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Transplant shock from root damage, thoughts on using willow water to help recovery?

Discussion in 'Marijuana Plant Problems' started by 420XX, Jan 11, 2018 at 9:58 PM.

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    420XX

    420XX Member

    Hey there, I've got a sprout ~1 month since sprouting, and I'd caused her (hopefully "her") some stress when moving to a larger pot, and it looks like she suffered from transplant shock :oops:. Half of one of her leaves wilted and crumbled away, but I can tell she's bouncing back :hump:.

    I'll attach a picture of her from right after transplant, 2 hours later, and a picture of her damaged leaf (2 days after the transplant)[today].

    The point of this post however; is to see what your thoughts are toward me using willow water to help my plant recover. I feel like she's perfectly fine without it, although I figure it could definitely help since the IBA in willow water is a rooting hormone, and Salicylic Acid has antibacterial properties. My thought is that adding willow water would help my plants roots heal quicker than just using simple water, and could possibly make them (roots) come in stronger than if treated without adding any rooting agents.

    - Roughly 1 month old Holy Grail Kush sprout
    - I know I damaged the roots when trying to deal with it being somewhat rootbound 20180109_120919.jpg 20180109_151234.jpg 20180109_151234.jpg 20180111_195943.jpg
    - Showing pics for reference. LEDs are on, but main point of this post is to ask for thoughts on the willow water - not showing the pics for a diagnosis.
    - Still unsure if it's gonna be a female, hoping the stress doesn't affect that chance.

    Anyway I'd like to hear your thoughts or tips. Thanks for any advice. :weed:
     
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    MrGhettoGrower

    MrGhettoGrower Well-Known Member

    I'm not hip to willow water tap water works for me :eyesmoke:
    What dirt and nutrients you're using would be the
    first thing I'd question.
     
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    420XX

    420XX Member

    I've got Fox Farm Ocean Forest soil, and their 3- pack line of nutes - though I was planning on waiting a few weeks before using the nutes because I heard the FFOF is already nutrient rich.
     
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    420XX

    420XX Member

     
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    Roger A. Shrubber

    Roger A. Shrubber Well-Known Member

    people have used willow water for centuries to help with cloning, not sure it'll help, but i don't see how it can hurt, either.
    also, leds make plants transpire more than florescents or h.i.d. lighting, you may want to put it under a t5 or a couple of cfls for a week or so to let the roots catch up to the "canopy"
     
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    Ablaze

    Ablaze Well-Known Member

    Willow water is up to you. But your plant will heal on it's own. As long as you didn't kill it, then it will rebound pretty quickly. I'm not sure how so much root damage happened from re-potting. But live and learn I guess. The leaf damage could be from badly hurting the roots during transfer. I've also had some with that kind of damage from FFOF. I know you're not looking for a diagnosis, but the reason I bring that up is in hopes you keep watching it to see if the damage continue.

    FFOF is like coffee to plants. Adults can't get enough of it, but it's not really for children.

    Edit: Oh, and don't over think it. You're doing fine.
     
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    420XX

    420XX Member

    Right on, I'm keeping a close eye on her to make sure she is in fact not getting worse. I'll keep that metaphor for FFOF in mind next time I handle a youngin' I've seen a lot of people say they prefer to treat their sprouts to FFHF, then using FFOF later on, I suppose that may be why..
    Thanks!
     
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    vostok

    vostok Well-Known Member

    [​IMG]
    Learn to grow before 'playing' IMO

    fill that pot correctly to within half an inch of the rim, include 20% perlite

    ..or suffer the 'Death Valley Effect'

    remove that green stick..?its in the roots

    include a small fan to heal the stomata a 4 inch pc type is good

    as for you OTT willow water?

    crush a quarter tab of aspirin dissolve in water 1 pint and apply 1x per day until it recovers

    as the guys hint thats no transplant shock

    good luck
     
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    Terps

    Terps Well-Known Member

    Do not worry While I am a bit different i like hydro i just transplanted 6 plants that went thru shock just give it time.
     
