Topdawg Genetics

TimeToBurn

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What value is this as a qualifier, it's a lotto ticket.

Selection means what? That they used the male to make seeds and then tested through how many progeny? How does this guarantee a better product than the guy who got lucky with 1 seed?

@Vato_504 OGKB2.0 won IC cup 2015 so it's probably dank I've not held it tho. What I'm getting at though is that a male that Tek found has produced dank, counter to what has been suggested only spitting males and herms.
And just like the lottery, its really hard to hit the jackpot! You really think he hit a winner with 1 seed? Sounds to me like he got 2 of 6 numbers and won 50 bucks. I mean, a couple of people found a nice "keeper" plant after sorting through herms and tons of males. In fact all testers found herms and they just downplay it like its excusable or common! A herm that wouldn't bother me would happen 1 in 5000 seeds, not multiple people getting herms from 10 packs. And how good are these testers at selecting a "keeper" if they aren't bothered by multiple herms? If you can read between the lines, the Tek gear is garbage.
 
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CannaBruh

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@TimeToBurn what all of the Tek gear did you run? I have two keepers of 3 seeds, so apologies if what you say is a bit dissonant from my experiences, but your last statement is complete bullshit.


Ask your lottery hypothetical to chemdog or mrsoul

Sure with more numbers you have more chances to play, but not better odds. 1 seed is all it takes

Starting to sound like some jealousy, go find a male and start a seed company, if you're making dank I'll buy a pack and if it produces nice plants I'll buy more on your second drop.
 

TimeToBurn

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@TimeToBurn what all of the Tek gear did you run? I have two keepers of 3 seeds, so apologies if what you say is a bit dissonant from my experiences, but your last statement is complete bullshit.
2 keepers from 3 seeds? Sounds like you have high standards. I see why you think he found a winning male from 1 seed.

Have you run 3 seeds total or have more experience with his gear?
 

CannaBruh

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Let's apply your logic for one minute to the chem91...... 1 keeper from 1 seed, get out, no way!

I have vast experience with clone only strains, having ran a stable of highly sought after clone only I have a reference of what is fire and what is not, can you qualify your earlier statement regarding Tek's gear?
 

TimeToBurn

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Let's apply your logic for one minute to the chem91...... 1 keeper from 1 seed, get out, no way!

I have vast experience with clone only strains, having ran a stable of highly sought after clone only I have a reference of what is fire and what is not, can you qualify your earlier statement regarding Tek's gear?
How many times you gonna edit and keep adding to your post? lol I'm not a history buff but wasn't chem91 a couple of seeds from a bag of fire weed? So they were likely S1's of known fire weed. So very easy to get fire weed from 1 seed.

And I'm not sure how you want me to qualify my statement of the gear being garbage more than what's already been said. Its been proven to have high herm and male rates. His biggest testers and people who have grown the most packs have all had issues. All the data is out there.
 

CannaBruh

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How many times you gonna edit and keep adding to your post? lol I'm not a history buff but wasn't chem91 a couple of seeds from a bag of fire weed? So they were likely S1's of known fire weed. So very easy to get fire weed from 1 seed.
There was a male, try again

and no.. simply being an S1 does not equate or mandate in any way that the S1 would be of quality or on par with chem91

And I'm not sure how you want me to qualify my statement of the gear being garbage more than what's already been said. Its been proven to have high herm and male rates. His biggest testers and people who have grown the most packs have all had issues. All the data is out there.
Easy, have you yourself @TimeToBurn grown any Tek gear to qualify any of what you have said?

Not wanting to bust your balls but I have grown dude's gear (Tek) and my experience is not what you are offering, but the perception I get is that you are bringing this wit malice, so I have to wonder what is the driver. So let's get back to the beginning and qualify ourselves before we continue discussing. Have you ran anything from Tek?
 

TimeToBurn

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There was a male, try again

and no.. simply being an S1 does not equate or mandate in any way that the S1 would be of quality or on par with chem91


Easy, have you yourself @TimeToBurn grown any Tek gear to qualify any of what you have said?

Not wanting to bust your balls but I have grown dude's gear (Tek) and my experience is not what you are offering, but the perception I get is that you are bringing this wit malice, so I have to wonder what is the driver. So let's get back to the beginning and qualify ourselves before we continue discussing. Have you ran anything from Tek?
No haven't grown any. Why do I have to grow it to see everyone's results? I have not tried to present any new data that I am not backing up and have repeated the results of all his testers and other users. Why do you keep asking me to qualify that? Its been proven already, you need to learn to interpret the data that's out there instead of trying to defend junk seeds cause you bought a pack.

And no malice, don't know the dude. All my comments are 100% unbiased and based on the data he and his testers have supplied. This is a weed discussion forum and I have to "qualify" myself before commenting lol. You make me laugh how blind you are. Keep your eye on the ball.
 

TimeToBurn

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So which is it, could or could not fire be found from 1 seed?
Stop trying to twist shit and putting all situations in 1 box. Yes technically fire can be found from 1 seed. Like said earlier, its like hitting the lottery. And finding fire in 1 seed from random crosses/chucks is way different than finding fire from a selfed seed of known fire weed.
 

