Tom's 400 watt Growing Odyssey

Drella

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i was just looking through my journal, and i remembered all of the great advice you gave me bro. i was in a bad place back then, i had just gotten laid off, and i have a family and own a house. i now have my job back, and am about to finish my first bloom. finally here to check out ur legacy, and damn tom, you got it going on. late scribe, but here for the long haul now. one question, on ur first page, is the 6" inline directly exhausting out the box i mean, does the air flow go, filter-through light- through inline- and air out the box. i just bought 2 6" carbon filters today, and am excited as hell. all of luck to you bro!
 

dmoose

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I recently mod'ed my DIY 5 gal Bucket Aero Cloner and decreased the pump size and number of sprayers. I went down to a 190 gph pump (Harbor Freight) and only 2 - 360 deg sprayers. Immediately after doing this, the roots developed total fish bone roots which I believe is better for absorbtion. I believe you will have better results by doing the same. The stems are getting so saturated with water, that using fine sprayers/misters are defeating the purpose. I would also lower the tubing so they get misted, but not saturated. You will still get excellent results as is because of the cycle timer which gives them enough time to dry a bit between sprayings, but as long as you are gonna do Aero, might as well fine tune it for max results. Not flaming, just spreading the Love of Growing!
 

cruzer101

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I recently mod'ed my DIY 5 gal Bucket Aero Cloner and decreased the pump size and number of sprayers. I went down to a 190 gph pump (Harbor Freight) and only 2 - 360 deg sprayers. Immediately after doing this, the roots developed total fish bone roots which I believe is better for absorbtion. I believe you will have better results by doing the same. The stems are getting so saturated with water, that using fine sprayers/misters are defeating the purpose. I would also lower the tubing so they get misted, but not saturated. You will still get excellent results as is because of the cycle timer which gives them enough time to dry a bit between sprayings, but as long as you are gonna do Aero, might as well fine tune it for max results. Not flaming, just spreading the Love of Growing!
Good Advise.
 

tom__420

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nice cloner i might have to be a copy - cat lol good work though
Thank you :-P

i was just looking through my journal, and i remembered all of the great advice you gave me bro. i was in a bad place back then, i had just gotten laid off, and i have a family and own a house. i now have my job back, and am about to finish my first bloom. finally here to check out ur legacy, and damn tom, you got it going on. late scribe, but here for the long haul now. one question, on ur first page, is the 6" inline directly exhausting out the box i mean, does the air flow go, filter-through light- through inline- and air out the box. i just bought 2 6" carbon filters today, and am excited as hell. all of luck to you bro!
Glad to have you on board bro
And yes here is how my air movement is:

Carbon filter>>>>Light>>>>>Exhaust Fan>>>> 6 inch hole out of box

I took some pics so you can check it out below :mrgreen:

I recently mod'ed my DIY 5 gal Bucket Aero Cloner and decreased the pump size and number of sprayers. I went down to a 190 gph pump (Harbor Freight) and only 2 - 360 deg sprayers. Immediately after doing this, the roots developed total fish bone roots which I believe is better for absorbtion. I believe you will have better results by doing the same. The stems are getting so saturated with water, that using fine sprayers/misters are defeating the purpose. I would also lower the tubing so they get misted, but not saturated. You will still get excellent results as is because of the cycle timer which gives them enough time to dry a bit between sprayings, but as long as you are gonna do Aero, might as well fine tune it for max results. Not flaming, just spreading the Love of Growing!
Thanks a lot for the great advice bro :clap:
I have been thinking that my pump may have been a little too large for the cloner
I will def be shortening the piece of pcv to lower the whole manifold
That should help to keep them in a better mist
Also, I switched out those green sprayers for the red EZ cloner sprayers

Good Advise.
:leaf:

okay, I'm watching. Did I miss anything?
Not too much, you got here just in time bro :weed:
Here are some pics of the plants at day 59 flowering
Not sure why some of the pics came out so weird....
Here is the camera that I use: http://store.kodak.com/store/ekconsus/en_US/pd/V1273_Digital_Camera/productID.145100100



12.0 Megapixels, 3X Optical Zoom

Any suggestions on the pictures? I could take some badass videos w/ it, it has HD video but I wouldn't want to have to use youtube.

