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    MrGhettoGrower

    MrGhettoGrower Well-Known Member

    I'm thinking you put it into the ffof too soon and it fried the roots. I used to use the ffof but then you have to start the plants in something else till they're big enough so the ffof won't kill them at first it's really hot like with a lot of nutrients in it then the second watering it'll still have some nutes in it but if you feed it a full dose then you burn the plants so I quit using it and use the sunshine mix 4 with 1/3 growstones with my favorite nutes....
     
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    420XX

    420XX Member

    I can refill the pot better, I'm still new to the proper methods of doing things (apparently). I used the stick to help the plant stand because she was drooping into the soil after the transplant, and made sure not to let it go near the roots - though I forgot to remove it afterwards... going to take care of that.
    I have a small fan gently breezing her too. The point of the willow water isn't for it's salicylic properties, but the rooting hormone IBA; not found in aspirin - I get what you mean about the crushed aspirin, but I'm interested in the IBA, not curing its headache. Thanks for the advice!
     
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    420XX

    420XX Member

    I never knew, I don't know much about the varying effects of the different lighting types available tbh. I think I have some CFLs however... I'll look into that, thanks
     
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    vostok

    vostok Well-Known Member

    I'm itching to pot up my 10? autos

    the word is .. not to pot up autos?''

    but this time around I had some spares and inserted a few to their 10 liter (2.5usg) home pot

    Compared to the 4 inch transfer-ables to the germs in their home pot

    theirs no comparison

    the 4 inchers are weeks ahead as a guess 4-5 weeks ahead

    as they all fit on a heating pad at 22c/74F?

    and get more controllable light

    the messing I can do in a 4 inch pot is miles ahead of the home pot

    which is larger and more difficult to mess with

    as I say I'm itching to pot them up

    but I'll wait to days end

    so they recover over night

    I'll give them a small spray with salic! just in case

    good luck!
     
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    Ablaze

    Ablaze Well-Known Member

    I think people say not to do that because things can happen when you transplant. Of course, if they're hurt they will spend some of their time and energy repairing themselves. And with autos, time is already not on your side. If they need it, do it!
     
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    Sapphyre

    Sapphyre Member

    Fox Farms potting soil is much more gentle for the young ones...
    And- they brought me hypoaspis mites...which FREAKED ME OUT ...until I figured out what was crawling in my dirt!! Lmao
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    I don't think I have fungus gnats or root aphids- but I do like that these little dudes would be happy to help if they show up! Hehe

    Transplanting as soon as the roots hits the bottom of the pot might feel a little early/ but man those plants will be well ahead of the ones that you wait even a few more days on!

    You might also look into vitamin b (kelp based) and myco to help east the transition :)

    Happy hurrying up to wait for them to grow!! ;)
     
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    SchmoeJoe

    SchmoeJoe Well-Known Member

    Healing stomata? Never heard of that one. Watering daily (aspirin/1liter) will drown the roots.
     
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    SchmoeJoe

    SchmoeJoe Well-Known Member

    How well did you water it in? The soil on top looks like it wasn't watered at all.
     
    Last edited: Jan 13, 2018 at 2:18 AM
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    Cold$moke

    Cold$moke Well-Known Member

    Was gona say looks dry as fuck lol
     
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    SchmoeJoe

    SchmoeJoe Well-Known Member

    The two usual rooting hormones do two different things. One causes,cells to convert into undifferentiated cells to help speed up the conversion into cell roots and the other increases the rate of growth of new cells to speed up root growth. I forget which is the affect of iba but neither will help with transplant shock so I don't see willow water being helpful. You want something like superthrive or a b1 product.
     
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    SchmoeJoe

    SchmoeJoe Well-Known Member

    That would definitely explain the wilting and could even be a part the crispy leaf issue.
     
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