Vato_504

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Let's apply your logic for one minute to the chem91...... 1 keeper from 1 seed, get out, no way!

I have vast experience with clone only strains, having ran a stable of highly sought after clone only I have a reference of what is fire and what is not, can you qualify your earlier statement regarding Tek's gear?
Stop trying to twist shit and putting all situations in 1 box. Yes technically fire can be found from 1 seed. Like said earlier, its like hitting the lottery. And finding fire in 1 seed from random crosses/chucks is way different than finding fire from a selfed seed of known fire weed.
I highly doubt he struck gold with that male. If you call getting 30 outta 30 males with multiple strains good and a fire male I'll pass. Maybe you can get lucky but I'm not buying seeds to get lucky.
 

TimeToBurn

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@TimeToBurn what all of the Tek gear did you run? I have two keepers of 3 seeds, so apologies if what you say is a bit dissonant from my experiences, but your last statement is complete bullshit.


Ask your lottery hypothetical to chemdog or mrsoul

Sure with more numbers you have more chances to play, but not better odds. 1 seed is all it takes

Starting to sound like some jealousy, go find a male and start a seed company, if you're making dank I'll buy a pack and if it produces nice plants I'll buy more on your second drop.
LOL you keep editing and adding! Definitely no jealousy, as I said, I don't know the dude and I don't make seeds or am trying to be a seed company.
 

CannaBruh

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To reiterate, @TimeToBurn, you offer advice to others about gear you have not run.

You tell others (myself) that I make you laugh because my experience is somehow less than your speculation.

No, technically ALL fire is found from 1 seed, every fucking plant... 1 seed.
Chem91 was not from S1, so again you are commenting where you don't have valid information, THAT is why we need to qualify those who offer things to say.

You're shitting on some dude's project, with no first hand knowledge.

I'll edit as I see fit, note that I append, not so much an edit ;)
 

CannaBruh

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I highly doubt he struck gold with that male. If you call getting 30 outta 30 males with multiple strains good and a fire male I'll pass. Maybe you can get lucky but I'm not buying seeds to get lucky.
@Vato_504 but how many males from how many seeds did you find?

I have a hellbreath & antifreeze that are great, I'll share a cut if you guys feel froggy


**appended**
or some StarDawg IX bananas or is that too hermy.. ;) you're welcome to 'em, those bananas were expensive
 

TimeToBurn

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To reiterate, @TimeToBurn, you offer advice to others about gear you have not run.

You tell others (myself) that I make you laugh because my experience is somehow less than your speculation.

No, technically ALL fire is found from 1 seed, every fucking plant... 1 seed.
Chem91 was not from S1, so again you are commenting where you don't have valid information, THAT is why we need to qualify those who offer things to say.

You're shitting on some dude's project, with no first hand knowledge.

I'll edit as I see fit, note that I append, not so much an edit ;)
I did not offer any advice, simply gave my opinion in a discussion forum where EVERYONE gives there opinion.

I said you make me laugh, didn't say anything about it being your lack of experience. Learn to read and understand what you read. That would help you a lot in this whole situation.

My 2nd comments about fire from 1 seed and S1's had nothing to do with Chem91. Again learn to read and understand what the words say.

This isn't some dudes project, he's charging money and its a business. And his failure rate (high herms) is higher than his competitors.

Append all you want :)
 

Vato_504

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Goose-egg


Tek's gear stems from TopDawg's 3chems (lottery) find

In fact all the "documentation" leading up to Prof's project is in this thread.
I see you're one of those chem heads so you're biased. All chem strains not good. JJ shit is watered down with all the different male changes. They running outta ideas with that chem shit. You know they running outta ideas when they wanna breed with Rez shit. So good luck with that tek shit fam.
 

CannaBruh

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S1 was directly relating to my offering analogy to the chem91 find...

You offered an opinion that was not asked for and with no experience.. "how did you like driving that car?" ... "well gee I have never driven it but I think it sure is swell" zero value added

Again, you're offering information (high herms) with zero substance, no experience and completely based on hearsay

any comments on the StarDawg IX bananas? Those seeds were a lot more expensive than the Tek gear.
 

CannaBruh

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I see you're one of those chem heads so you're biased. All chem strains not good. JJ shit is watered down with all the different male changes. They running outta ideas with that chem shit. You know they running outta ideas when they wanna breed with Rez shit. So good luck with that tek shit fam.
I'm not going to disagree with you, but I will say you might want to revisit your assessment of myself.

Run some Tek gear, THEN talk shit, until then you aren't busting grapes and I will continue to bust balls of those who yap without action.
 

Vato_504

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I'm not going to disagree with you, but I will say you might want to revisit your assessment of myself.

Run some Tek gear, THEN talk shit, until then you aren't busting grapes and I will continue to bust balls of those who yap without action.
It's like I ran it when my potna ran it and it Hermed on him and another guy I know got 30 males. So why would I want to run it? I'm happy for you if you're cool with being a paid tester. I just gave 3 gorillas away. I'll either trade the rest or sell that shit.
 
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