Too many Democrats running for office this year in CA?

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Fogdog, Mar 9, 2018.

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    Fogdog

    Fogdog Well-Known Member

    California has an open "top two" primary system for statewide elections including U.S. Senate and Congress, state Senate and Assembly, governor, attorney general, secretary of state, etc. -- every eligible candidate from every party is lumped together in one big political crock pot

    The Democratic party has reams of new candidates entering their names at all levels. Good, right?

    Except it might come back to bite them.

    Should Democrats talk about thinning the ticket in districts with a large ticket of Democrats in order to avoid Republicans capturing both spots? How would they do that? Should the Democratic Party leadership in California intervene?

    CALIFORNIA

    Democrats sweat nightmare scenario in California
    In key House races, Republican candidates might be the only names on the ballot in November.
    https://www.politico.com/story/2018/01/19/california-democrats-fear-nightmare-midterms-2018-346948

    Democrats who cheered the retirement announcements of Reps. Darrell Issa and Ed Royce last week are sobering up to a new fear: A potential nightmare scenario in which no Democratic candidate ends up on the November ballot in either seat, dealing a blow to the party’s efforts to retake the House.

    The problem is California’s unusual, top-two primary system, where the top two vote-getters regardless of party affiliation advance to the November general election.
     
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    ttystikk

    ttystikk Well-Known Member

    Let's hope so.

    When both the Jokers and the Clowns sit down in the center ring and play their games out in the open for all to see, it's time to bring the whole tent down on them.

    The Democrats- and certainly not Mrs Pelosi- aren't going to save us, they're here for the same dollars from the donor class as the Republicans.

    The only way to send them a message is to discredit them so thoroughly they can't attract donor cash anymore because they're a bad electoral investment. The only way to do that is to STOP VOTING FOR THEM.
     
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    trippnface

    trippnface Well-Known Member

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    ttystikk

    ttystikk Well-Known Member

    There are about to be a lot more progressives like her. It will take time, but this is happening.
     
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    UncleBuck

    UncleBuck Well-Known Member

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    Fogdog

    Fogdog Well-Known Member

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    rollitup

    rollitup Forum Admin Staff Member


    You know, it's someone who is 25 years old!

    Like trippface. :lol:



    IOW you must be an adult for less than 5 years.


    :mrgreen:
     
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    ttystikk

    ttystikk Well-Known Member

    Someone who believes that capital and the markets must proceed unimpeded.

    ne·o-lib·er·al·ism
    ˌnēōˈlib(ə)r(ə)liz(ə)m/
    noun
    noun: neoliberalism
    1. a modified form of liberalism tending to favor free-market capitalism.
      "social and political issues surrounding neo-liberalism"
     
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    abandonconflict

    abandonconflict Well-Known Member

    That definition sounds sounds like it was written by someone "socially liberal but fiscally conservative" but ok...
     
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    ttystikk

    ttystikk Well-Known Member

    Google it yourself then.

    I'm not a neoliberal.
     
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    Fogdog

    Fogdog Well-Known Member

    OK

    Economic liberalism. Those are Republican ideals.
     
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    Fogdog

    Fogdog Well-Known Member

    Isn't it just another way of saying libertarian?
     
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    ttystikk

    ttystikk Well-Known Member

    I'm not a neoliberal. You are more than happy to give neoliberal Democrats a free pass for it.

    That makes you a neoliberal.

    Clown.

    You're better than this. You've been spending too much time hanging around the wrong people.
     
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    Fogdog

    Fogdog Well-Known Member

    neoliberal isn't liberal in the US Democratic party sense. Neoliberal is fiscal liberal as in free market and let the money dictate. It's opposite of social programs like medicare.
     
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    ttystikk

    ttystikk Well-Known Member

    Google has a nice definition.
     
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    Fogdog

    Fogdog Well-Known Member

    Wikipedia is the one I went to. It gave the history and a deeper understanding of the term.

    It's basically the US version of libertarian philosophy. Concepts like medicare, medicaid, universal healthcare, all of which are liberal planks Democratic Party platform are anathema to neoliberals. You trigger on the word liberal which causes to you miss the meaning of neoliberal.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoliberalism

    Neoliberalism or neo-liberalism[1] refers primarily to the 20th-century resurgence of 19th-century ideas associated with laissez-faireeconomic liberalism.[2]:7 Those ideas include economic liberalization policies such as privatization, austerity, deregulation, free trade[3] and reductions in government spending in order to increase the role of the private sector in the economy and society.[11] These market-based ideas and the policies they inspired constitute a paradigm shift away from the post-war Keynesian consensus which lasted from 1945 to 1980


    In neoliberalism, "liberal" refers to economic liberalism, not social liberalism. You, of course, are confused by your cynicism and fail to get past your bias about the Democratic Party and so you think neoliberalism means Democrats because liberal. Quite childish, actually. Neoliberalism is Republican and libertarian.
     
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    trippnface

    trippnface Well-Known Member


    Mostly baby boomers who think they are on the Left.

    Obama, Biden, Hillary, Pelosi, Brown.

    If you supported Clinton over Sanders, you are a Neoliberal.

    Neoliberals are too scared or too moderate to honestly support Liberalism, so they tow the line until they are positive that the public has " shifted" to a degree where their view will be shared and agreed.
     

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    Fogdog

    Fogdog Well-Known Member

    How is it possible that you are always wrong? I mean, sometimes you'd make a typo or something that would accidentally put you in the right but nope, ever damn time. You get it wrong.

    So, here is what a neoliberal really is:

    Unsurprisingly, it's the post directly above yours where you once again have it completely wrong. You trigger on the word liberal because HILLLLLLAAARY:dunce: but neoliberals are actually conservatives.
     
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    trippnface

    trippnface Well-Known Member


    yes, I saw your textbook definiton of what a Neoliberal is.

    I gave you real life examples of what a Neoliberal is!
     
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    trippnface

    trippnface Well-Known Member

    Once again for you.

     

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