 

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Drella

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thanks for the filter configuration help! ive been blowing air through my light this whole time, i should see a difference now right? question, is there a reason why you ran that tin angle up to your filter, rather than just 6"flexible duct? im only asking because i have a 6"phresh carbon filter, and a bunch of 6" flex duct. do i need to invest in that tin angle too?

ive never seen buds like that bro, im seriously scared! they look like mini venus flytraps! i like the side flouro lighting. how long are they in bloom? those main stalks are fricken huge!
 

tom__420

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thanks for the filter configuration help! ive been blowing air through my light this whole time, i should see a difference now right? question, is there a reason why you ran that tin angle up to your filter, rather than just 6"flexible duct? im only asking because i have a 6"phresh carbon filter, and a bunch of 6" flex duct. do i need to invest in that tin angle too?

ive never seen buds like that bro, im seriously scared! they look like mini venus flytraps! i like the side flouro lighting. how long are they in bloom? those main stalks are fricken huge!
The reason I use the 6" duct elbow is so that the flexible duct won't get sucked in on itself. If you look at this picture....
.... you can see to the left of the reflector the ducting is getting constricted because of the exhaust fans strength. I didn't want that to happen on the other side so I picked one up

The last set of pics were taken at 8 weeks 3 days flowering :hump:

hey man can u send me some seeds or even clones of this gurl....?
good shit man keep it up..
sorry man I can't do that :cry:
 
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Drella

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thanks tom, you really rock for giving me that advice! 8 weeks eh? they looks unique, and amazing! i just harvested for the first time in my oaksterdam journal. stop by if you can, either way keep up the great work!
 

tom__420

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i ll second that. also what type on nute are you using . if you already posted and i didnt see i 'm sorry in advance
For the cloner I am using 40ml. per gallon of Clonex

For the flowering tote I am using Botanicare's Pure Blend Pro Bloom, Liquid Karma, and Cal-Mag+. 30ml. of PBP, 10ml. of Liquid Karma, and 7ml. of Cal-Mag+ per gallon
 

goofygolfer

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For the cloner I am using 40ml. per gallon of Clonex

For the flowering tote I am using Botanicare's Pure Blend Pro Bloom, Liquid Karma, and Cal-Mag+. 30ml. of PBP, 10ml. of Liquid Karma, and 7ml. of Cal-Mag+ per gallon
ok thanks . as all can see you are getting great results with that blend :hump:
 

Drella

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wow, i feel a lot better now i know you use botanicare pro line! so do i! some people think its too weak, but i never see any deficienties or burn!
 

FilthyFletch

Mr I Can Do That For Half
Looks like you got the more sativa pheno of the gret white I ve only had the indice heavy pheno yours has a much more sative leaf look. How come you used such small netpots? The little ones are good for clones but you should use at least the #" or bigger for the full grow. In a next grow with these type setups you ll get alot more bud if you clean alot of that undergrowth our right before going to flower it lets better air flow and more production to go to the tops which will increase in size and potency.Another thing to try is in that small an area and container stick to like 2 plants and your yield will go way up loooks like the root masses are pretty small on the great white plants but the White berry plant looks great just abit of what looks like ph issues on both grows as your getting the yellow and burnt ends with the brown serates..The clone buckets and clone machine I find a good 100-150 gph pump and abour 4 jest in a 3 gallon bucket and about 6 in a5 gallon works well. In some of my older posts I showed like 5 different clone and veg aero setup how to builds so those who want to build them just search my old posts from couple years ago for how to on those cloners. Keep on growing and if you have the time try some of the lollipopping, less plants and bigger net pots and I guarantee you ll get much better results in such a tight place..Good grows
 

Tagh

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Looking good, I got GWS on the way actually. I picked up the original from MrNice, Shark Shock now.
You should do a smoke report when dried/cured.
Glad I got a fresh grow to compare to :D
 
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