These three families want to control your future

MichiganMedGrower

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Not everyone is as 'enlightened' as you.

I don't hate rich people. I hate how they use their money to run our country by decree instead of mutual consent.

Poor people get a lot of help being held down by inequitable taxes, second rate schools, unfair subsidies, and other subtle and not so subtle tilts of the playing field. You spout a rather tired right wing line that the poor are at fault for their own financial predicaments, and without evidence, as usual.

Just like your assertions that it was always this way; it most certainly was not and even the fact that it's changing rapidly for the worse right before our eyes apparently escapes you.

I live in a poor area. What do you know about poor people?

I defend the people here all the time. But not for trying to better their economic situation.

People are generally lazy. And you are just feeding your own ego. Nothing is worse than ever. Just more awareness of it going on.

Otherwise you wouldn’t know about it like before.
 

MichiganMedGrower

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What's your thought on the quantum boards? are you just an hps guy or do you think certain leds are capable?
I am only an hps guy in the sense that I already own hps. I got my gear about 4 years ago. I have a cmh too now. I plan to use it for veg as my t-5’s ballasts seem to be wearing out and I want more light in veg.

I have said they seem to do the job all along. Just that full spectrum leds are not enough of an improvement in spectrum to make a quality difference and the power savings for me are not enough to offset my heating advantage.

I would have to want to buy them. I don’t want to yet. My system is working very well. And I yield very well and am happy with quality after the years of practice so until I need new lights......
 

twostrokenut

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your mind is too simple to comprehend complexities. stop trying.
well complexities are the problem. there is nothing complex about you volunteering your wage as income...the complexities come afterwards.

there is nothing complex about trading a vehicle evenly for another and the state deeming that a sale.

you fell for it in order to seem intelligent, which didn't work btw.
 

twostrokenut

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Funny, the DMV always charges for that registration based on the value of the car, not what it traded for
sales tax as well.....in Cali they may even charge you a commercial rate even though you are engaged in no commercial activity.

so you just notarize the bills of sale for $1 to each other, exchange your symbolic dollar notes and get some "not for hire" signs.

but yeah it's funny when the middle class is fucked to death by the dmv, hilarious.
 

see4

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well complexities are the problem. there is nothing complex about you volunteering your wage as income...the complexities come afterwards.

there is nothing complex about trading a vehicle evenly for another and the state deeming that a sale.

you fell for it in order to seem intelligent, which didn't work btw.
your logic stops at simple. we already know that. try harder.
 

see4

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I am only an hps guy in the sense that I already own hps. I got my gear about 4 years ago. I have a cmh too now. I plan to use it for veg as my t-5’s ballasts seem to be wearing out and I want more light in veg.

I have said they seem to do the job all along. Just that full spectrum leds are not enough of an improvement in spectrum to make a quality difference and the power savings for me are not enough to offset my heating advantage.

I would have to want to buy them. I don’t want to yet. My system is working very well. And I yield very well and am happy with quality after the years of practice so until I need new lights......
makes sense man. if it ain't broke, don't fix it.
 

Dr.Amber Trichome

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I'm in rare agreement with Buck that our votes DO count- with some caveats, like being sure to vote in all applicable elections, not just the general; making certain your vote indeed is allowed to count; making sure no vote count manipulation is going on, etc.

The Republican Party has dropped its mask of trying to represent religious and other conservatives and is more blatantly pandering to the above families in terms of tax and economic policy. So they're an enemy of the least wealthy 95% of Americans.

Where I disagree with Buck and his followers is that the Democratic Party is all that different; after all, they depend on the same donor class, passed Draconian crime bills, NAFTA, supported the TPP, and much more policy that again did nothing to benefit the economic situation of the least wealthy 90% of Americans.

That's why I'm involved with local Progressive Movement groups to effect change on economic issues to further a level playing field, as opposed to the 'give all the money to the rich' mess we've had since Reagan was in office.

Eliminating Citizens United is a big step in the right direction.

Taxing corporations, the wealthy and all income classes at higher rates than labor is another.

Universal health care is a human right, not a gift to the poor from the rich.

Free University to those who maintain good grades is an investment in our future as powerful as building roads.

Putting a stop to America's endless wars around the world would save money and improve our standing in the world, making us safer- in spite of what the war mongers would have us believe.

Political and corporate corruption in America must be stopped with a firm pivot to individual accountability.

This is a tip of the iceberg list.

I'll work with any group that will work for these goals and other specific issues of mutual agreement. Even establishment Democrats.
That sounds tike a positive step forward. I get a good vibe from all that. Shortly after I posted yesterday my husband lost his job. He called a couple places today that are looking for volunteers. Being new to the area and being a small community I think it’s a good direction for him to take for a while. Maybe gain some diffferent skills and help the elderly or become a social worker helping the less fortunate. Network and meet new people and hopefully a better more positive direction.cheers!
 

UncleBuck

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well complexities are the problem. there is nothing complex about you volunteering your wage as income...the complexities come afterwards.

there is nothing complex about trading a vehicle evenly for another and the state deeming that a sale.

you fell for it in order to seem intelligent, which didn't work btw.
i'm sorry you are too poor to afford to pay your taxes.

the IRS is gonna rape you.

why did you videotape another man's child sucking on a popsicle though?
 
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