Too hot. This has been my issue not over watering

so I tossed 4 plants out because they were over watered etc.. well so I thought. I popped 4 extra seeds when I planted the first 4 ( which I cut down). These 4 have limped into flowering and I have had the same issue the whole grow again, overwatering... so I thought. I have been testing run off constantly and they are always 850-900ppm and I have not added anything to them. Can FFOF be that hot? I mean they are almost 2 months in from seed. 1 plant is double the size (which I topped) of the smaller ones, nitro toxcitity all over the place on it including the 3 small plants. I have a gorilla glue photo below the canopy which is working on its second set of leaves. I do not want to screw up the gorilla glue, once these 4 trashy autos are done. The tall plant is moving at a snails pace as it is 2 weeks behind the others. I am going to let them all finish but I am amazed at the run off ppm’s while adding nothing to the water. Tap Water ppm is 145. Ohhhh and the fox tailing is incredible, there is a lot of it.

What's ur temps, ppms going in, pH. How big are the plants prior to going into those large pots?

DustBomb said:

What's ur temps, ppms going in, pH. How big are the plants prior to going into those large pots?

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Ppms going in are just tap water ppms 145. Ph is 6.4 on the way out 6.2-6.5 on the way in. Plants are transplanted after a node or two into the 3 gallon smart pots. However, I have since changed my ways. With this gorilla glue photo I am going to get the solo cup filled with roots first before throwing into a 3 gallon or 5 gallon, haven’t decided yet. Plans for the gorilla glue is 1 plant vegged to make a large canopy (I have a small tent) than scrog net. Temps are 77-82 lights on 74 lights off. Lighting is a mixture of 150w hps and true 205w LED COB optic 2.

I watered the big one today and ppm’s out was 867. That’s totally insane to be honest and yes my PPM meter works just fine it’s not broken I checked that as I have 3 and they all read similar readings give or take a few ppm.

Could it be possible they were overwatered to the point that they literally didn’t uptake
all if any Nutes amended in the soil the entire grow up until now? They are drinking a lot more water now as expected in flowering. I can tell trich production is down significantly as well. Usually they have a plenty at this point and as of now they don’t have much frostiness, which isn’t surprising since they are in such horrible condition.

Decided to grow 3 more autos while I have to wait while the gg veg’s for 2 months or so. Def going to try some new things with these. For starters lots and lots of perlite and going to wait until they have a good amount of roots before transferring from solo cup.

jtrizzy said:

Decided to grow 3 more autos while I have to wait while the gg veg’s for 2 months or so. Def going to try some new things with these. For starters lots and lots of perlite and going to wait until they have a good amount of roots before transferring from solo cup.

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Damn man get some dang coco for this grow XD

MATTYMATT726 said:

Damn man get some dang coco for this grow XD

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Coco just seems so much more complicated, having to add Nutes every feeding. Just so many errors can be made with coco. I need to be comfortable with soil first.

Coco does exactly this, you can water with low ppm, but it will very quickly accumulate if you don't mitigate it.
I have a dip method of watering that I test the water coming out of the coco, as it is lifted from the dip, to chek ppm
if it comes out in an acceptable range I dip the next plant, measuring after, rinse and repeat.
Once the water remaining gets so hot that even topping up before dipping again won't bring it back in line. I dump the dip and start a new one... (normally after every 3rd plant).
You can also use say 50 or 70% of your normal dosage dip ppm, to bring your plants down from being so oversalted.

jtrizzy said:

Coco just seems so much more complicated, having to add Nutes every feeding. Just so many errors can be made with coco. I need to be comfortable with soil first.

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To each their own but you are wrong. Coco is way easier than soil. Almost zero way to over water, doesn't attract peats like soil and can be fed exactly what you want to give and how often. The o ly downside is if you deem it too much trouble to spend 2 minites mixing nutes. So sad to see tou keep having issues in soil and missing out on what coco has to offer. Maybe one day though.

MATTYMATT726 said:

To each their own but you are wrong. Coco is way easier than soil. Almost zero way to over water, doesn't attract peats like soil and can be fed exactly what you want to give and how often. The o ly downside is if you deem it too much trouble to spend 2 minites mixing nutes. So sad to see tou keep having issues in soil and missing out on what coco has to offer. Maybe one day though.

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I hear you, I spend more than 2 minutes now mixing nutes (when I do need do). Perhaps I need to look at that closer. Since I already started my gorilla glue in soil (solo cup) can i transfer to coco when I transplant to bigger pot? or will that cause issues? One thing I am confused on is, do I need to add nutes to freshly germinated seed in a solo cup of coco? or do I wait? if so how long do I wait before adding very a small amount of veg nutes.

I got rid of two plants. The really fucked up small one and the tall one. Tall one is just way too far behind and it is was pretty much all yellow tips all curled, she was all fucked up this morning. Only two left out of 8, this sux. I will be shocked if the final 2 make it another week. All this time wasted, it is so discouraging. Bleh. Worst part is, I am still on the first stage of "hey whats wrong with my plants?" lol. I have no fucking clue, is the soil too hot, am I over watering, is it nitro tox, is it nitro deficiency, is it mag deficiency, is it low iron, is it just locked out from being over watered if I did over water lol. Step right up and spin the wheel of uncertainty!. Once a fuck up appears it is game over, there is no correcting anything and I firmly believe that. I used to watch grow boss on you tube and he always said "if you can make it to the end and you don't fuck up your shit". I always thought, how hard can growing a plant possibly be, it's a plant. Boy was I fucking naive. This is quite possibly the hardest thing I have ever done. The fact that I can barely get a plant to stay alive past 2 months is what is pushing me to keep going. Why? I dunno I just would like the feeling of having at least 1 grow where nothing goes wrong. fml

You can transplant to coco but very carefuly with autos and usually 10-14 days i see is best. Once i see first set of leaves(not colydoton) i mfeed with nutes at 1/4 of a full dose.

jtrizzy said:

I hear you, I spend more than 2 minutes now mixing nutes (when I do need do). Perhaps I need to look at that closer. Since I already started my gorilla glue in soil (solo cup) can i transfer to coco when I transplant to bigger pot? or will that cause issues? One thing I am confused on is, do I need to add nutes to freshly germinated seed in a solo cup of coco? or do I wait? if so how long do I wait before adding very a small amount of veg nutes.

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I wouldn't add any nutes until you start to see yellowing in the colydotons, and start like matty said with 1/4 strength nutes. The plant can sustain itself for a majority of the first part of its life cycle.