This is getting good

BadDog40

Well-Known Member
Jim Bunning is doing all of us a favor. As this comment from the Number 2 Senate Republican, Jon Kyl of Arizona, makes clear, the Republicans are turning toward a form of reactionary radicalism that is well to the right not only of traditional conservatism, but also of post-Victorian concepts of government and--not to put too fine a point on it--of common decency as well:
Sen. Jon Kyl of Arizona, the Republican whip, argued that unemployment benefits dissuade people from job-hunting "because people are being paid even though they're not working." Unemployment insurance "doesn't create new jobs. In fact, if anything, continuing to pay people unemployment compensation is a disincentive for them to seek new work,"
The idea that those who have lost their jobs in this Wall Street/mortgage-scam recession are simply deadbeats, choosing to stay on unemployment rather than look for work, seems more appropriate to Scrooge's London than the 21st century. But Kyl has spoken his version of the truth, and we should be grateful for that: this is what the Republican Party is now all about. The America they--and the Tea Partiers--want would have no Medicare or Medicaid or Social Security (just ask the rising Republican star, Paul Ryan, who would privatize them all), no social safety net, no environmental or workplace regulations, no highway or infrastructure building. It would more Hume than Adam Smith, who would be considered a socialist by current Rush/Beck standards. This is what they are selling and, according to CNN, what 56% of the American people are currently buying--the idea that the federal government is a threat to their freedom. This is not conservative government, but the absence of government.
And so, again: Let's call the roll. Let's see how many allies Jim Bunning and Jon Kyl have. Let's find out their names and remember them. This is so important that we should stop all other business: Let them filibuster...and spend hours telling us exactly what else they would abolish.

 

fitch303

Well-Known Member
It's called negotiating, the man wanted 10 billion in spending cuts elsewhere to pay for the benefits. If more politicians did this our gov wouldn't be in soo much debt. The problem is most in this country are dense and shortsighted so they don't recognize a good thing when it's in front of them.

btw "reactionary radicalism" is like saying communist Nazi...polar opposites.
 

jeff f

New Member
Jim Bunning is doing all of us a favor. As this comment from the Number 2 Senate Republican, Jon Kyl of Arizona, makes clear, the Republicans are turning toward a form of reactionary radicalism that is well to the right not only of traditional conservatism, but also of post-Victorian concepts of government and--not to put too fine a point on it--of common decency as well:
Sen. Jon Kyl of Arizona, the Republican whip, argued that unemployment benefits dissuade people from job-hunting "because people are being paid even though they're not working." Unemployment insurance "doesn't create new jobs. In fact, if anything, continuing to pay people unemployment compensation is a disincentive for them to seek new work,"
The idea that those who have lost their jobs in this Wall Street/mortgage-scam recession are simply deadbeats, choosing to stay on unemployment rather than look for work, seems more appropriate to Scrooge's London than the 21st century. But Kyl has spoken his version of the truth, and we should be grateful for that: this is what the Republican Party is now all about. The America they--and the Tea Partiers--want would have no Medicare or Medicaid or Social Security (just ask the rising Republican star, Paul Ryan, who would privatize them all), no social safety net, no environmental or workplace regulations, no highway or infrastructure building. It would more Hume than Adam Smith, who would be considered a socialist by current Rush/Beck standards. This is what they are selling and, according to CNN, what 56% of the American people are currently buying--the idea that the federal government is a threat to their freedom. This is not conservative government, but the absence of government.
And so, again: Let's call the roll. Let's see how many allies Jim Bunning and Jon Kyl have. Let's find out their names and remember them. This is so important that we should stop all other business: Let them filibuster...and spend hours telling us exactly what else they would abolish.


so youre saying extending benefits motivates people to look for work?

using your logic maybe we should extend the benefits and double them. that will really get people out looking for jobs and the economy will start booming. right?

one of the reasons the economy is still lagging is because employers are scared shitless of the president and his lame brain ideas. if i hire someone will they cost me salary PLUS enormous medical benefits? how much are energy costs going to rise because of cap and trade? what will my tax burden look like when all this spending needs to be paid back?

they, the feds, have made it virtually impossible for a business man to do any long term planning. its tough enough to try and make a profit without throwing all these unknowns in the mix.

profit has become evil under these clowns. and as every third grader knows, without profit, we starve.

bunning was/is right on. the sooner we get rid of the socialists running the show, the better we will be....come on november!
 

Rob Roy

Well-Known Member
so youre saying extending benefits motivates people to look for work?

using your logic maybe we should extend the benefits and double them. that will really get people out looking for jobs and the economy will start booming. right?

one of the reasons the economy is still lagging is because employers are scared shitless of the president and his lame brain ideas. if i hire someone will they cost me salary PLUS enormous medical benefits? how much are energy costs going to rise because of cap and trade? what will my tax burden look like when all this spending needs to be paid back?

they, the feds, have made it virtually impossible for a business man to do any long term planning. its tough enough to try and make a profit without throwing all these unknowns in the mix.

profit has become evil under these clowns. and as every third grader knows, without profit, we starve.

bunning was/is right on. the sooner we get rid of the socialists running the show, the better we will be....come on november!
Agreed. Bunning had a great screwball when he pitched in the majors, but in this instance he isn't a screwball.
 
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