could cover the back solid. Used brads instead of screws or nails because it doesn't split the wood and if you use enough of them it's just as tight as anything else.

    IMG_2162.JPG

    Potted the sprouts that have popped into solo cups, think I'm going coco/perlite 70/30 for this run just wanna play around and find my happy spot lol

    Currently figuring out which strips I wanna go with. I'm shooting for 200w at least.
     
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    Jellypowered

    Jellypowered Well-Known Member

    So, Got my holes for the fans cut.

    Going with two artic f12's. One on each end, blowing out.
    IMG_2170.JPG Below, you see the Squirrel Fan I robbed from something or other, to assist pulling air through.
    IMG_2175.JPG IMG_2176.JPG
    I have no idea how well this will work, But I'm gonna give it a shot lol. It moves more air than my mini fridge setup did, but we will see how well it works. The two 120mm fans were able to cool 250w of PLL bulbs in the mini fridge, so I'm assuming with the squirrel fan assisting the two 120mm i'll be able to cool up to 350w or so.


    LIGHTING:
    IMG_2165.PNG

    I've pulled the trigger, I've purchased some light strips (EB style, just way more densely packed with LED's)
    Each strip has a max wattage of 48w per strip.
    strips.png
    I ordered 10 @ 3500k, I plan on running them at 35w per strip. (I will dim the driver till my Kill-a-watt says 350w anyways)
    The blue represents my inside dimensions of my grow box, and the yellow bars represent the light strips. Should be amazing coverage.
     
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    ttystikk

    ttystikk Well-Known Member

    I find that exhaust fans near the top do better without another fan pushing air in- that just heats the air it's pushing.
     
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    Jellypowered

    Jellypowered Well-Known Member

    So, Got my strips in, Packed very well, look to be very nice build quality. Waiting on heatsinks then i'll build and wire my light.

    Did some painting tonight as well,
    IMG_2221.JPG
    For a door, I was thinking about mounting metal strips on the edges and sewing some magnets into a "Blackout" fabric curtain. You know, for "quick" release and ease of access? Stealth isn't a concern, I just want something easy to make and use. Also thought about mounting a couple of aluminum c channels and just sliding a piece of plywood in.

    Thoughts?

    And a shot of the sprouts
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    2x ssh
    3x bagseed (one hasn't broke surface but is almost there)
    1x white widow auto (smallest only the two small leaves)
     
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    xX_BHMC_Xx

    xX_BHMC_Xx Well-Known Member

    Yo Jelly, looking good man! Haven't been on here in a minute... the strips look like a good choice, do they need a heatsink though? How wide are they? I agree, ditch the intake fan.
     
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    Jellypowered

    Jellypowered Well-Known Member

    Will do when I get home.

    The strips are 30mm x 400mm, or about 1.25 x 16.25 inches.

    If ran at half power they only require aluminum sheeting or u-bar but I have some actual heatsinks on the way that will let me run them at 70% (35-40w per strip) with nothing but a circulation fan.
     
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    xX_BHMC_Xx

    xX_BHMC_Xx Well-Known Member

    Sounds good man! I think you might find managing temp/RH a little interesting. In my cab anyway, I have to pull a lot of air through in order to keep temps down, which sucks out all the humidity... if I'm vegging a couple teens in there the humi is running almost constantly to maintain about 60% at 40% ambient. Things get better as the plants get bigger though. The wood holds heat in much better than a tent. Blackout curtain sounds like a great idea, like a small version of what Loki Gro has. Just make sure to use Velcro instead of magnets for no light leaks.
     
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    Jellypowered

    Jellypowered Well-Known Member

    I may end up ordering a vortex fan and suitable speed controller, if the temps don't stay in check. I won't know until I get the light built and run it for a couple of days. For now i've removed the "squirrel fan" and the two 120mm fans seem to be doing much better. I tested with my vape and there's actually a draft going through the cab now. I need to get some flat black paint so I can coat the inside of the hump section (safeguard against mold and whatnot)
     
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    Jellypowered

    Jellypowered Well-Known Member

    IMG_2231.PNG
    So I ordered this little badass 4" fan. Decided to go ahead since I don't want to leave anything to chance and want to be able to run my strips hard lol
     
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    Jellypowered

    Jellypowered Well-Known Member

    Oh yeah, I found my humidifier the other day. Since this grow is taking place in a bathroom without a shower or tub (half bath if I recall that's what it's considered) it shouldn't be a problem to keep the Rh up in the room.

    For anyone curious, the fan was 89$ on amazon. A little pricy but it's good good reviews. Here's some info on it


    Manufacturer AC Infinity Inc.
    Product Name CLOUDLINE T4
    Product Model AI-CLT4
    UPC Code 854759004785
    Product and Mounting Dimensions - Fan Unit
    Total Dimensions 7.40 x 11.93 x 6.93 in. (18.8 x 30.3 x 17.6 cm)
    Mounting Hole-To-Hole Distance 3.15 X 2.36 in. (8.0 x 6.0 cm)
    Screw Hole Size Ø 0.197 in. (Ø 0.5 cm)
    Cord Length 144 in. (12 feet)
    Product and Mounting Dimensions - Controller
    Total Dimensions 5.20 x 3.11 x 1.10 in. (13.2 x 7.9 x 2.8 cm)
    Backside Enclosure Dimensions 4.41 x 2.68 in. (11.2 x 6.8 cm)
    Required Mounting Hole 4.48 x 2.76 in. (11.4 x 7.0 cm)
    Hole to Hole Distance 4.71 x 2.64 in. (12.0 x 6.7 cm)
    Screw Hole Size Ø 0.157 in. (Ø 0.4 cm)
    Display Size 2.25 x 1.25 in. (4.7 x 3.2 cm)
    Cord Length 72 in. (6 feet)
    Thermal Probe Length 96 in. (8 feet)
    Mounting Template
    Installation Manual PDF
    Product Performance and Technical Specs
    Total Airflow 152 CFM
    Total Noise 28 dBA
    Static Pressure 156 Pa
    Operating Voltage 12V DC
    Power 15 W
    Current 1.25 A
    Wall Adapter Input 100 to 240V AC
    Operating Humidity 35 to 85% RH
    Operating Temperature 14 to 230°F
    Ingress Protection IP 44
    Fan Bearings Dual Ball
    L10 Life Expectency 67,000 Hours
     
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    ttystikk

    ttystikk Well-Known Member

    If you need a humidifier in a growroom, something is wrong.

    They're called plants, lol
     
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    Jellypowered

    Jellypowered Well-Known Member

    There you are with that always blunt but well meaning stuff lol.

    You're right, but a little help while they are young doesn't hurt. :)
     
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